Re: What about Salty?
posted at 11/4/2013 9:47 PM EST
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Id like McCann. Would be a nice fit in the middle of the lineup. Is also very close with Ross. He has done a great job with atlantas staff.
having so many young pitchers i want someone back there who can lead them. Ross n McCann being friends will make the transition easier. The above noted lineup still brings speed, quality defense, offense, youth and vets.
I agree with all of this. Although Ive become a fan of Salty and seeing his improvements over the last 2 years, I wouldnt complain one bit if they got McCann. I just hope his $$ and years are reasonable. He turns 30 during ST and is expected to get 14M per and talks of 5 years. That would make him 34 for his final year if it was 5 years. By then Papi will be gone, McCann could DH, and Vasquez, Swihart or even Denney are involved.
I think Salty will improve even more and should receive a good deal. Not sure anymore if its with the Sox. All I know is Lavarnway has not impressed AT ALL behind the plate. Theres a reason they didnt play him when Ross went down. They never used Butler either, so hes not in the mix at 27-28yo. Vasquez will need at least a year at AAA before he can be considered for full time in Boston, maybe 2. He could be used in a pinch this year, but thats it. Swihart will start at AA. Thats all we have in the upper system.
Both would be more of a commitment to the catching position, as both guys can play full time for the duration of their deals. Would either be willing to cut their playing time as a catcher and DH if Vasquez or Swihart are ready in a year or 2? I know I would certainly ask what a teams future plans are at the position. If I had an offer from another team to be the catcher for the duration of the deal, Id take that instead of possibly having to cut my time.
The facts of the matter are that
1. He has never been given the kind of shot Salty got here to do the job. For a full year Salty had a dWAR of 0.2 his first year as full time catcher. Lavarnway has had so little experience that his sample size is small. This year his dWAR was 0.
2. Lavarnway has succeeded at every level he has been given a fair shot to play regularly. Just because the FO isn't giving him that shot doesn't mean he can't do it an improve defensively just like Salty did when he played regularly-not that Salty or Lavarnway is ever going to be a top notch defensive catcher. To say that he has "not impressed" is absurd because he has never been given a shot to play consistently. Its like saying the Drew has not impressed because he stunk offensively in the WS-too few games to draw any conclusions.
Lavarnway deserves a chance to play regularly, with us or with someone else. I suspect he will succeed, but I don't know it for a fact. No one does. You cannot judge his ML career yet because he simply has been on the back burner the whole time.
So you want to give him a tryout next year? Salty was a natural catcher, Lavarnway isnt and it shows. In the time that he was here it was obvious he is bad at blocking balls and is slow behind the plate. The Sox not playing him when Ross went down should tell you all you need to know about there feelings on Lavarnway. Lavs offensive numbers have suffered some over the last couple years too.
I say give him a 1b mit or trade him.
I would have no problem giving him a shot at it next year; none at all. Like I said, he has succeeded at every level he has played at. I am less concerned about his defense than you are. I think that if he plays regularly he will improve, especially if Varitek can coach him. Just because our FO doesn't think much of him does not make them right. They have missed the boat many many times. I would also not mind giving him a 1B mitt or trading him. The point is, he deserves a shot to play.