Varitek Says He's Not Quite Dead Yet

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    [QUOTE]But that's just 50/50. Or is it voo-doo?
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    Kind of reminds me of Midnight In The Garden of Good and Evil.
     
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    Now your being proven wrong by Wake

    You are right. He pitched well, tonight, and sports an ERA that is near the 5 plus it has been since the last half of 2009. Where I was wrong is not what a great pitcher he is, but that he hasn't had the lapband surgery I said he would have. The man looks great. He belongs;) 

    Once again, you must not have watched the game. Par for the course.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Varitek Says He's Not Quite Dead Yet : I agree 100%..The stats dont lie..But I would like to see another way to rate catchers besides CERA, just to help the CREA case.
    Posted by southpaw777[/QUOTE]

    There was a thread dedicated to it last year.
    A CATCHER'S RELEVANCE was measured by WHIP, HR/IP, SO/BB ratio, SO/IP, BB/IP, BABIP, hits/IP, etc. Everything went in the same direction as CERA except SO/IP, which says something about the supposed importance of SO's
    and how it's but a fraction of inducing the game's 27 outs.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Varitek Says He's Not Quite Dead Yet : There was a thread dedicated to it last year. A CATCHER'S RELEVANCE was measured by WHIP, HR/IP, SO/BB ratio, SO/IP, BB/IP, BABIP, hits/IP, etc. Everything went in the same direction as CERA except SO/IP, which says something about the supposed importance of SO's and how it's but a fraction of inducing the game's 27 outs.
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    Dillon Gee, a rookie of the yr candidate on the Mets, had a 95 MPH FB, hurt his arm; throws slower now, and is better than he ever was; see Steve Stone.
     
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    Oh, I could name plenty - and have. Many are in the HOF.
    Tommy John is a great example, and he oughta be there also.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Yes, harness all the numbers came out on the same side as CERA, except SO/9. The other "stat" you didn't mention here was W-L. 

    Look at VTek vs "the others".
    Look at Mathis vs Napoli.
    Look at Posada vs "the others".
    Look at VMart vs "the others".
    The trends go on and on and on and on like fliping heads 40 straight times.

    "You can stick your little pins in that voodoo doll
    I'm very sorry baby, doesn't look like me at all.."
     
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    You're right, Moon. I forgot corresponding team win-loss records that favor weak-hitting catchers who get more out of their pitchers. The trend is constant.
    With Tek, it's over 12 years...
    .600 when he starts - appx .500 when he doesn't.
     
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    [QUOTE]You're right, Moon . I forgot corresponding team win-loss records that favor weak-hitting catchers who get more out of their pitchers. The trend is constant. With Tek, it's over 12 years... .600 when he starts - appx .500 when he doesn't.
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    Don't tell He Who Cannot Be Named.
     
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    He knows. He'd call it voo-doo if the trend lasted 100 years.
    Remember: "Catchers have nothing to do with pitching".
     
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    Varitek can play at least 2 more years in this role if he wants to.
     
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    Re: Varitek Says He's Not Quite Dead Yet

    Never thought Tek was  dead  or  dying ...  He was injured,  going through a rough divorce..

    Always thought he was an inexpensive  alternative  who could  catch  65-75  games,  hit   a bit,  mentor Salty and calm the staff.. 

    Love to have em both back  next year.

    The Key to TEKS year  so far has been   that when he batted   after  Doubleplay MacDonald (5th) and before Cameron (7th)     he was no longer the most likely easy out of the inning..
    Good on ya Tekkie !
     
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