In response to Promise4you2's comment:
In response to makonikyman's comment:
I'm still guessing that by the trade deadline, our two biggest needs will still be:
1) A solid starting pitcher
2) A RH'd middle order power hitterI'm not saying these are our weakest links going forward, but here are our worst positional OPS positions so far this year:
1) 3B .696
2) CF .732
3) RF .750
4) SS .759 (although this is, I believe, the 4th best SS OPS in MLB)
5) LF .781
We have 5 solid starters, the worst ERA among our starters is 4.40. As your numbers imply, we have no material weaknesses, at least right now.
I know. The numbers don't show we need a SP, but it almost always happens by the deadline.
Our biggest weakness on paper right now looks like 3B and CF, but Ellsbury has heated up, and the emmergence of Iggy as a 3B option has upgraded the outlook there as well.
I doubt we try for a RF'er with all that money tied up in Shane, so it does look like a stand pat team at this moment in time. A closer is a possibility, but we should know more about Baily by the end of July.
Let's hope we stay healthy. Lord knows we had more than our share the last few seasons, so a relatively low injury season would ne nice for once.
We still have over 7 weeks to the deadline, so a lot can happen by then. I hope we don't have a SP injury or implosion, but it's hard for me to imagine all 5 keeping this up for 7 more weeks, let alone the rest of the season.
I'd be tickled pink to end up wrong on this, but to me, you can never have too much pitching.
Our 2 biggest weaknessEs are Jon Lester and Andrew Baily. Not F Doubrant...when are you going to admit that?
Lester is struggling right now- no doubt, but you can try all you want, but I won't make definitive judgements on small sample sizes.
I have never understood why so many posters look to such tiny sample sizes to determine who is better than another. As you remember, I cautioned those posters saying Lester was going to win the Cy Young after just 4 starts and 5 earned runs. I'm not going to now judge Lester harshly over 5 bad starts in a row. That's not to say I am not concerned: I am, and that's another reason why I'd love for us to get another solid, durable SP.
All of my suggestions for getting another quality SP have not involved Doubront. In fact, I'd hardly be talking about Doubront, if posters like yourself didn't keep bringing it up.
Before this season began, I was arguing for a top of rotation starter, not because of Doubront's sketchiness, but more because I distrusted the chances that both Lester and Buchholz would stay healthy all year and perform near the top of their ability. I'm not sure if you remember, but I was for trading Lester to KC for Myers, so I'm not just about trading Doubront. One reason for wanting to trade Doubront is that the value you keep talking about, like low cost, long team control, and nasty stuff, is exactly what makes a nice return in value possible. Trading Lester would not net much at this point, anyway. I know you don't agree with my concerns about Doubront's attitude and motivational issues, but it is what it is, and I'm just not so sure why you seem so obsessed with that opinion of mine. I'm not pretending to be a MR. know-it-all, and I've admitted to more mistakes on this site than every poster combined, so can we just move on?
I'm glad Doubront is doing well. I have never said I thought he would do poorly this year or all year long. He has some great stuff. He had some nice stretches last year where he looked like he could become that 3rd starter we needed, and perhaps someday he will. I'll be happy to eat crow when and if that happens, however, asking me to annoint him our #2 or 3 starter ahead of Lester or even Lackey and Dempster based on a few good games in a row, a BB rate higher than last year, and a WHIP over 6 just isn't going to happen soon enough for your liking.
Bailey is struggling now, and I would not argue that the closer position is not a weak link on this team right now. He has had some rough outtings, but his 1.08 WHIP is a good sign considering he missed time with an injury and had to rehab on the fly.
I'd love to get a quality closer, but they don't come cheap, and I'm not for trading away top prospects for a closer. If Bailey keeps having a hard time, my mind might change. The next 7 weeks should shake a lot of things out and lengthen some sample sizes to a point where some decisions may have to be made.
Yes, Lester's struggles have gone beyong this 5 game sample size. He struggled at the end of 2011 and through most of 2012 as well. You may be right: he may be our weakest SP link right now and going forward. However to be defending Doubront, who has an ERA 0.70 more than Lester and a WHIP about 0.350 more than Lester is a bit of a stretch. I'm hoping Lester turns it around, just as I am hoping Doubront pitches to his potential.
You never seize to amaze me. In your first paragraph, you use the "small sample size" of his last 5 starts, then...in your last paragraph you acknowledge the "larger sample size" from 2011 to present in regards to Lester. Which one is it? You go back and forth on every topic with various stats and differing opinions that when a player or team for that matter does ANYTHING you can't help but be right. You're the master of SPIN...at least you think you are. Here's a spin on sample sizes...let's remove Lester's 6-0 start to this yr when you and the rest were touting him for ACE status, because EVERYONE knows that pitchers are WAY ahead of hitters the first month of the season, right? If we do that...Jon Lester is an astounding 10 - 20 with an era well north of 5. Even with his 6-0 start he is only 16-20 with an era slightly under 5. That is a large sample size covering close to 50 starts. Jon Lester is a 4/5 guy and has been for awhile now. Those are the facts.
While he may not be an ace, he is much better (on a Large) sample size then you are giving him credit for. He is also in the top ten winners in MLB for the last 5 years, imagine that?