Re: Trade Proposals
posted at 6/21/2013 2:41 PM EDT
In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to southpaw777's comment:
In response to davidap's comment:
You can't always worry about the future when you have a good shot at a championship in the present. Do you think Washington is regretting now its handling of Strausburg last year? I'm not suggesting the Red Sox mortgage everything, but standing pat would be foolish too. They're not that far away from legitimate championship contention.
The Red Sox are in a position to win right now. If they add another ace to pair up with Buchholz, they're in great shape heading into the second half of the season and October. Boston is not a small market team. It has the resources to afford an exorbitant contract. Maybe adding both Lee and Papelbon in the same deal is too much, but the Red Sox could definitely trade for one of them, and I'd prefer that it be Lee.
Lester, Lavarnway and Middlebrooks for Lee would be a reasonable swap for both teams. The Phillies would save money, they'd add two young players who could possibly start for them in the near future in Lavarnway and Middlebrooks, and Lester who is already a reasonably good pitcher would improve against National League lineups. Meanwhile, the Red Sox would add a proven No. 1 pitcher and open up an everyday spot for Jose Iglesias.
Forget about Gallardo and these second-tier guys. Don't trade for people just because they're young and have upside. When you're trying to win now, you get guys who will help you win now. Lee is a proven top shelf commodity.
The Sox wont go over the luxury tax. These 2 contracts equaling 38M will do just that.
We wouldn't be paying the full amount this year. We'd only pay a third or about $13M, assuming Phill doesn't chip in any. I think that still puts us over the cap, unless we dump some salary ourselves (one of more of Drew, Aceves, Ells, SV...)
I know everyone wants a closer, but we may be able to fill that role from within by the deadline.
I have always wanted a quality SP, but the cost will probably be too high.
That leaves one other big team weakness that may be filled this deadline: The big Right-handed bat for the middle of the order. The only "open slots" for a player like that are 3B and OF. Here is a look at some teams that are out of it, or may be by July 31st.
Note (read carefully Pike):
I am not saying I am for getting any of these guys. I am just offering up some possible available players or players at the positions I noted that would fill that void:
I'm not a big fan of Michael Young, but he's certainly better than MWB right now. Another name might be Aramis Ramirez from the Brewers, who are out of it right now. He is 35 and is owed $16M next year. He's dropped off a lot from 2012, but still hits lefties over .800 (.718 vs RHPs). Last year, he was 1.049 vs LHPs and .853 vs RHPs. He led the NL in 2Bs with 50 and still had 27 HRs and 105 RBIs. He makes $10M this year, so only about 3.4m will be owed after the deadline. There is a mutual option for 2015 with a $4M buyout, so essentially, he is owed about $23M for the rest of 2013 and all of 2014. Can yoy, "salary dump"?
That would mean one of 2 things:
1) We wouldn't have to give up much in terms of prospects to take on his salary.
2) The Brewers would pay part of his contract in return for better prospects.
Michael Young is 36 and has a .760 OPS right now (.682 last year). He is better vs LHPs this year (.858) than Ramirez. He's also better vs RHPs (.730 to .718), but he was much worse last year: .794 vs LHPs and .643 vs RHPs. He makes $16M this year and then is a FA. That would come to about $5.5M after the deadline.
Other big RH'd bat options from teams out of it or looking to rebuild:
Miami: G Stanton (OF), Justin Ruggiano (OF)
NYM: D Wright (3B) (it would take a ton of prospects to pry him loose.)
Philly: John Mayberry (OF)
LAD: Juan Uribe (3B), Matt Kemp (OF), Scott Van Slyke (OF)
SD: Chase Headley (3B), Carlos Quentin (OF) (add H Street?)
Minn: J Willingham (OF)
CWS: Alex Rios (OF) (add Jesse Crain)
SEA: Kyle Seager (3B) but bats lefty, Mike Morse (1B/OF), K Morales (1B/DH) #, J Bay (OF)
LAA: Bourjos (CF), Trout (CF), Trumbo, A Callaspo # (3B) would cost 2 arms and 2 legs for just 1, and these guys are all part of the Angels' longterm plans.
Some multiple player deals could include:
Young and C Lee (or Papelbon) from Philly
A Ramirez and Gallardo from Milw.
Rios and Crain from CWS
Headley and Street from SD
Im also looking abead to next year as well. after adding up our payroll and including Lester, because at 13m I think they will stick with him. Arb cases and possible offseason signigs, those 2 contracts wont give is any flexability. Plus depleting some prospects that are vital for the long term.