This Team is a Complete Joke

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    This Team is a Complete Joke

    After reading the Yahoo article, I think we can all come to the same conclusion.
    This team is a complete joke with pampered overpaid ballplayers.

    Lester should have been left in for those 11 runs. The bullpen was taxed. Maybe the responsibility falls on the players and a supposed ace who had a stretch of three straight starts of not making it through the 5th inning.

    Find another "Supposed 1 or 2" starter in baseball who had a streak of three games where they didn't make it out of the 5th inning.

    Pampered babies.

     
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    Once again another fan who doesn't understand baseball. You don't leave a SP in to get hammered when they don't have their stuff. Lester did not have his stuff and should have not been left in. The only managers who pull those stunts are guys like BV, who has systematically not had the backs of his players, not shown much faith in them, and also doesn't know when to shut his trap to the media.
     
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    If that was Franklin Morales out there, allowing 11 runs, you think that would have been good for his ego?
     
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    pins, you don't do that to pitchers. It's not about all-stars. Wakefield voluntarily did that back in the day. It's not something you do as a manager. You pull the guy whether it's a rookie or an All-Star. It's called protecting your players.
     
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    The players are pampered because they complained that the manager let a game get out of hand before making a change?  They're pampered because they aren't happy that  Bobby V is falling asleep in the dugout?

    Lucchino hired 2 managers - Grady Little and Bobby V.  Speaks volumes about Lucchino.

    And Bobby V's knowledge of the Japanese Language has worked wonders with Dice K.

     
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    Little is 25x better than BV, Little stuck with a consistent lineup, had the players backs, frequently was hailed as a great leader by the players. Don't in a million years lump him in with Valentine. Valentine is as joebridey said--maybe the worst manager in MLB right now.
     
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    Little made the ultimate bad no-move at the wrong time, costing the team probably the WS. That's why he was fired. And that he didn't always follow the team Bill James charts. I felt he was still a very good manager.
     
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    In Response to Re: This Team is a Complete Joke:
    [QUOTE]Once again another fan who doesn't understand baseball. You don't leave a SP in to get hammered when they don't have their stuff. Lester did not have his stuff and should have not been left in. The only managers who pull those stunts are guys like BV, who has systematically not had the backs of his players, not shown much faith in them, and also doesn't know when to shut his trap to the media.
    Posted by dannycater[/QUOTE]

    you are wrong, Lester needed to pitch some innings that day to hopefully figure it out and you can't go to the pen in the first 2 innings there, Lester needs to suck it up there.
     
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    valentine didn't fall asleep in the dugout, keep defending the players tho. bunch of babies need to grow up, shut up and earn their paycheck
     
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    xdrive, so when the score turns 20-4 and he's got into the 6th inning, would you then be satisfied? Also, how bout your teammates, you like that they are down 16 runs because you want Lester to "hopefully figure it out." Boy, you don't know baseball.
     
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    WE ARE NOW THE 1980'S YANKEES - THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE LEAGUE....UNBELIEVABLE..........
     
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    now? Try it's been that way since last September
     
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    Different conclusion.....

    BV is what we expected or at east I did.

    He started lsing this team in ST. We read what we read in the article. However we do not know what else BV has done in the clubhouse.
    If Agon is UPSET then I could believe that BV is the guy I heard John Kruk describe.
    He was a guy who pissed of players accidently or on purpose for his own reasons.

    I do know this players are different now than when he last managed. Players and even regular people today have no issue with stating their displeasure with management.
     
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    BV didn't have as much media scrutiny back when he was managing the Mets, the worst he would get is ESPN Sportscenter. Twitter, facebook, and the 9 million blogs have made it very easy for everyone to be critics and pro athletes to beetch openly to whoever they want and it's easy to dissect the many faults of BV.
     
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    In Response to Re: This Team is a Complete Joke:
    [QUOTE]Once again another fan who doesn't understand baseball. You don't leave a SP in to get hammered when they don't have their stuff. Lester did not have his stuff and should have not been left in. The only managers who pull those stunts are guys like BV, who has systematically not had the backs of his players, not shown much faith in them, and also doesn't know when to shut his trap to the media.
    Posted by dannycater[/QUOTE]

    Do you remember the game? He gave up 5 in the 1st, and 4 in the second. Should he have been removed in the 2nd inning? He "settled down" after that and had scoreless frames in the 3rd and 4th before giving up a HR in the 5th.

    And how many times did Francona have Wakefield in games when he didn't have his stuff? Do you remember them all?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: This Team is a Complete Joke : you are wrong, Lester needed to pitch some innings that day to hopefully figure it out and you can't go to the pen in the first 2 innings there, Lester needs to suck it up there.
    Posted by xdrive[/QUOTE]

    Exactly.
     
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    In Response to Re: This Team is a Complete Joke:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: This Team is a Complete Joke : Do you remember the game? He gave up 5 in the 1st, and 4 in the second. Should he have been removed in the 2nd inning? He "settled down" after that and had scoreless frames in the 3rd and 4th before giving up a HR in the 5th. And how many times did Francona have Wakefield in games when he didn't have his stuff? Do you remember them all?
    Posted by ADG[/QUOTE]
    Yes
     
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    Should have been pulled in the 2nd when the Sox still were remotely in the game.
     
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    In Response to Re: This Team is a Complete Joke:
    [QUOTE]pins, you don't do that to pitchers. It's not about all-stars. Wakefield voluntarily did that back in the day. It's not something you do as a manager. You pull the guy whether it's a rookie or an All-Star. It's called protecting your players.
    Posted by dannycater[/QUOTE]

    Protecting your players?  Even when they trash you every chance they get?  Screw that.  I would've left Lester in too.  Now quit the crying and play some ball...
     
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    [QUOTE]WE ARE NOW THE 1980'S YANKEES - THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE LEAGUE....UNBELIEVABLE..........
    Posted by andrewmitch[/QUOTE]These are the times I put you on ignore, when you start saying things like this.
     
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    [QUOTE]The problem with this labor group long pre-dated Valentine. There is no doubt about that. Time to fire the foxes from the henhouse by the end of next winter. A lot of Red Sox veteran players need to go. Ellsbury and Beckett should be first on that list. Lackey will need to go as soon as he can pass a physical. Time to boooh the players when they take the field.
    Posted by TrotterNixon[/QUOTE]

    Agreed on Beckett and Lackey. They can probably get a good deal in return for Ellsbury. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: This Team is a Complete Joke : These are the times I put you on ignore, when you start saying things like this.
    Posted by carnie[/QUOTE]

    They are the laughing stock in the league.
     
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