Re: Time to Bench Salty
posted at 8/26/2013 10:48 PM EDT
In response to moonslav59's comment:
what do you guys think the starting point for saltys contract is going to be??
in 2012, the top catchers made ~8 Mil give or take with Mauer being the outlier @ 23M per. McCan was the next highest at 10.5 and the only other catcher making 8 figures. IMO Salty is a top 10 catcher this year and should be paid like one. So my starting point for negotiations is 7M per. I'd go with a 3 year deal too bringing my starting offer to 7/21 which would be a very good value for a top catcher. Realistically, with the rising salaries among all players good and bad (im looking at you BJ Upton) and a better FA catcher available who will likely set the market i think Salty will get 9-10M per on the open market. Which i would still do for 3 years.
so my range for Saltys future contract is 3 years, 21-27M. Which like i said, i would do without thinking twice. what do you guys think?
Not many posters agreed with my suggestion that we extend Salty last winter. His price tag has certainly gone up, assuming he doesn't drop off a cliff these last 5-6 weeks. One of his biggest negatives has been the preception that he has little durability or stamina.
Well moon, He is on pace this year to catch more innings than ever before in his career i believe. If he doesn't hit a wall then i think that should be a pretty good indication of his stamina. He's been pretty darn healthy while on our team too. Gotta love that!
What will Salty get this winter? Hard to say.
Russell Martin got $17M/2
Pierzynski got $7.5M/1
D Ross got $6.2M/2
I have to think Salty will get more than Martin got. My guess is he will get close to $30M/3 or $36M/4. He might get more.
I would do 30/3 but that's my absolute max. He is entering his prime so he could definitely be worth it and his defense is only going to get better the longer he works on his craft.....
I think one idea coud be to offer him a low risk 1 year deal at about $14M- a qualiftying offer. If he takes it, he will be overpayed, but the longterm risk is nill, and we have several catching prospects on the rise. If he turns it down, the loss of a draft pick may scare a lot of bidders away. He almost has to take the $14M/1 offer.
I mention something similar to this on another thread. Look at what a QO did to the value of guys like Bourne and Loshe(? I forget.) If we give him a QO he would likely accept it on value alone, factor in the reduced value other teams have because of the attached draft pick and his hands are pretty much tied. but that should be a last resort IMO.
Personally, I'd offer close to $30M/3. If one of our catching prospects rises quickly, we can always make a trade.
I'm right with ya. and while we shouldn't count on this i feel it has to be mentioned. Salty seems to love it here and might sign a team friendly deal..