Re: Tim Wakefield's Selfishness
posted at 9/30/2011 3:35 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Tim Wakefield's Selfishness
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Tim Wakefield's Selfishness : Prepostorous. Worse, it's a mind-numbing statement Wakefield's not even better than 1/3 of the #5 staters in baseball. And for a guy you claim can run he looked pathetic coming off the mound for bunts and squibbers this year; the only running he really needs to do.
Posted by OscarGamble[/QUOTE]
He was bad in the field last year after his back surgery, but he was much better this year. I stick by my statement. Some of you guys went off on Wake after he had to field a bunt 3 feet in fron of the plate. Where was VTek? The fact that Wake got to the spot and still almost made the play should have shown you guys the opposite of what you concluded. I've heard several announcers say the same thing, basically, that Wake is still a "good fielder" even as he has aged.
Besides, it's not one pitcher's fielding that lost this season. It's not the fact that our #6/7 starter led the team to a 12-10 record that lost the season. It's not Wake's fault he happened to be going for #200. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think he was out there just to get to #200. We had nobody better. Miller and Weiland were never the answers. Wake has a pretty solid first 15 starts. He earned the right to stay out there. He pitched better and stayed healthier than most of the other guys out there not named Beckett and Lester, yet he was continuously singled out as the reason for our demise. He got more grief than Lackey for God's sake! At about 1/10th the salary!
You guys are right. Wake should go. You guys don't deserve it.
By the way, have a look at the leagues 5th starters and get it through your thick skulls that Wake was our 6th starter tuned to 7th after Bedard joined the club. Your expectations for 6/7 guy are totally unrealistic. Have a look for yourselves at some of the other teams top 5 starters (not top 6 or 7, but TOP FIVE!):
2 teamers: Zach Stewert 2-6 6.00 (63 IP)/J Reyes 7-11 5.66 (134 IP)
Angels (big home park): Pineiro 7-7 5.10/Chatwood 6-11 4.81
Astros (NL no DH): Happ 6-15 5.35/Lyles 2-7 5.02
Athletics (big park): Harden 4-4 5.12
Blue Jays: Villanueva 5-3 5.15/Drabek 4-5 5.70
Braves (NL & big park): Lowe 9-17 5.05 (some of you wanted him!)
Brewers (NL): Narveson 11-8 4.54
Cards (NL): Westbrook 12-9 4.66
Cubs (NL): Coleman 3-9 6.18/Wells 7-6 4.99/Zamb 9-7 4.82/Dempster 10-14 4,80/ Lopez 6-5 4.50
DBacks (NL): No 5th starter with over 60 IP.
LAD (NL): No 5th starter with over 60 IP.
Giants (NL): Sanchez 4-7 4.26
Indians: Talbot 2-6 6.64/Carmona 7-15 5.25/Carrasco 8-9 4.62
Mariners (huge park): No 5th starter with over 60 IP.
Marlins (NL): Volstad 5-13 4.89
Mets (NL): Pelfrey 7-13 4.70
Nats (NL): Hernandez 8-13 4.47
O's: Bergeson 2-7 5.78/Tillman 3-5 5.52/Arrieta 10-8 5.05/Hunter 3-3 5.00/Simon 3-8 4.96
Padres (NL & huge park): LeBlanc 5-6 4.63
Phillies (NL): Oswalt 9-10 3.69
Pirates (NL): Correia 12-11 4.82
Rangers: Lewis 14-10 4.40
Rays: Davis 11-10 4.45
Red Sox: Wakefield 7-8 5.31/Lackey 12-12 6.41
Reds (NL):Volquez 5-7 5.71/Wood 5-6 5.08/Arroyo 9-12 5.07/Willis 1-6 5.08.
Rockies (NL): Rogers 5-6 6.28/Cook 3-10 5.81/Hammel 7-12 4.95
Royals: Davies 1-9 6.75/Duffy 4-8 5.64/Francis 6-16 4.82
Tigers: Penny 11-11 5.30/P. Coke 1-7 4.82
Twins: Duensing 9-13 5.24/Liriano 9-9 4.84
CWS: Peavy 6-7 5.10
NYY: Hughes 5-4 5.90/Burnett 11-11 5.16
If you go beyond ERA and W-Ls, you'll see that Wake compares favorably to many of these guys and others not even on this list in IP per GS (over 6) and WHIP (1.358).