Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

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    Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 1:16 AM EDT

    BA .330 OBP .389  OPS .935  4 Homers 23 RBI's

    Very painful to see the catchers we have. Salty has improved, but that's not saying much. RM is settling in on Varitek.
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 1:56 AM EDT

    Like his normal career numbers?

    He's played 11 games less than that part-timer Jed guy.

    The few games he has played, most have not been as a catcher.
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 1:59 AM EDT

    What does normal high level even mean, other than it being an oxymoron?

    And tonight was Varitek's third shutout of the season, just saying. Salty has two, and Alex Avila has four. Three catchers are outperforming Martinez, and it might be because they are actually trusted to catch more than thirty games a season while being paid $13 million.
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 2:05 AM EDT

    VMart has played full MLB season. Lowrie never has.
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 2:12 AM EDT

    VMart has caught 7 games, despite missing time on the DL.

    Penny doing much better than Lackey. Penny is one of the good guys.
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 7:19 AM EDT

    Yeah..thats right..VMart was on the DL already this year...and yet you whine about Jed..Your only comeback? jed hasnt played a full season befoe, Vmart has..FAIL..Nice way to avoid things though..what a tool
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 8:02 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers:
    VMart has played full MLB season. Lowrie never has.
    Posted by majorleague



    Yes he has but probably won't play a full season as a catcher again in the MLB
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 8:07 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers:
    What does normal high level even mean, other than it being an oxymoron?

    And tonight was Varitek's third shutout of the season, just saying. Salty has two, and Alex Avila has four. Three catchers are outperforming Martinez, and it might be because they are actually trusted to catch more than thirty games a season while being paid $13 million.
    Posted by StatsFromLouie



    Is that anything like a Yanqui fan always posting on a Red Sox site?

    I will admit, your post is a quality one, but still ...

      A pot calling a kettle ....


     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 8:11 AM EDT

    Victor's 2011 numbers when he DH's: 397/453/676
    Victor's 2011 numbers when he catches: 172/242/241

     
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 8:17 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers:
    Victor's 2011 numbers when he DH's: 397/453/676
    Victor's 2011 numbers when he catches: 172/242/241  
    Posted by Hfxsoxnut


       Vewwwy intewesting .....
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 9:36 AM EDT

    So the Jason Bay argument ran out of steam...on to Victor!

    I love making conclusions after 6 weeks in a 6 month season.
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 9:41 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers:
    In Response to Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers : Yes he has but probably won't play a full season as a catcher again in the MLB
    Posted by SpikeCunn5


    V-Mart won't play a full major league season at any position. Who remembers when Softy the Carnival Monkey tauted that V-Mart was worth at least 13 million because the player was a top 5 first baseman? What a mistake our organization made by not resigning the player to be our every day first baseman.

    The A-Gon kid that replaced him has shown thus far that he has no future and was a terrible signing!!!

    Comparing a part time catcher that has been behind the plate for 7 or 8 games to our current catching platoon and/or Jed Lowrie is far beyond absurd, even for the Carnival Monkey.
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 9:49 AM EDT

    I didnt know Martinez could pitch at all, let alone pitch a shutout...
    Monkey suit preventing you from typing accurately, or is your vision obstructed by the mask?
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 10:04 AM EDT

    Did anyone else find it "painful" to watch Varitek catch a shutout last night? Hmmm.

    It has become blatantly obvious that the clown in the monkey suit is not a Red Sox fan. What fan in their right mind would post such a nonsense thread right after Beckett pitched a shutout gem against the Yankees with Varitek behind the plate.

    Maybe it just bothers the writer that the "Texas Fat Man" won another game with the "Wheelchair" catcher behind the plate and "Jitterbug Jake" continued to be a relevant part of the offense. If only Wakefield had been called upon to close out the game!!!

    Could have been a complete slam dunk of the soft one.
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 10:06 AM EDT

    Common guys - VMart batting 5th and playing at CA-DH-1B would not be a bad thing, Ortiz batting 6th, and Carl Crawford here or not here.  
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 10:15 AM EDT

    Maybe you should move to his current team's forum since most here could give two s**ts

     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 10:18 AM EDT

    VMart or Adrian Gonzalez?  Can't have both.

    That's a no-brainer.  Loved Martinez in a Sox uni, but seriously, Gonzalez is a franchise player. 
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 10:19 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers:
    Common guys - VMart batting 5th and playing at CA-DH-1B would not be a bad thing, Ortiz batting 6th, and Carl Crawford here or not here.  
    Posted by BurritoT


    Guess what, V-Mart isn't here and what could have been really doesn't matter. The player was defensively challenged behind the plate and only possesses average stats at the first base position, deeming him too expensive there and way overpriced both in terms of salary and years at the DH slot.

    The only value to this team would have been if the player was an adequate answer at the catching spot, which he clearly was not, especially with his pricetag. We tried that, remember?


     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 10:21 AM EDT

    Never judge long term contracts by their short term results.  Martinez was not let go because of fear of how he would do in April/May of 2011.

    However, if you are convinced that the first month and a half of 2011 tell the whole story, you would have no problem with the Sox trading Dustin Pedroia for Darwin Barney, right?
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 10:31 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers:
    Never judge long term contracts by their short term results.  Martinez was not let go because of fear of how he would do in April/May of 2011. However, if you are convinced that the first month and a half of 2011 tell the whole story, you would have no problem with the Sox trading Dustin Pedroia for Darwin Barney, right?
    Posted by notin


    If we base V-Mart's contract on April/May 2011 numbers then the player still isn't worth the pricetag. He's only appeared in 2/3 of the games played thus far and will probably never play a full season again as he declines quickly, which most catchers have a tendency to do.

    A note to Softy .................How is Joe Mauer performing thus far?
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 10:50 AM EDT

    The Joe Mauer contract, like the Carl Crawford contract are not worthy deals for the team(s).  The difference here is that the RS can afford 4 or 5 of those types of deals and the Twins (who cannot carry more than 1 of these big contracts) just screwed themselves for years to come.
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 12:43 PM EDT

    He's saying what the real experts said this offseasn. keep vmart.  In typical sox fan fashion most people turned on him..

    Why do you weird fans always turn on FA?  VMart was cheap and coulda/shoulda been kept.  This season would be alot different if he was. 
    Hopefully it won't matter in the end, but wmart over salty and a rookie in the OF would be a beautiful thing right now...
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 12:57 PM EDT

    Few thoughts:

    The Mauer deal was a unique one because usually a catcher's contract value is actually depressed by his position because of the wear and tear. Uniquely Joe's inflated. Hard to see where the deal ages great.

    FA get "turned on" in as much as their pros and cons are aired during the process. It's a natural process and not really turning on the player. Now Damon was "turned on" but signing with the NYY will do that.

    Victor is a real solid player but whether you are in the Harness camp and believe his role in Detroit is because of his lack of game calling skills or that the Tigers are using the platoon so that they are able to extend Victor's career, that role was far less likely in Boston with Ortiz at DH and A-Gon when health being a 158 game starter.

    Yes the OP is a distraction from another great Beckett start and that Lowrie scored what turned out top be the winning run on an RBI hit from Ellsbury.
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 1:05 PM EDT

    Lowrie scored what turned out to be the winning run on an RBI hit from Ellsbury.

    Great point, I forgot to mention Lowrie!!
     

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    Re: Victor Martinez Pitches Shutout & Hitting Like His Normal High Level Career Numbers

    posted at 5/15/2011 1:27 PM EDT

    Ugh, if only we found a way to re-sign him.  How amazing would that lineup be?