Very Beatable Team

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    Very Beatable Team

    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?

     
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    Too true

     
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    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?

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    I've coming to the line of thought that it is none of the above.

    We are 9-7 with Victorino starting and 11-15 when he doesn't.  It's a small sample size, but it makes sense from a fit perspective.  We just don't have a decent replacement.

     
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    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?

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    I've coming to the line of thought that it is none of the above.

    We are 9-7 with Victorino starting and 11-15 when he doesn't.  It's a small sample size, but it makes sense from a fit perspective.  We just don't have a decent replacement.

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    IMO thats overly simplistic. There are four position players currently on the 25 man roster (or were until WMB went to the DL) hitting at or below the Mendoza line. One guy is not going to make the difference for the entire team, but four of the 13 position players sure can.

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    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?

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    Timely hitting? How about no hitting, except for Ortiz. Opposing pitchers must salivate when they know they're going to be facing that line-up.

     
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    Btw, just not having WMB in the game, improves the line-up.

     
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    Right now, I would pitch around Ortiz AND Naps (esp Ortiz) WHENEVER possible.

    This is like the Rays w/ Longoria - no one else comes close in that line up.

     
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    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?





    Timely hitting? How about no hitting, except for Ortiz. Opposing pitchers must salivate when they know they're going to be facing that line-up.


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    I am wondering how much better we'd be with the same team we had last year including, of course, Ells & Drew. Everyone is predicting the Tigers to win the American league division and World Series too but it must have been mirrors we used as they were favorites last year when we beat them in playoffs. And this year they don't have Fielder...but he was a non-factor against us last year. Our pitching has been inconsistent and our hitting, except for Papi has been almost non existent.


    What can we do with AJ, Bogaerts, Gomes, Sizemore all in the .230-.240 range & then our real problem...Bradley .200, Middy .197, Ross .182 & Nava .149.


     

     
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    Very Beatable Team

    not if U R a lefty

    but  if U R RHP........yikes

    when facing left-handed starters sox R 10-4

    10-18 record against right-handed pitching

    that's a wow

     
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    OT Yanks leading late  Sea Dog final Win 2-1. Betts 1for3 with a walk.  anyone got report on his fielding?

     
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    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?

     

     

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    Timely hitting? How about no hitting, except for Ortiz. Opposing pitchers must salivate when they know they're going to be facing that line-up.

     

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    I am wondering how much better we'd be with the same team we had last year including, of course, Ells & Drew. Everyone is predicting the Tigers to win the American league division and World Series too but it must have been mirrors we used as they were favorites last year when we beat them in playoffs. And this year they don't have Fielder...but he was a non-factor against us last year. Our pitching has been inconsistent and our hitting, except for Papi has been almost non existent.

     

    What can we do with AJ, Bogaerts, Gomes, Sizemore all in the .230-.240 range & then our real problem...Bradley .200, Middy .197, Ross .182 & Nava .149.

     

     

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    Well, it helped the SOX that Cabrera wasn't close to 100%.

     
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    Lets face it, the days of Sox scoring above 5 runs frequently belong to the past... 

     
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    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?

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    Very little.  This team is a bargain basement bore.

     
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    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?

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    I've coming to the line of thought that it is none of the above.

    We are 9-7 with Victorino starting and 11-15 when he doesn't.  It's a small sample size, but it makes sense from a fit perspective.  We just don't have a decent replacement.

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    [object HTMLDivElement]    I think that is kind of a stretch. Kind of grasping for answers. Shane is a good ballplayer. Not all that much of a difference maker. Our problems go deeper than that. The majority of the lineup is not producing as expected and as needed.

     
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    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?

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    Very little.  This team is a bargain basement bore.

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    +100!

     
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    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?

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    I've coming to the line of thought that it is none of the above.

    We are 9-7 with Victorino starting and 11-15 when he doesn't.  It's a small sample size, but it makes sense from a fit perspective.  We just don't have a decent replacement.

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    [object HTMLDivElement]    I think that is kind of a stretch. Kind of grasping for answers. Shane is a good ballplayer. Not all that much of a difference maker. Our problems go deeper than that. The majority of the lineup is not producing as expected and as needed.

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    The FO overrated the rookie players. You can get way with one rookie in the lineup, but three holding down major positions is tough to do. They will not bring up the catcher from Pawtucket because if he flops like Jackie Bradley, Middlebrooks, and Beaggarts the press will bury the FO. 

     
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    Team sucks. 2014 = a lost season. Been saying it all spring, and have been thinking it since Oct. 31, 2013. Will not be a serious contender til next year--unless they go get someone like Stanton, which is not likely just now.

     

     
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    Holt is not the answer at 3rd base either. Larry and Ben scre&ed the pooch this year with this team. Now they are in panic mode to do something that should have been done in the winter meetings. 

     
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    Team sucks. 2014 = a lost season. Been saying it all spring, and have been thinking it since Oct. 31, 2013. Will not be a serious contender til next year--unless they go get someone like Stanton, which is not likely just now.


     




    I said it too and agree 200 % with you. They fell asleep at the Winter a meetings patting themselves on the back for a team that seriously overachieved. They overrated their rookies which is a big mistake. JBJ cannot hit and should have been part of a package for a right handed hitter at the end of last year and Ellsbury should have been signed before Pedroia who had another year to go.

     
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    OT Yanks leading late  Sea Dog final Win 2-1. Betts 1for3 with a walk.  anyone got report on his fielding?

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    They are not going to bring him up, because if he flops Luchinno will look like a complete imbecile.

     
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    Recall how last season was supposed to be the Sox' 'bridge year?' Funny how that's all worked out! Horrific in '12, wonderful in '13, back to horrific this season. I agree with a previous poster that the team rested on its laurels over the winter, doing virtually nothing to improve the lineup.


     


    Yes, they had to, finally, see how Bradley Jr., Bogaerts, Middlebrooks can/could play, but, as usual, Middlebrooks is on the DL -- AGAIN -- and Bradley Jr is over-matched at the plate. Bogaerts is a long-to-go work in progress. Too, with Victorino questionable on a daily basis, and Sizemore still recovering from the scrap heap, well, there just is no real pop in the lineup.


     


    It behooves Red Sox Nation to long remember '04, '07 and '13, for the next decade or longer look to be seasons filled with those distant memories of the rotten Sox teams of the 50's, early 60's. We have been immensely spoiled; now we'll learn what it's like to be a Kansas City Royal fan!!!!!!

     
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    Recall how last season was supposed to be the Sox' 'bridge year?' Funny how that's all worked out! Horrific in '12, wonderful in '13, back to horrific this season. I agree with a previous poster that the team rested on its laurels over the winter, doing virtually nothing to improve the lineup.

     

     

     

    Yes, they had to, finally, see how Bradley Jr., Bogaerts, Middlebrooks can/could play, but, as usual, Middlebrooks is on the DL -- AGAIN -- and Bradley Jr is over-matched at the plate. Bogaerts is a long-to-go work in progress. Too, with Victorino questionable on a daily basis, and Sizemore still recovering from the scrap heap, well, there just is no real pop in the lineup.

     

     

     

    It behooves Red Sox Nation to long remember '04, '07 and '13, for the next decade or longer look to be seasons filled with those distant memories of the rotten Sox teams of the 50's, early 60's. We have been immensely spoiled; now we'll learn what it's like to be a Kansas City Royal fan!!!!!!

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    Exaggerate much? Yeah, this team stinks, but our farm system is going to produce some good players over the next few years. Its been 14 years since there was a World Series repeat for any team, and things were different then. We will compete for a playoff spot again in a couple of years.

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    I said at the beginning of the year that this team isn't going anywhere with an OF like they have. Everyone jumped on me, but when you have an outfield that can't produce, you can't compete.

     
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    Lets face it with the issues of Center Third Pitching and lack of timely hitting how much expectation can one have?

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    This is all becoming sooooooooo funny. Was I really ? .....Really the only guy on here that seen this all happening at the start of spring training?.... Yes they were beatable from day one.

     
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    Re: Very Beatable Team

    Every team is "beatable". Some teams are doing very well right now, but it is a 162 game season, and every team goes through rough spots.

    I still have confidence in this team, but we need a spark real soon. Pedey is doing well in the lead-off spot, but it shortened our line-up, and now we are hurting in the middle (and bottom).

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