We have a problem at SS. Lets start looking at the farm for help first.

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    We have a problem at SS. Lets start looking at the farm for help first.

                                 Last night it was evident that MS is a problem at SS. Just because he wasn't charged with any errors, his play was sometimes very shaky at best. He plays a step shallow to compensate for lack of arm strength which creates problems to his left and right on balls hit in these areas. Right now, he's relatively error free and chipping in with a hit or two here and there. But, moving forward, we need an upgrade here.
     
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    [QUOTE]                             Last night it was evident that MS is a problem at SS. Just because he wasn't charged with any errors, his play was sometimes very shaky at best. He plays a step shallow to compensate for lack of arm strength which creates problems to his left and right on balls hit in these areas. Right now, he's relatively error free and chipping in with a hit or two here and there. But, moving forward, we need an upgrade here.
    Posted by eggplants[/QUOTE]Yeah and? The RS knew what they were going to get from Scutaro. They knew this was a "bridge" signing not a long term future move. They probably will need a second bridge whether that is Lowrie and another utility player or via trade/FA before they can get to Iggy or another prospect. That is because for all RS Nation had Iggy written into the 2012 25 man roster, the kid isn't ready to hit at the MLB level, so far he can't hit at AAA level.

    Every team is going to have some areas that aren't strengths. The left side of the IF is not a defensive strength for the RS. But they are solid on the right, in the OF and offensively they are very strong. The amount of depth Epstein has built into his starting rotation and for that matter BP is by 21st century MLB standards excellent.

    So we have a SS with limited range and a so so arm playing next to a 3B with the same. Even at this lofty payroll that is the way it is in MLB...
     
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    Scutaro isn't the Sox' ideal SS, but I think we're lucky to have him right now. Lowrie is actually worse than Scutaro on defense, plus who knows when he'll actually play again. Iglesias (currently on the 7 day DL with a concussion, I think) would be a huge upgrade defensively, but the front office doesn't want to bring him up to watch him flirt with the Mendoza line all season. 

    It's easy to say right now that living with Iggy batting .200 will be offset by his defense, but Sox fans are pretty unforgiving towards players who are consistently rally-killers (see Drew, JD).

    I guess you could maybe make an argument for Navarro?
     
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    Marco is not the guy he was last year or the year before in Toronto. There is as we know something wrong with his arm. He has made some easy plays look real close.
    I like the guy but they really need to do more late inning substitution at SS with Navarro.
     
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    [QUOTE]Marco is not the guy he was last year or the year before in Toronto. There is as we know something wrong with his arm. He has made some easy plays look real close. I like the guy but they really need to do more late inning substitution at SS with Navarro.
    Posted by JimfromFlorida[/QUOTE]

    The problem is that when you're giving Youk or AGon a day off, there isn't anyone else to play 3B.  Unless you want Salty playing 1B so Youk can slide across the diamond to 3B to get Navarro at SS, but I feel like you're giving up too much defense at the corners to improve the SS position.
     
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    it was just another of theo blunder's blunders.
    he's made it into an art form.
     
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    July 6, 2011 Boston Red Sox “shortstop of the future” Jose Iglesias was placed on the seven-day disabled list with a concussion after being hit by a pitch. Iglesias was down for several minutes before walking off under his own power, and preliminary tests on the injury have been “encouraging.”

    I missed this news.  There is a bit of time for his hitting to progress but IMO it is not in Iglesias's long-term interest to start off 2012 in MLB.  If he had put up his AAA #s in MLB he would be in the running for the worst hitting position player.
     
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       The Sox have bigger needs than finding an upgrade at SS. Scutaro is doing an adequate job and teams have won with players of similiar ability, Eckstein comes to mind who has two rings. The Sox won in '07 with Lugo, and the Giants of last year are two more examples of teams with mediocre play at SS winning it all. The sox should concentrate their resources on finding a RF and bull-pen help

     
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    [QUOTE]                             Last night it was evident that MS is a problem at SS. Just because he wasn't charged with any errors, his play was sometimes very shaky at best. He plays a step shallow to compensate for lack of arm strength which creates problems to his left and right on balls hit in these areas. Right now, he's relatively error free and chipping in with a hit or two here and there. But, moving forward, we need an upgrade here.
    Posted by eggplants[/QUOTE]

    It should be interesting to see what Theo does to solidify our "long term" need at SS and RF.  We have a few candidates on the farm but none who have really sold me as a permanent fix.  We made a huge investment this spring so it will probably be much like it is now with fil in players in hopes a youngster blossoms.
     
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    Scutaro is adequate, nothing more or less.  I would have to say that there have got to be legitimate concerns as to Lowrie's durability.  Iglesias is a defensive specialist. At present , he does not hit nearly well enough to be the every day shortstop. He is very young, so he may well improve, but he is not the answer, right now.  Navarro is interesting. I would like to see him play a few times at short before forming an opinion.  Trading for Reyes is not realistic.  So for now, it has to be Scutaro.
     
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     Were you guys all calling for Theo to get Han-Ram back at the deadline in 07? We won the WS with Lugo, and Scutaro has done better than Lugo did in 07 so far.
     Scutaro is average. He has an average average, hits for average power, has average speed, is an average defender, and has an average arm. In 07, Lugo had a bad average with bad power, had good speed, and was an average defender with an average arm. Also, the expectations were higher on Lugo. We can live with Scutaro until Lowrie comes back, and even then I would try and ease Lowrie back in to the starting job. Heck, even if Lowrie didn't come back for the rest of the year because of, say, fracturing his head, we would only have to live with Scutaro for 4 more months. He can't be that bad.
     
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    [QUOTE]it was just another of theo blunder's blunders. he's made it into an art form.
    Posted by the_yazzer[/QUOTE]

    your posts are nothing but blunders...face
     
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     Most baseball folks say that SS is the most important defensive position on the field. One can counter that we won the WS with Julio Lugo, as if he were worse than Scutaro. My argument with that is that Lugo had much more range and a stronger arm than Scutaro. I would agree that Lugo's arm was terribly inaccurate, but Youk saved his bacon time after time. If we could upgrade at that position it would be a big plus.
     
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                            Most of the respondents so far agree there is a problem at SS. Right now the possibilities at SS beyond MS are quite limited. JL, injured. JI, injured. Is there anyone lower than AAA that could help out? If thats it then we need immediate help. If MS gets hurt tonight and is unable to play tomorrow then what? What ever answer you give, can you live with him for the rest of the season?
     
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    Can Debbie join this group?
     

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