Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from Michaelkayn. Show Michaelkayn's posts

    Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    The outfield is terrible and the flyin Hawaiian has been grounded most of the year, LA has 5 everyday outfielders, Kemp hasn't looked great but he definitely can still hit and would help solidify this awful lineup and add a little speed to this team, he's not what he used to be, but he may benefit from a scenery change, and he would definitely help us out, maybe even be the number 3 hitter we badly need, and if we can get healthy we would have a decent looking line up.


    Victorino RF


    Pedroia 2B


    Kemp LF


    Ortiz DH 


    Napoli 1B


    Drew SS


    Bogaerts 3B


    Pierzynski C


    Bradley Jr. CF


    Bench: gomes, carp, middlebrooks, sizemore


    Something like that anyways.


    You won't always be at your best,  
    Thats when you have to be great...

     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from dgalehouse. Show dgalehouse's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    What would it take. Is Sox management willing to spend the money?  Finally, would the Dodgers, who are trying to win a championship, agree to deal Kemp for marginal guys ?  These are the questions. 

    Stabbed by Foulke.

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from pumpsie-green. Show pumpsie-green's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to Michaelkayn's comment:
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    The outfield is terrible and the flyin Hawaiian has been grounded most of the year, LA has 5 everyday outfielders, Kemp hasn't looked great but he definitely can still hit and would help solidify this awful lineup and add a little speed to this team, he's not what he used to be, but he may benefit from a scenery change, and he would definitely help us out, maybe even be the number 3 hitter we badly need, and if we can get healthy we would have a decent looking line up.

     

    Victorino RF

     

    Pedroia 2B

     

    Kemp LF

     

    Ortiz DH 

     

    Napoli 1B

     

    Drew SS

     

    Bogaerts 3B

     

    Pierzynski C

     

    Bradley Jr. CF

     

    Bench: gomes, carp, middlebrooks, sizemore

     

    Something like that anyways.

     

    You won't always be at your best,  
    Thats when you have to be great...

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    Kemp or any other player for that matter would not make much difference with the way the rest of these buffoons are playing right now. Take out Nava and put in Kemp and we still have Sizemore, Bradley, AJ, and Carp out there. Even Pedroia is playing like a clown. Its up to the current roster to wake up, and its getting late.

    WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

     

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from MadMc44. Show MadMc44's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    It's too early to throw in the towel--my concern is losing just like winning is contagious. Everyone must be on the same page and everyone has to buy in. It doesn't matter that Nap and Vi and WMB are on the DL--it matters that the nine players do their best and when the bench players come in they do their best, It's proven , it will work--everyone has to buy in.

    Remind them tomorrow before the Braves game they are only one game better in the win column than the Houston Astros--that unto itself should be enough motivation. 

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from Joebreidey. Show Joebreidey's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    Kemp has been benched for the last 3 games.

    He might have lost his job to Crawford.

    If we want Kemp, why not just go for the guy the beat out Kemp, and re-acquire Crawford?

     

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from MadMc44. Show MadMc44's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    Now that's a funny way to close out the day the Sox lost # 10 in a row. I am smiling as I type--Thanks Joe B.

     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from chickenandboose. Show chickenandboose's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    My child, the solution to the OF is Mookie Betts. Betts is the key to this team to turn it around but he is still rotten away in the minors. 

     

     

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from billge. Show billge's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    Kemp is only 27 but his steals and power have declined.  Are his wheels bad permanently?

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from pinstripezac35. Show pinstripezac35's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:
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    Kemp has been benched for the last 3 games.

    He might have lost his job to Crawford.

    If we want Kemp, why not just go for the guy the beat out Kemp, and re-acquire Crawford?

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     interesting comment seein how it's been ethier who has started in center field instead of Kemp

    while kemp is learning to play LF, the same position Michaelkayn  suggested in the OP

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/dodgersnow/la-sp-dn-dodgers-matt-kemp-left-field-20140525-story.html

    a healthy kemp would make any team better

     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from donrd4. Show donrd4's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to Michaelkayn's comment:
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    The outfield is terrible and the flyin Hawaiian has been grounded most of the year, LA has 5 everyday outfielders, Kemp hasn't looked great but he definitely can still hit and would help solidify this awful lineup and add a little speed to this team, he's not what he used to be, but he may benefit from a scenery change, and he would definitely help us out, maybe even be the number 3 hitter we badly need, and if we can get healthy we would have a decent looking line up.

     

    Victorino RF

     

    Pedroia 2B

     

    Kemp LF

     

    Ortiz DH 

     

    Napoli 1B

     

    Drew SS

     

    Bogaerts 3B

     

    Pierzynski C

     

    Bradley Jr. CF

     

    Bench: gomes, carp, middlebrooks, sizemore

     

    Something like that anyways.

    No No No    JBJ must go....his bat is like letting pitcher hit.  Anybody else but JBJ...Please.......................

    You won't always be at your best,  
    Thats when you have to be great...

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  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from ctredsoxfanhugh. Show ctredsoxfanhugh's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to chickenandboose's comment:
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    My child, the solution to the OF is Mookie Betts. Betts is the key to this team to turn it around but he is still rotten away in the minors. 

     

     

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    Rotting away in the minors??????

    hes about the 2nd youngest guy in AA. Hes already on the fast track PUMP the brakes. 

    Machado is the exception and not the rule. The vast majority of AA-MLB players struggle out the gate.

    so how is a hypothetical scenario, that the majority of results have shown he would not help us right away be the solution?

    promote him to Pawtucket and revisit this question in August.

     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from S5. Show S5's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
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    In response to chickenandboose's comment:
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    My child, the solution to the OF is Mookie Betts. Betts is the key to this team to turn it around but he is still rotten away in the minors. 

     

     

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    Rotting away in the minors??????

    hes about the 2nd youngest guy in AA. Hes already on the fast track PUMP the brakes. 

    Machado is the exception and not the rule. The vast majority of AA-MLB players struggle out the gate.

    so how is a hypothetical scenario, that the majority of results have shown he would not help us right away be the solution?

    promote him to Pawtucket and revisit this question in August.

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    You have entirely too much common sense and perspective to be posting on this board!  

    Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.

     

     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from chickenandboose. Show chickenandboose's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
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    In response to chickenandboose's comment:
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    My child, the solution to the OF is Mookie Betts. Betts is the key to this team to turn it around but he is still rotten away in the minors. 

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Rotting away in the minors??????

    hes about the 2nd youngest guy in AA. Hes already on the fast track PUMP the brakes. 

    Machado is the exception and not the rule. The vast majority of AA-MLB players struggle out the gate.

    so how is a hypothetical scenario, that the majority of results have shown he would not help us right away be the solution?

    promote him to Pawtucket and revisit this question in August.

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    Again, he could he helping this team now and is clearly not being challenged at all in AA. He also has nothing to work on in the minors(he has no holes in his swing, and knows the strike zone) and can help this team offensively versus JBJ, and Sizemore. If anything he should be in AAA right now and if he is still crushing the ball after 2-4 weeks then call him up. While wait until august? By then this team will be out of the playoff run... 

    Call he crazy but I am calling it now. He WILL be our little Mike Trout but with more speed and less power.

     
  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from Hfxsoxnut. Show Hfxsoxnut's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    Kemp is not the answer.  He's only 29, but he's no longer able to play centre field?  And he's been benched 3 games in a row because he's 'learning to play left field'?  It all sounds pretty wonky to me. 


    I think we've got enough issues without adding this guy to the mix.

     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from Joebreidey. Show Joebreidey's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:
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    In response to Joebreidey's comment:
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    Kemp has been benched for the last 3 games.

    He might have lost his job to Crawford.

    If we want Kemp, why not just go for the guy the beat out Kemp, and re-acquire Crawford?

    [/QUOTE]

     interesting comment seein how it's been ethier who has started in center field instead of Kemp

    while kemp is learning to play LF, the same position Michaelkayn  suggested in the OP

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/dodgersnow/la-sp-dn-dodgers-matt-kemp-left-field-20140525-story.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/dodgersnow/la-sp-dn-dodgers-matt-kemp-left-field-20140525-story.html

    a healthy kemp would make any team better

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    1-So then what I should've said is that Kemp is platooning in LF with CC?  Still, not an argument in favor of Kemp.

    2-Half the players in the league will make a team better.  It's a question of how much of an improvement v how much extra cost.  Between 2013-2014, Kemp has a .743.  Gomes has a .770.  Even assuming Kemp is a .800 Fenway player, I don't want to see Lester walk so we can upgrade from .700 to .800.

    3-A healthy Kemp will improve a team only assuming it is also a vintage Kemp.  I don't think you can assume a 29 y.o. Kemp can help a team as well as a 27 y.o. Kemp.

     
  16. You have chosen to ignore posts from Joebreidey. Show Joebreidey's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
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    In response to chickenandboose's comment:
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    My child, the solution to the OF is Mookie Betts. Betts is the key to this team to turn it around but he is still rotten away in the minors. 

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Rotting away in the minors??????

    hes about the 2nd youngest guy in AA. Hes already on the fast track PUMP the brakes. 

    Machado is the exception and not the rule. The vast majority of AA-MLB players struggle out the gate.

    so how is a hypothetical scenario, that the majority of results have shown he would not help us right away be the solution?

    promote him to Pawtucket and revisit this question in August.

    [/QUOTE]


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    It's kind of interesting that folks want Mookie to replace JBJ, based solely on his minor league stats, and JBJ actually has better minor league stats.

     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from ctredsoxfanhugh. Show ctredsoxfanhugh's posts

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    In response to chickenandboose's comment:
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    In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
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    In response to chickenandboose's comment:
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    My child, the solution to the OF is Mookie Betts. Betts is the key to this team to turn it around but he is still rotten away in the minors. 

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Rotting away in the minors??????

    hes about the 2nd youngest guy in AA. Hes already on the fast track PUMP the brakes. 

    Machado is the exception and not the rule. The vast majority of AA-MLB players struggle out the gate.

    so how is a hypothetical scenario, that the majority of results have shown he would not help us right away be the solution?

    promote him to Pawtucket and revisit this question in August.

    [/QUOTE]

    Again, he could he helping this team now and is clearly not being challenged at all in AA. He also has nothing to work on in the minors(he has no holes in his swing, and knows the strike zone) and can help this team offensively versus JBJ, and Sizemore. If anything he should be in AAA right now and if he is still crushing the ball after 2-4 weeks then call him up. While wait until august? By then this team will be out of the playoff run... 

    Call he crazy but I am calling it now. He WILL be our little Mike Trout but with more speed and less power.

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    You're crazy (you told me too) Mike Trout is arguably the best player in baseball and even he struggled right out the gates.  While plausible, it is completely unreasonable and unlikely to expect Mookie Betts to come up and be a difference maker in the big leagues right away. 

     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from billge. Show billge's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    1 year younger than Ells. Played about 4  full seasons with injuries part of the rest just like Els How much would we pay him, and whhat do we give to get him,as compared to Els who we already had.?

     
  19. You have chosen to ignore posts from Joebreidey. Show Joebreidey's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to billge's comment:
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    1 year younger than Ells. Played about 4  full seasons with injuries part of the rest just like Els How much would we pay him, and whhat do we give to get him,as compared to Els who we already had.?

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    The difference in the injuries is that Ellsbury had his via collisions.  Kemp has wear and tear injuries.  Not overly interested in either one.

     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from ctredsoxfanhugh. Show ctredsoxfanhugh's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:
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    In response to billge's comment:
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    1 year younger than Ells. Played about 4  full seasons with injuries part of the rest just like Els How much would we pay him, and whhat do we give to get him,as compared to Els who we already had.?

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    The difference in the injuries is that Ellsbury had his via collisions.  Kemp has wear and tear injuries.  Not overly interested in either one.

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    This, not all injuries are created equally.  Ellsburys healthy may be concerning but the fact that they were freakish and he has never really had one injury due to daily baseball activities speaks volumes compared to Kemp who was hurt playing day to day ball.

    There is a difference, I consider Kemps history worse and more concerning.  Especially going into his 30's, he is not going to all of a sudden become less injury prone, and if anything he is increasingly more and more injury prone....all for 20+ a year and we would still have to give something up to get him. 

    Especially seeing how he is playing decent now and staying healthy his value is only going to go up. 

    I thought the Kemp trade ideal was killed years ago when Softy beat it into the ground.  I guess not.

     
  21. You have chosen to ignore posts from DaffyDan. Show DaffyDan's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    How time changes everything, a guy named Mookie could be our outfield's savior. 

    But probably not this year, cause he's played all of 14 games in the outfield in the Minors. 

    -Daf. 

     
  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from Flapjack07. Show Flapjack07's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    .264/.327/.453/.780, 5 HR, 13 RBI

    Kemp might be better than some of what we have right now, but is he going to put us over the top? If we're going to go big for an outfielder, he wouldn't be my choice.

     
  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from S5. Show S5's posts

    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    No. Most definitely NOT Kemp.

    Acquiring Kemp and his multi-million dollar contract mortgages the future while grasping at straws.  If the Sox sign him they're stuck with that contract forever because nobody else is going to be desperate enough to take it on after/if he fails again. IMO it's not worth the risk. 

    There is no "silver bullet" player out there that's going to pull this team out of its doldrums.  It's up to the players who are there.  IMO Drew will help defensively - it's a start - and now the team has to play .500 ball until they get their injured players back, THEN go on a run.  

    Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.

     
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    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    In response to chickenandboose's comment:
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    My child, the solution to the OF is Mookie Betts. Betts is the key to this team to turn it around but he is still rotten away in the minors. [/QUOTE]

    Maybe we will see Cecchini in LF and Betts in CF/RF before too long. The defense might suffer, but the offense is very promising, yet untested.


     
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    Re: Time to revisit the Matt Kemp discussion?

    Matt Kemp ... Matt Kemp ... why does that name sound so familiar?  Ohhhh, is he that guy that played for the Dodgers a few years ago, had a couple all-star seasons?  What ever happened to him anyway?  Good looking dude.  

         
     
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