Re: Time to Bench Salty
posted at 10/21/2012 5:41 PM EDT
I think they can compete with health, good moves and a better clubhouse atmosphere.
Being younger, we should have less injuries, but to me, we need too much to all happen at the same time to be serious contenders in 2013. We may contend for a shot at a wild card, but I doubt even that. I know- look at the Cards, but this is not a team even close to what the Cards have been the last 2 years.
But even if I did consider it a "bridge year", I would still keep Salty to see it through. Honestly, Im not so sure why I believe so much that he will be a solid catcher and even an AS one day (yup, call me crazy) But with Tek back, Farrell back and a noticeable improvement on defense, I just think hes going to put it all together in 2013 and we will see a better AVG and OBP to go along with his much improved defense. Even with the possible trade and re-sign after next year, that just interrupts the process and IMO, Lav is nowhere near ready yet and we have no other viable options. It would just add to the shopping list this winter.
I am very optimistic about Salty in 2013 as well, and your reasoning has added to my confidence. Part of me wants to try and extend him now; I feel so good about his progress. My big concern is that he will have a great year in 2013, but it won't help us win a ring, and then he will sign elsewhere, or if he stays will cost us, he will cost an arm and a leg.
Lavarnway would benefit more with another year in AAA if we really want to see what hes made of as well. Not as punishment, but strictly for developmental reasons.
I agree, but also think that if Papo walks, he'd be OK DH'ing vs RHPs and catching 60 -70 games primarily vs LHPs. He'd learn our staff and be ready to take over in 2014, if Salty bolts.
I understand all your points, and they are all valid. I just cant seem to bring myself to agree with trading Salty. Im the kind of person to finish what has been started if it makes sense. Salty makes sense in regards to seeing improvement, having a low salary, and is the best option we have.
If I thought we could realistically compete in 2013, I'd be all for keeping Salty. Perhaps, if we make some big & bold moves this winter, I'll think we have a legitimate shot in 2013, and then I'd say keep Salty.
Now that we have, or at least the word is, we will get Adam Lind in the Farrell deal what do you see us doing with him? IMO, depth in AAA.
I see 2 suitors right now for Ellsbury. Cincinnati and Texas...
I think SF might be a choice as well. I think Ells would fit in nicely in SF.
1b options are Laroche (I think Nats will keep him though), newly acquired Lind, V-Mart in a trade, Morse in a trade, Mauro Gomez, Kotchman, bring Loney back, Justin Morneau (I like this one), and Jerry Sands.
LaRoche will not be a FA. At worst, the Nats will sign and trade him or Morse. Morneau is just a bridge, but a good player none the less. notin mentioned K Morales as an option.
Long term, I could see us moving Middlebrooks or Bogaerts to 1B as Bogaerts or Cecchini becomes our 3Bman.
I think a 1yr maybe 2yr deal for OF is the way to go, besides giving Ross 2-3yrs. I like Torii Hunter (Angels do too) Ludwick, but he wants more like 2-3 yrs like Ross. It looks as if the A's will be letting Johnny Gomes walk. Delmon young on a longer deal. Angel Pagan (interesting name) If they let Ells walk. Good lead-off guy. Siezmore as a dark horse on a ML deal and invite to ST. the sox have a couple guys who will see playing time in the Fenway OF in 2013-14, so I dont see a Michael Bourn, swisher or Shane Victorino who are looking for long-term deals in FA or BJ/Justin Upton type trades which will cost too much in prospects for the production.
Of all these guys, I like Bourn most of all, unless we can get Ludwick (mutual option).
I like your Ideas on pitching..
I'm thinking more and more about Anibal Sanchez as my first FA choice. I'd also like to see us go after McCarthy, and if we can't get him take a chance on Marcum, J Sanchez, or J Saunders. I'd also be fine with Edwin Jackson. I like Peavy, but think he will end up getting a long term deal somewhere, and do not want us repeating the longterm deal mistake again. Greinke could help us get closer to competing in 2013 and 2014, but he will cost too much. I'd prefer to wait for a better guy to go all out for.