Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/11/2011 4:19 PM EDT
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Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd:
Like Paul Byrd before him, Wake is only in the rotation because there's a need. He's not exactly Felix Hernandez out there, but I'm not seeing what's so horrible about a 3-1 record, 4.80 ERA, and 1.20 WHIP from your #6 starter.
Posted by Flapjack07
Great point and that should end this thread.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/11/2011 4:27 PM EDT
- Goofywocky
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Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/11/2011 4:49 PM EDT
- cpjohn1
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Wakefield if getting it done!
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/11/2011 7:50 PM EDT
- moonslav59
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When you hate and bash 40% of the team you supposedly love, it's easy to find one, at any given moment, to pick on for playing "poorly", especially when you specialize in 1 game and even one play sample sizes.
Here's the softy list of hatred (in approximate order of hatred):
Edited:
1) Jake (crickets lately)
2) Wake (forget he's 3rd in WHIP/4th in IP)
3) Jed (no pop)
4) VTek
5) Slackey
6) Salty
7) Jenks
8) Crawford
9) "Fat" Beckett
10) Scutaro
11) Hill ("left a mess")
Then, there is Theo and Tito.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/11/2011 10:13 PM EDT
- BurritoT
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moon why are you calling Beckett fat?
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/11/2011 10:37 PM EDT
- LloydDobler
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More utter nonsense from Softy, and amazingly I'm not at all surprised.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/11/2011 11:21 PM EDT
- SleeStack1
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Meh. Its not even fun anymore. Softy's gone...well soft.
Guess we'll go see what silliness Babe can conjure..
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/11/2011 11:22 PM EDT
- SinceYaz
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Lloyd,
Nonsense & Softy are interchangeable.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/11/2011 11:40 PM EDT
- moonslav59
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moon why are you calling Beckett fat?
No, your hero did, just before he said Theo was an idiot for extending him.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 12:25 AM EDT
I must have missed it, but softlaw was bashing Rich Hill? You have got to be kidding me?! Shoot, I hate having a guy with a 0.00 ERA on the season in my bullpen. What a terrible player. Wait, he also mows down lefties like weeds and, with his ridiculous breaking stuff, makes hitters look foolish at times such as making them swing far, FAR too early? Wow, dump the bum and get me Brandon Lyon! We need a closer with a 10.15 ERA instead!
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 12:34 AM EDT
- moonslav59
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Yeah, he actually said Theo should bring up Oki to take care of "Hill's mess". When questioned about it, he blasted Hill more and more.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 2:11 AM EDT
- BurritoT
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Hey I have always wanted Beckett here... but I can see where they (without hindsight) might have waited to see how well he pitched in 2011 before offering him a new deal. Either way I wanted him here, and he is proving himself still the team ACE.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 2:33 AM EDT
- moonslav59
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Wow, you are taking a different view from softy? Good for you!
I agree, they could have waited, but perhaps they were afraid he'd have a year like this one, and they'd lose him or have to pay even more.
Either way, he's always had a bit of a gut. I guess it only gets in his way when he's doing poorly.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 3:37 AM EDT
Beckett has not always had a "bit of a gut". He is not in the shape he was in with the 2003 Marlins, but his weight is down and he is in better shape than 2010.
Hill was a reclaimation project who had no chance to last with that terrible delivery. Oki most certainly was asked to clean up Hill's breakdown and do what Hottovy ended up with. 2.1 innings and 3 walks, 0 hits and 0 ER.
If blasting Hill "more and more" means pointing out, one time, the fact that Hill was a local political reclaimation project, Oki and DiceK have been nuked by MoonSlo.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 3:46 AM EDT
- moonslav59
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You called it a "mess".
You slam Wake and Jed and Jake for injuries and give then no leeway for recovery, but then cry like a baby when Lugo, Coco, Dice and Oki get hurt.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 4:39 AM EDT
The other thing about Wakefield is that he has taken significant pay cuts to the point where I think he is making about 30% of what he made 2 years ago. Paying a guy 1.5 mill to stabalize a rotation when people get hurt is positively chump change! I fail to see anything bad here!
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 7:21 AM EDT
- Hfxsoxnut
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Wakefield has only made about $55 million over his 17-year career with the team, an average of just over $3 million a year.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 7:39 AM EDT
- southpaw777
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probably one of the best deals in baseball overall when you think about it Hfx..
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 8:34 AM EDT
....and why is Wake's age an issue, anyway? Who cares how old he is, either he's good enough to pitch or he's not. Only a bigot like this idiot, or TIS (That Idiot Softlaw) would care about it.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 10:19 AM EDT
- Goofywocky
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Huh? what a silly thread. Timmy the knuckluh is performing well, for free, compared to the contracts of the others, especially the dead arm bull pen...jenks, wheeler, erratic paps, bard. Might look at Lackey's salary and era...comes back from DL with an era of 6 in a couple starts, lowering his to 7.4..all at $18mil. Even Lester's era is over 5 in his last 3 starts. Get real. Wake up.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 3:05 PM EDT
- moonslav59
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After what Wake did at ages 41-42, you'd think people wouldn't apply the same paradigms to his history and age as they do to others.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 3:34 PM EDT
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Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd:
Hi name is Tim Wakefield you better dead than red clown. WAKEFIELD! note wastefield. why don't you get on your tricycle and ride into a brick wall. for cripes sake, the guy has done nothing but perform and all you do is sit in your highchair and complain. go take a freakin nap!
Posted by Hammah29r2
Hammah,
I've written this troll more than once on this so now I've renamed this idiot
betterdeadthanred. I was one who lobbied to get rid of Wakefield last year, but I've admitted to the group my mistake. Without Tim Wakefield we'd not have a reliable number 4-5 starter.He has his off days which unfortunately balloon his era, but with Wakefield it's always been that way, but if you look at his game log this season he's definitely been of great value to the Sox this year.
Deadhead should retire his hatred, but if you read his posts they are mostly garbage time posts anyways.
Hetchinspete
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 4:43 PM EDT
- moonslav59
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Deadhead can never admit to a mistake.
For some reason he sees humility as a weakness.
He likes to bring up other poster's mistakes (often times misrepresenting), like somehow we are claiming we have been perfect like he does.
He's a clown.
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 4:52 PM EDT
- canetime
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softy--tell us about ELLSBURY
Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd
posted at 6/12/2011 5:02 PM EDT
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Re: Tim Wastefield - The Old Paul Byrd:
softy--tell us about ELLSBURY
Posted by canetime
Canetime,
It's nice, ya know.... If you're up late & can't sleep... Say 3 - 4 in the morning..
Betterdead tells the sweetest bedtime stories about Ells. tearing it up out there.
I sleep like the happiest little baby ever:)
