Troy Tulowitzki

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    Troy Tulowitzki

    Pete Abraham mentioned, Tulo is looking for a change of scenery.

    A two time Gold Glover, who had been over ,900 OPS three times, and finished in the top ten in MVP voting four times.

    He's only 27 years old, and carrys a big right handed bat, and is a bigtime player, although his post season stats aren't exactly great.

    He makes 5.5 million, which is a steal for someone of his ilk. He's been injured most of this season with a groin injury ,and the Rockies have found a nice replacement in Josh Rutledge.

    Could be the time to approach Colorado about moving Tulo.

    Imagine him in a Sox uniform?

    Now we'll get Softy calling him an overpriced bum. Whatever.

     
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    Re: Troy Tulowitzki

    In response to rightymclefty's comment:

    Pete Abraham mentioned, Tulo is looking for a change of scenery.

    A two time Gold Glover, who had been over ,900 OPS three times, and finished in the top ten in MVP voting four times.

    He's only 27 years old, and carrys a big right handed bat, and is a bigtime player, although his post season stats aren't exactly great.

    He makes 5.5 million, which is a steal for someone of his ilk. He's been injured most of this season with a groin injury ,and the Rockies have found a nice replacement in Josh Rutledge.

    Could be the time to approach Colorado about moving Tulo.

    Imagine him in a Sox uniform?

    Now we'll get Softy calling him an overpriced bum. Whatever.

     


    Troy Tulowitzki has eight years and $146 million (plus incentives) remaining on his contract if he is traded, including a 2013 salary of $10 million, according to Cot's Baseball Contracts:

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=125

     
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    According to Baseball Reference:

    "Signed thru 2020, 7 yrs/$45M (08-14), 6 yrs/$118M (15-20) & 21 team option "

    They were going to pay this to a 31 year old LF, why not to a SS who is only 27 year old?

    I think his position makes him more valuable than either Gonzalez or Crawford, both signed to similar contracts.

     

     
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    Let's get Carlos Gonzalez to come with him. We'll have two of the three holes that we've had for 2 years filled. All we'll need to do is get a back-up catcher to replace Saltpeter.

     
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    In the unlikely event Colorado makes Troy Tulowitzki available, the Rockies probably would be looking for pitching in return. The Red Sox, as much as any team, don't have the surplus pitching to make a credible offer for Tulowitzki, who in July was ranked as baseball's 11th highest trade value despite his 2012 injuries:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2012-trade-value-15-11/

    Dustin Pedroia at No. 34 was the only Red Sox player ranked among the Top 50 trade values.

    Tulowitzki would be a great fit for the Red Sox (and many other teams), but an acquiring team would need to surrender signficant value in return.

     
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    Hill, possibly a third team in a trade equasion?

    Tulo is one player worth looking into. As I said, they already have a replacement in Ruitledge, who is one of the better rookies in the NL.

     
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    The Rockies need pitching, pitching, and more pitching. It would have to involve a third team and a bunch of our top prospects to even approach an offer they'd think about.

     
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:

    Let's get Carlos Gonzalez to come with him. We'll have two of the three holes that we've had for 2 years filled. All we'll need to do is get a back-up catcher to replace Saltpeter.

     




    Carlos Gonzalez in July was ranked with the 27th highest trade value:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2012-trade-value-25-21/

    The Rockies would demand a stiff return if Gonzalez is made available in a trade.

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    The Rockies need pitching, pitching, and more pitching. It would have to involve a third team and a bunch of our top prospects to even approach an offer they'd think about.

     


    +1

     
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    Re: Troy Tulowitzki

    ...and where did Tulo say he wants "a change"?

     
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    Pete Abraham mentioned it today. No related source in the story.

     
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    In response to rightymclefty's comment:

     

    Pete Abraham mentioned it today. No related source in the story.

     



    I believe you, but I'm not sure I believe any baseball writer anymore.

     
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    don't want him.....isn't he injured alot?...seem to remember him being out before also. I always worry about that Rockies altitude element too.

     
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    From a Denver Post article:

    "This is the fourth major injury he has suffered since 2008, missing significant time with a torn left quadriceps, lacerated right hand, broken left wrist and the current groin injury that he first injured in the season's second game and later aggravated on May 30 against the Dodgers."

     

    4 major injuries in 4 years.....this is the kind of signing we don't make

     
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    In response to Iceman4's comment:

    From a Denver Post article:

    "This is the fourth major injury he has suffered since 2008, missing significant time with a torn left quadriceps, lacerated right hand, broken left wrist and the current groin injury that he first injured in the season's second game and later aggravated on May 30 against the Dodgers."

     

    4 major injuries in 4 years.....this is the kind of signing we don't make


    Yep, Just Got Back In The Lineup This Past Monday, Been Out Since May 30,

    Surgery Left Side Groin, Scare Tissue,




     
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    Lascerated hand, was an accident. Broken wrist was a hit buy a pitch. So, two of the four could have happened to anyone.

    Who'd want a player, who'd hands down, be the best player on the Red Sox, from day one?

     
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    Re: Troy Tulowitzki

    In response to rightymclefty's comment:

    Pete Abraham mentioned, Tulo is looking for a change of scenery.

    A two time Gold Glover, who had been over ,900 OPS three times, and finished in the top ten in MVP voting four times.

    He's only 27 years old, and carrys a big right handed bat, and is a bigtime player, although his post season stats aren't exactly great.

    He makes 5.5 million, which is a steal for someone of his ilk. He's been injured most of this season with a groin injury ,and the Rockies have found a nice replacement in Josh Rutledge.

    Could be the time to approach Colorado about moving Tulo.

    Imagine him in a Sox uniform?

    Now we'll get Softy calling him an overpriced bum. Whatever.

     



      Buyer beware, Troy numbers helped by playing in Colorado. I love the kid when he plays but in "08-101 GP, "10-122 GP, and so far this year only 47 games played. He seems to be the kind of athlete, which I don't understand, who gets injured far to often, and at such a young age.

     
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    "In his Major League career Tulowitzki has already missed 168 games due to injury in a little over 4 seasons with the Colorado Rockies"

     

     

    no..no ..and no

     
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    Like I said, one was an accident, and the other was a HBP. Two others, I'll give you.

     
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    168 games/4 seasons...accident or not....he's accident prone. Good ball player, but not what we need right now.

     
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    168 games/4 seasons...accident or not....he's accident prone. Good ball player, but not what we need right now.

     




    As a point of reference, Troy Tulowitzki has played 463 games over the past four seasons while Jacoby Ellsbury has played 392 games over the same period.

     
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    Re: Troy Tulowitzki

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    Lascerated hand, was an accident. Broken wrist was a hit buy a pitch. So, two of the four could have happened to anyone.

    Who'd want a player, who'd hands down, be the best player on the Red Sox, from day one?

     



    Kind of stop wanting everyone else's players.  You could probably get anyone you wanted if you dumped the farm.  It just wouldn't improve us in the long term.

     
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    Tulowitzki might want a change of scenery, and he has a skillset the Sox should be drooling over. The only baseball ability he lacks is the ability to stay on the field.  (Dealbreaker? Maybe)

     

    I’d love him in Boston, but what will Colorado want? Fans will have their List of Untouchables, including Bogaerts, Bradley, Barnes, etc. The problem is – these are exactly the guys Colorado will want. One of those rationalized lists – where people decide Colorado really needs Iglesias, Aceves, and, say, Saltalamacchia wont cut it. If you want Tulowitzki, be prepared to give up names you don’t want to surrender.

     

    The Untouchable List should be narrowed to Bogaerts. End of List. I’ll take Tulowitzki and his exorbitant salary over Jackie Bradley any day. I’ll even throw in Webster to get the ball rolling. (I question Websters stamina, anyway, so why not?)

     

    I know someone will say We can’t trade Bradley. We need him for when Ellsbury leaves. While true, I would rather have Tulowitzki and Kalish than Bradley and Iglesias. In fact, I think a lot of fans overrate Bradley, whose rocket-like ascension through the low minors while impressive, leaves questions about how much of it is attributable to his advanced age for that league. Only 17 players in the entire Carolina League were over Bradleys listed age of 22, with the oldest being 26. To be fair, Bradley is not the oldest 22 year old in the league, so its not like he is the 18th oldest guy. Still, playing against a lot of 19 and 20 year old players certainly helped him look better.

     

    This doesn’t mean I think he will be a flop, but it does certainly make him the guy I would trade instead of Bogaerts.

    And before anyone asks, yes, Colorado will ask for at least one elite prospect. If you have to give up one, my choice would be Bradley over Bogaerts.

     

     
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    Re: Troy Tulowitzki

    Nope, not worth it IMO...Good player, but too much $$ and years. And realistically it was only 1 injury that could happen to anyone. One was self-inflicted, 2 were injury-prone types and only one (HBP) was like the ones Ells got.

     
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