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In response to djcbuffum's comment:
(1) This is a team with the second best record in baseball. We don't have any needs for the 2013 regular season, except to fortify depth in case one player or another goes down with injury, or some of the struggling players can't snap out of their funk.
(2) Jon Lester will pick it up a bit as the season goes on, but if he ends the season with an ERA north of 4.00, the FO can't go into 2014 thinking of him as a co-ace. By the end of this season, there will be a clear drop from his best years, and any reason to hope he can get it together will be outweighed by the lengthy period of time that he hasn't. Given that Bucholz' is prone to injury, it really will be time for the Sox to bring in the big game pitcher that they've been lacking ever since Beckett tanked, Schilling retired, and Lester lost his mojo. Maybe it's Webster, maybe it's Cliff Lee, maybe it's someone else.
And if Lester can't pick it up, I will also be worried about our ability to last a seven game series with Texas and/or Detroit. It might be worth exploring a way to strengthen our rotation at the trade deadline, just looking ahead to a post-season berth. That's problematic, of course, because who do you demote? You don't want a six-month rental who is going to push out any of the guys who have a long-term future with the Sox. The FO will have a delicate balance to make.
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while I generally agree with your statement and applaud you for not freaking out like everyone else there is one thing I would like to critique.
Jon Lester is not an Ace.
Any argument that jon Lester is an ace starts with how good he has BEEN or how good he CAN be. But there are a lot of #3 #4 #5 starters in the league who have ace stuff (if we talk about pure stuff). One thing that makes an ace an ace is consistency. Yes even an ace has a bad start here and there but that is usually a start or two during the year. Jon Lester while good at times has been largely inconsistent the last 2 years going back to the end of 2011.
On his best night, he is as good as anyone out there but he is just way to inconsistant and has been for a while now to even be considered in the conversation as an ace.
So actually I pretty much agree with you, lol.
If you've noticed the last several years the Red Sox have drafted a LOT of pitchers; their drafts have been particularly top heavy in pitching with the top 10 picks. Not to mention they have traded for RDLR and Webster. I wonder if this plays into the general failure of the team to sign pitchers in free agency. FWIW the general trend has been bad in signing big time pitchers in free agency. I think the Sox are looking to build a pitching staff from within.
The good news here is the Sox have one of the most stacked minor league systems they have had in a while with a LOT of pitching depth. The bad news is while a lot of that talent is CLOSE to the bigs, it's not certain that they can come up and contribute right now.
Webster may be a very good #2 but he might be that guy who struggles for a while before he puts it together. Ranaudo, Barnes, Owens, all very close but not quite there yet. Rubby De La Rosa seems like he has really put it together and turned it on and might be able to contribute right now. But he is still recovering from tommy john and will likely be shut down later this summer.
Best case scenario is Doubront continues his upward trend, Lakey bounces back and pitches as good as he has, and Buccholz is fine (I think he is 100% fine and the team is just babying him, but that is just a guess) and Lester at least sprinkles in some good starts here and there or maybe even heats up for a month.
I think we are saying the same thing. The FO went into 2013 talking about Lester-Bucholz as "co-aces." It was a bit of a stretch to think of either as an "ace" then, and it's pretty ridiculous to talk about Lester as an "ace" now (jury is still out on Bucholz).
is CC an ACE?
I'd say he's an ace....I don't know if he's top 5, but I'd probably put him in the top ten.
Hypothetically you can say the top 30 pitchers in baseball are #1 starters; which makes the standards a little lower than what most in here would guess. If that definition is at all subjective then to me it's more like the top 5-10 guys. But the again I'm a fan of a first division team so I have high expectations.