In response to mef429's comment:
In response to southpaw777's comment:
In response to moonslav59's comment:
Age 39 ".300" OBP, no longer our starter and still better in almost every area than Salty
VTek: CS% last 3 seasons: 13%, 21%, 14%
Salty his last 2: 31% & 18%
There's one area, Salty is better.
VTek: Last season at 39: 17 WP and 6 PB in 575 Innings
Salty in 2012: 23 WPs and 6 PBs in 852 Innings.
VTek: BA/OBP his last 4 years:
Salty his last 2:
Advantage VTek on OBP/Advanbtage Salty on BA (slight).
VTek: SLG%: .359, .390, .473, .423 (Last 2 seasons in a reduced role)
Salty: .450 and .454 in a more significant sample size. One more to Salty.
VTek: RBI: 52 in his last 373 PAs and 103 in his last 798 PAs (146 in his last 1223)
Salty: RBI 115 in his last 834 PAs. Call this about even.
VTek blew Salty away on CERA, but he was not always great in this area until he was about 30-31 years old. VTek led the league in PBs at ages 27 and 28, and his CS% was about the same as Salty's with Boston.
I'm not trying to say Salty is or will be as good as Vtek in his prime. Comparing him to the 36-39 year old Vtek is not fair to either one of them, but since you brought it up, I thought I had to set the record straight in a few areas.
Salty's CERA greatly improved after 4/25/12. He compared very closely to Shoppach after that date. He killed Lava in pitcher by pitcher CERA numbers, but the sample sizes were very small.
Extending Salty would be a risk for sure, and I am not saying it's a slam dunk, but if he has a fine season, (and I think he will) he will cost much more than he will if we extend him now.
Remember, I was all over trading him away last winter, but 2012 showede me a strong enough turn-around to be a believer. I do not see Lava ever approaching VTek's defense either, but from what I hear of Vazquez, he might make a good tandem with Salty over the next 2-4 years.
It won't upset me if Salty is not extended, but if we don't plan on keeping him around, then we should deal him before we get nothing in return.
If he does do good Moon, how much do you think the market would dictate? Say he hits something like .240AVG .305 OBP .480SLG. 21 HR...Whats that worth you think?
Remember, although he would obviously cost more, I dont think he will be get double digits per year with those stats, which I think are close to what he will produce. That, and the Sox only have like 85M committed for 2014 (plus the possible 4M if Ortiz is on the DL for more than 20 days), so a bit of a raise for that production at the catcher position for 3-4 years wont strap the team in any way IMO.
i think 3/15-21. 5-7 mil Per seems like a fair deal for both sides.
See, thats what I was thinking so I dont think its a big deal to wait to see how he performs before talking extension. Its not like he could possibly command 10-12M per...More in the 6-8 range I would think.