Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

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    Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    "This was a disappointing year in a lot of ways," Cherington said. "For us to be good again, there needs to be a change in the culture."

     

    As Bill would say, What say you?  Give your reasons why or why not

     

    what happened to the poll option?

     

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    In response to georom4's comment:
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    "This was a disappointing year in a lot of ways," Cherington said. "For us to be good again, there needs to be a change in the culture."

     

    As Bill would say, What say you?  Give your reasons why or why not

     

    what happened to the poll option?

     

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    So you really felt the need to start another whiny thread about Pedroia when your other whiny thread about Pedroia was still on the front page?   

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    answer the question you salamis and be counted...dont worm out like Pedey talking about how he "saw" nothing in 2011 in the clubhouse...grow a pair...

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    With Francona in Cleveland what might be some reasonable possible trades featuring Pedroia and perhaps expanding to other Sox players and other needed parts for the Sox. I'd hate to see him go but in my mind no one should be protected--we haven't had a playoff win going into our fourth year.

    Might Cabrera, Masterson, Santiago, Kipnis, Brantley, starting pitchers?? prospects.  OR trade Pedroia to other Central teams--get a little competition going to beef up the return...Maybe Detroit for Jackson and Fister etc. He's probably our best chip--make the most of it.

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    In response to georom4's comment:
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    "This was a disappointing year in a lot of ways," Cherington said. "For us to be good again, there needs to be a change in the culture."

     

    As Bill would say, What say you?  Give your reasons why or why not

     

    what happened to the poll option?

     

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    As long as Lucchino remains in the petri dish, the culture won't change.


    BTW, I'm no salami, I'm a Lithuanian Kielbasi.

     
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    In response to georom4's comment:
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    "This was a disappointing year in a lot of ways," Cherington said. "For us to be good again, there needs to be a change in the culture."

     

    As Bill would say, What say you?  Give your reasons why or why not

     

    what happened to the poll option?

     

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    As long as Lucchino remains in the petri dish, the culture won't change.


    BTW, I'm no salami, I'm a Lithuanian Kielbasa.

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     a fine meat, just for the record...

     

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

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    In response to georom4's comment:
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    "This was a disappointing year in a lot of ways," Cherington said. "For us to be good again, there needs to be a change in the culture."

     

    As Bill would say, What say you?  Give your reasons why or why not

     

    what happened to the poll option?

     

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    So you really felt the need to start another whiny thread about Pedroia when your other whiny thread about Pedroia was still on the front page?   

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    He was so embarrassed by beat-down he took in the old thread, he started this one to divert attention.

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    joey is still holding on to his Josh beckett baseball card...kinda sad....

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

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    joey is still holding on to his Josh beckett baseball card...kinda sad....

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    It sounds like you're the one "hanging onto Beckett."  Let it go, he plays for the Dodgers, now. 

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    In response to georom4's comment:

    "This was a disappointing year in a lot of ways," Cherington said. "For us to be good again, there needs to be a change in the culture."As Bill would say, What say you?  Give your reasons why or why notwhat happened to the poll option?


    You're getting to be worse than andrewmitch was with JD Drew and Carl Crawford. One Pedroia bashing thread wasn't enough?

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    Joe "Brides Maid" Bridey just like Jim from Florida loves all the players/coaches on the team regardless of merit. It is called being a Blind Homer.

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    That said I love Pedroia.... he was wrong earlier this year with the "not how we do things" comment but he is key to this teams chemistry going forward.

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    He is the heart and soul of this team.

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    pedey i sadly realized after that 2011 interview, and his subsequent outbursts, is simply not too bright.....but he is a hell of a gamer...which might actually be a problem as he slips into mediocrity into his 30s

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    Is it mediocrity or the toll that injuries might take? Being a "gamer" is great but if he doesn't learn to heal properly before returning to play, especially as he ages, his career could be substantially shortened.

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    Pedey used to be head and shoulders above Cano but they are going in opposite directions now.

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    pedey is in decline....just like youk was, and beckett....a fact of baseball life...the 30s are very hard for some....does pedey look like a jeter type to you? like larry bird at 29 he is going on 35

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    Jeez, it's not like Pedroia had an awful season...a .797 OPS is pretty good for a second baseman, especially when they're an outstanding fielder.

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    HF..his fielding was very good the past two years...too bad he is not a superstar anymore...or even an allstar for that matter....if we could get a starting pitching out of him, i would do it at this point considering our porous rotation....we really have no on else that we could offer except WM and that would be dumb considering our lack of power and his youth...we can always find a guy who hits 15 homers and 80 rbis anywhere

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    In response to EnchiladaT's comment:
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    Joe "Brides Maid" Bridey just like Jim from Florida loves all the players/coaches on the team regardless of merit. It is called being a Blind Homer.

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    I'll admit to being fanatic, but I am not capable of drifting too far from the numbers.

    1-My inner-fan tells me that Pedroia plays the game exactly how it should be played.  All-out, all the time.  The dude plays with broken fingers.

    2-My inner-mathematician tells me that he had the highest WAR on the team over the past two years, despite playing with a screw in his foot in 2011.

    3-My inner-mathematician also tells me the Pedroia is tied for 2nd in WAR among all MLB 2Bs over the past two years.

    4-My inner-psychologist tells me that Geo is ground-zero for the Bobby Bootlicker Brigrade, and rather than admit he made a absolutely horrible choice in preferring BV over Tito, he'd rather blame everyone else on the team.

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    Decline.

     
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    Re: Was Pedroia part of the problem in 2011 & 2012?

    ...we can always find a guy who hits 15 homers and 80 rbis anywhere

    Over the past two years, Pedey is #2 among 2Bs in WAR.  The only better is Cano.

    I know numbers are not your friend, but that doesn't mean you should ignore them.

    Forget the numbers you don't understand, over the last two years-

    Avg 4th

    OBP 1st

    SLG 3rd

    UZR/150 1st

     

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