Was Ted Williams the greatest hitter who ever lived?

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    Was Ted Williams the greatest hitter who ever lived?

    The Red Sox had this great little nugget in their pre-game media notes: today is the anniversary of Ted Williams hitting his first home run in the majors. It was April 23, 1939 against the Philadelphia Athletics at Fenway Park.

    Williams connected off Bud Thomas in the first inning. The Sox lost the game 12-8 and the attendance was listed at 12,000.
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    Williams was a 20-year-old rookie that season. He hit .327/.436/.609 with 44 doubles, 11 triples, 31 homers, 107 walks and 145 RBIs.

    Can you image if a 20-year-old kid did that today?

    Surely you have done this before. But look at www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/willite01.shtml" target="_blank">Ted's page on Baseball-Reference.com and marvel at what a player he was. The man had a .482 career OBP and a 1.116 OPS. His career OPS+ was 190.

    It's amazing to think somebody played for 19 seasons, came to the plate 9,791 times and got on base 48.2 percent of the time. Plus hit 521 home runs.

    Here's to the memory of the greatest hitter who ever lived and the first home run he hit in the majors. That must have been something to see.

     
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    Absolutely the greatest hitter ever.  And to think he missed all those prime years in the service of his country. 

    God bless his talent and patriotism....just the opposite of Cassius Clay...
     
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    No, Jed Lowrie is.
     
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    Williams and Ruth are the two greatest hitters who ever lived.  I think it should be left at that.
     
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    Yes. Watch Gonzo though...
     
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    [QUOTE]Absolutely the greatest hitter ever.  And to think he missed all those prime years in the service of his country.  God bless his talent and patriotism....just the opposite of Cassius Clay...
    Posted by ampoule[/QUOTE]

    I figure that if he didn't miss time for the war and still played until 1960, he would have finished with 660 to 700 home runs (fourth all time), 660-690 doubles (5th-7th all time), 2,300-2,350 RBIs (1st all time) and about 3,250-3,330 hits (11th all time).

    Give or take.
     
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    ruth would be, no? where are our stat guys?

    williams lost a lot of time to the war but you cant count that in the totals....
     
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    [QUOTE]ruth would be, no? where are our stat guys? williams lost a lot of time to the war but you cant count that in the totals....
    Posted by georom4[/QUOTE]

    I've always said Ruth or Williams are the best hitters.
     
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    [QUOTE]By Peter Abraham, Globe Staff The Red Sox had this great little nugget in their pre-game media notes: today is the anniversary of Ted Williams hitting his first home run in the majors. It was April 23, 1939 against the Philadelphia Athletics at Fenway Park. Williams connected off Bud Thomas in the first inning. The Sox lost the game 12-8 and the attendance was listed at 12,000. www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/peteabepics/Ted_Williams.jpg " /> www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/assets_c/2011/04/Ted_Williams-thumb-90x135-39591.jpg " alt="Ted_Williams.jpg" width="90" height="135"> Williams was a 20-year-old rookie that season. He hit .327/.436/.609 with 44 doubles, 11 triples, 31 homers, 107 walks and 145 RBIs. Can you image if a 20-year-old kid did that today? Surely you have done this before. But look at www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/willite01.shtml " target="_blank"> Ted's page on Baseball-Reference.com and marvel at what a player he was. The man had a .482 career OBP and a 1.116 OPS. His career OPS+ was 190. It's amazing to think somebody played for 19 seasons, came to the plate 9,791 times and got on base 48.2 percent of the time. Plus hit 521 home runs. Here's to the memory of the greatest hitter who ever lived and the first home run he hit in the majors. That must have been something to see.
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    Yes, I also agree that Williams was the greatest hitter ever, er, well, except for J. D. Drew......
     
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    One more unbelievable stat - strikeouts (or lack thereof).  Over the career, he averaged 50 whiffs a season.

     
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    I think he had 20/15 vision. That's why they made him a fighter pilot when he went in the service.
     
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    No Ichiro in this discussion, Pete Rose or Sadahara Oh?
     
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    [QUOTE]No Ichiro in this discussion, Pete Rose or Sadahara Oh?
    Posted by tbs2007[/QUOTE]Ichiro probably belongs in the discussion.
     
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    off the top of my head........

    1 - Williams
    2 - Ruth
    3 - Gehrig
    4 - Cobb
    5 - Aaron
    6 - Hornsby
    7 - Puljous
     
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    bobbysu, he missed most of 3 years in WW2 and 2 years in Korea. He also missed a half year after chipping a bone in his elbow in an all star game. So a total of a good 5 years. 200 more HRS??
     
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    This is the problem, Ichiro and Williams. Comparing a Power guy with a speed guy. I in no way say Teddy Ballgame wasn't a great hitter, but did he ever do 10+ consecutive seasons with 200 hits?
     
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    Who was the toughest out (walks or hits MINUS K's)?

    Who was the most productive  (slugging %, RBI)?

    That's Ted.........

     
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    walks don't usually drive in runs but........look at my last post.....
     
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    Re: Was Ted Williams the greatest hitter who ever lived?

    He probably was....I mean .406 its hard to argue with that, I mean that is just scary.
     
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