Re: Wade Boggs says he wants his #26 to be retired by the Red Sox.
posted at 4/11/2013 1:51 PM EDT
In response to LloydDobler's comment:
My take is a player should spend his entire career with the organzation, or at least finish his career there, to be eligible to have his number retired.
I disagree with this criteria -- especially in this day and age. For instance, Dwight Evans. He played 18 years -- something like that -- and just one with another team. I'd retire that before I'd retire a guy who played five or six years with the Sox then retired but played the first 10-plus years with another team.
On Felger and Mazz, Felger IMO was putting too much on winning champions. I'm not going to penalize a great player simply because he wasn't surrounded by enough good teammates.
My view is:
A. He has to be an all-time great.
B. He has to have played with the Sox for the majority of his career and not just 51 percent -- a great majority.
Someone who makes A & B makes it a no-brainer.
However, there's a C.
C. The first two rules can be flexible in specific situations. Meaning, he might not be a Hall-of-Famer, but he was a great player for the Sox who played just about all his career with the Sox. Evans fits into this category. I'm not saying Evans' number should or shouldn't be retired, but someone like him should be part of the discussion. And it allows for Pedro who was certainly an all-time great but played just seven of 18 years with the Sox.
Someone like Pedro (7 of 18), however, had to be as great as Pedro was with the Sox. That's why I say no to Schilling. He was a great pitcher, borderline HoF'er, but he didn't play long enough with the Sox or have enough good years with the Sox.
As for Boggs, he's borderline. I don't care about how selfish he is. The fact is, he was an excellent defensive third baseman and was a great hitter -- five batting titles . And he was great at his job -- getting on base. He had great numbers with the Sox -- .338 BA, .428 OBP, .462 SLG, .890 OPS.
And I don't care that he went to the Yankees. The Sox didn't want him, so he could go where ever he wanted. But it was just 11 of 18 years, which is better than 10 of 18 but not as good as 14 or 15 of 18. He also is in the Hall as a Red Sox.
So like I said, he's borderline simply because I think a certain amount of consideration has to be made for popularity, and there's always seems there was something of a disconnect between him and the fans even when he played.
In the end, I vote not, but to be fair to Boggs' accomplishments it is close. We might not like him, but he was a heck of a hitter.