Re: Valentine needs to be fired
posted at 9/4/2012 3:08 PM EDT
In response to michaelsjr's comment:
For those of you who keep insisting Valentine "had his chance"..I keep wondering when anybody ever thought he was given or allowed managerial control. The more of the comments I read in the media articles lately - especially by BV himself, the more I am convinced the team has been micro-managed from FO and BV is more or less manager in name only. He's been hamstrung all year 6 ways from Sunday. This season has been no indication whatsoever of what he could have done under even decent circumstances. But everybody wants him run out of town before he is even given a fair chance. Boston will be viewed as somewhere not only good players avoid, but managers as well.
With apologies to JoeB, I'm "borrowing" his list;
1-Announcing that Doubront had no out pitch. Can someone explain what he hoped to accomplish with that? Break the kid's confidence? Gut his trade value?
2-Announcing that Bard wasn't throwing enough changeups in ST. Probably about 95% of the world was wondering who was it that was supposed to tell Bard to throw more changeups? Wasn't that the manager's job? Couldn't BV had simply pulled Bard and the catcher aside after the first inning and told them how many changeups he wanted each inning?
Then the regular season started.
1-In the very first game, he chose to pitch to future HOF Fielder with a guy on 3rd and one out, rather than load the bases for future journeyman Young.
2-In a key early series v TB, Bard loads the bases in the 7th with a walk, single, and walk (a 4-pitch walk). Not only does he leave Bard in, the only guys warming up in the BP were Albers and Thomas. Even Longoria criticized the move, saying he was surprised to see Bard stay in. I don't remember an opposing player ever questioning a manager's move. Not surprisingly, Bard walked in the winning run on 4 pitches.
Then, in a move I have only seen once in 45 years of following BB, Valentine didn't know who was pitching for the other team. And this is how bad it was. I questioned the lineup on another site. I said it almost looked like Valentine didn't know that Hendricks was a righty. Two hours later, the lineup was changed.
A manager has to have a hypothetical lineup posted a week in advance. How else do you know how to give guys days off, take advantage of matchups, etc? You should know every matchup for every opposing pitcher that you are facing 7 days in advance.
Having Aceves pitch almost 150 pitches in the space of three games and costing the Sox a game by running Aceves out for a 6 out close attempt.
Showing up for a game in Oakland after his players.
Help me out. Which of these gaffs were the result of the FO micro-managing Bobby V?