Time to Bench Salty

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    I am near certain that either Salty or Lava will be dealt. If it is Lava, I think we will try to extend Salty.

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    for sure, i think salty will continue to improve so i am hesisitant to deal him. plus, i think lava would get us a better return than salty

     
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    Probably, unless we are trading with a team that wants to win in 2013 and has a rotten catching position right now.

     
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    If salty stays and continues to improve, a 3-4 year extension would be possible. Vasquez is still 2-3 years away and Swihart a little longer...Makes perfect sense if he shows more improvement.

     
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    I think the title of this thread could be called, "Time to Trade Salty".

     
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    What are the White Sox options at catcher this year?

    I gotta think a Salty and another player (Breslow? Miller? Melancon?) for Gavin Floyd is something that may be in the works.

     
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    What are the White Sox options at catcher this year?

    I gotta think a Salty and another player (Breslow? Miller? Melancon?) for Gavin Floyd is something that may be in the works.

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    They like the Flowers kid, thats why AJ is still out there...Maybe though. I think Salty and one more player is plenty for Floyd.

     
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    I think you've seen the best of Salty.  There isn't much that is going to change the way he handles his at bats.  Coaching may cut down a little on his errant swings but he is always going to stike out.  

     
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    I think you've seen the best of Salty.  There isn't much that is going to change the way he handles his at bats.  Coaching may cut down a little on his errant swings but he is always going to stike out.  

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    hes gotten better every year. not outside the realm of possibility to think he will get better again this year (in a contract year no less)

     
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    I think you've seen the best of Salty.  There isn't much that is going to change the way he handles his at bats.  Coaching may cut down a little on his errant swings but he is always going to stike out.  

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    hes gotten better every year. not outside the realm of possibility to think he will get better again this year (in a contract year no less)

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    He improved his defense by leaps and bounds. That was the area in most need of advancement.

     
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    Boston has three catchers right now. 

    How about Cherington trading Salty, Iglesias, and a prospect to Oakland for Brett Anderson?

    Oakland needs a SS, Salty would be an upgrade (especially offensively) over their current catcher, and a prospect to sweeten the deal. 

     

     
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    Boston has three catchers right now. 

    How about Cherington trading Salty, Iglesias, and a prospect to Oakland for Brett Anderson?

    Oakland needs a SS, Salty would be an upgrade (especially offensively) over their current catcher, and a prospect to sweeten the deal. 

     

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    maybe salty and Jacoby could get the job done. I think oakland values B Anderson and we would have to give up a bit. but good news is that Oakland is a contender nowadays and may view salty/jacoby as the push they need to win it all.

     
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    Oak doesn't want one year players with higher salaries than Anderson.

     

     
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    Re: Time to Bench Salty

    Keep Salty! At least 1 more year...

     
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    He's a FA after 2013. I think trading him makes most sense.

    Option 2: extend him now, before he improves even more and wants a huge paycheck, and then trade Lava.

     
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    Oak doesn't want one year players with higher salaries than Anderson.

     

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    if Beane thinks they can win it all in 2013 by supplementing his team with 1 year guys (great 1 year guys no less) then i could see it. but we do not know the mindset of BB really. and we have enough slack in our payroll that we could send cash along with them to ease their impact on oaklands checkbook

     
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    Oak doesn't want one year players with higher salaries than Anderson.

     

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    if Beane thinks they can win it all in 2013 by supplementing his team with 1 year guys (great 1 year guys no less) then i could see it. but we do not know the mindset of BB really. and we have enough slack in our payroll that we could send cash along with them to ease their impact on oaklands checkbook

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    I guess it could happen, but it would be a totally new philosophy by BB.

    Personally, I think BB would want Lava not Salty. Lava is likely better than what he has right now for 2013, but would give him 5 more years of team control than Salty. I suggested Tazawa to perhaps help the A's Asian marketing and their pen. We could also give them a SS prospect, but I think they are looking for something more immediate. They wanted Aviles last summer, but he's gone now.

    I'd love to get Anderson for Ells, Salty and a prospect, but I doubt it will happen.

     
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    Oak doesn't want one year players with higher salaries than Anderson.

     

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    if Beane thinks they can win it all in 2013 by supplementing his team with 1 year guys (great 1 year guys no less) then i could see it. but we do not know the mindset of BB really. and we have enough slack in our payroll that we could send cash along with them to ease their impact on oaklands checkbook

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    I guess it could happen, but it would be a totally new philosophy by BB.

    Personally, I think BB would want Lava not Salty. Lava is likely better than what he has right now for 2013, but would give him 5 more years of team control than Salty. I suggested Tazawa to perhaps help the A's Asian marketing and their pen. We could also give them a SS prospect, but I think they are looking for something more immediate. They wanted Aviles last summer, but he's gone now.

    I'd love to get Anderson for Ells, Salty and a prospect, but I doubt it will happen.

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    regardless of what the pieces are we certainly have them to get a deal for BA done..

     
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    Oak doesn't want one year players with higher salaries than Anderson.

     

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    if Beane thinks they can win it all in 2013 by supplementing his team with 1 year guys (great 1 year guys no less) then i could see it. but we do not know the mindset of BB really. and we have enough slack in our payroll that we could send cash along with them to ease their impact on oaklands checkbook

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    I guess it could happen, but it would be a totally new philosophy by BB.

    Personally, I think BB would want Lava not Salty. Lava is likely better than what he has right now for 2013, but would give him 5 more years of team control than Salty. I suggested Tazawa to perhaps help the A's Asian marketing and their pen. We could also give them a SS prospect, but I think they are looking for something more immediate. They wanted Aviles last summer, but he's gone now.

    I'd love to get Anderson for Ells, Salty and a prospect, but I doubt it will happen.

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    regardless of what the pieces are we certainly have them to get a deal for BA done..

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    Now that B McCarthy is gone, the list is shrinking.

     
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    I bet somehow Salty ends up in CWS and we get Floyd.

     
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    Other needs aside, my preference would still be to keep both Salty and Lav.  Both are still developing, and it would be nice to give each of them at least one more year to see what kind of progress they make.  I'd hate to trade one away only to have him have a breakout year.  That said, I'm sure one of them will be dealt soon.

    If the Sox deal Lavarnway, I don't think they should sign Salty to an extension right now.   While I agree that he's improved, I am not sold on his defense yet.

     

     
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    Other needs aside, my preference would still be to keep both Salty and Lav.  Both are still developing, and it would be nice to give each of them at least one more year to see what kind of progress they make.  I'd hate to trade one away only to have him have a breakout year.  That said, I'm sure one of them will be dealt soon.

    If the Sox deal Lavarnway, I don't think they should sign Salty to an extension right now.   While I agree that he's improved, I am not sold on his defense yet.

     

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    If Salty improves with the CWS we can sign him as a FA next winter anyways.

     
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    While none of our 3 catchers are top 10, my guess is there are teams who feel one of ours is an upgrade over what they have.

     
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    I doubt Oakland needs an outfielder because they already have Cespedes, Reddick, Young (via a recent trade with Arizona) and Coco (who I think Oakland will trade).

    Oakland has a surplus of good starting pichers.  I think Beane would be willing to trade Anderson for the right players.

     
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    I doubt Oakland needs an outfielder because they already have Cespedes, Reddick, Young (via a recent trade with Arizona) and Coco (who I think Oakland will trade).

    Oakland has a surplus of good starting pichers.  I think Beane would be willing to trade Anderson for the right players.

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    I agree, but they might not be in their usual rebuild mode for 2013. They would want some offense or a big upgrade at a position of weakness. We can give them some, but we may need to involve a 3rd team to get the deal done.

    Maybe Ellsbury to the 3rd team and that team gives Oakland someone they need for 2013, then we give them Salty or Lava, a pitcher from Tazawa, Aceves or Morales, and a 3Bman for the future in Cecchini. (We may get Coco as part of the deal to take Ells slot and bridge to Bradley.)

     

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