Re: Time to Bench Salty
posted at 8/22/2012 10:13 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Time to Bench Salty
In Response to Re: Time to Bench Salty : Over 200 ABs is no longer in the category of cherry picking. I am not going to settle for a catcher who is in the middle of the offensive stat list (too many K's and low BA but a good OPS) and who is poor defensively. We need to do better.
Posted by pumpsie-green
You chose the time frame that best suited your position. Yes, 200 ABs is not really a small sample size, but many great hitters, good nhitters, and decent hitters have had rough stretches longer that that. Look no farther than earlier this year when Albert Pujols had a .688 OPS after 200 ABs.
My point was that you are criticizing Salty for a bad 200 AB stretch, but there are 8 MLb catchers (in the top 32 by PAs) with a worse OPS ...
ALL YEAR LONG
I'd prefer to have a catcher that got on base more as well. Who wouldn't?
However, when the league average catcher has a .255 BA and .319 OBP, I take Salty's numbers in those areas in context. Yes, they are still below average, but not by much, and to me, his HRs, RBIs (many clutch) has made him an above average offensive catcher this year- not mediocre. The MLB catcher OPS is .726. Salty is over .750 right now. The whole team catching average HR number is about 13. Salty alone has way more at 21. I think ranking K's so strongly and discounting SLG%, RBIs and HRs is a questionable position to hold.
Now, on defense. Flg% and CS% really? Fielding percent is one of the worst stats to judge any fielder by, but catchers? Just 2 less errors and he's be 25th out of 60. Three less and he'd be 13th out of 60 or 7th out of 30. Really? 3 more scorer rated errors makes him "mediocre" at best? This is a joke, right?.
Why not look at PBs per innings caught?
WPs per innings caught?
Assists (minus CSs) per inning caught?
Aren't these numbers more important than the difference between making 3 errors or 6?
If he had an average CS%, he'd have thrown out 8 more runners. Eight. how many runs is that? 2, maybe 3 at most?
You may say CERA is hard to quantify, but if you have been watching the games since April 25th, it is hard to deny the staff has done much better with him than prior to April 25th, 2012. His CERA since 4/25 is about 4.05. That is light years better than previously.
I'd say he is probably the 10th to 14th best offesnive catcher out of 30, and 10th to 16th best catcher on defense out of 30 since May. Overall, maybe he's #12 to 13. I guess you could classify this as "mediocre", but being above average, to me, should not make him the target of so much criticism, especially when there are so many other positions weaker than our catcher position.
If Salty plays near FT the rest of the way, he will likely finish 1st in HRs and 3rd in RBIs on the Sox. Not bad for being about 5th or 6th in PAs on the team.