What advice would you give Ben to fill out the rotation?

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    [QUOTE]I'm going to sound like a broken record. IMO RS should look into Paul Maholm. He's a 29 yr old LH, former 1st round draft pick who just finished a 3yr/13.75 mil contract w/ Pirates whose agent is Bo Mckinnis and has pitched almost 200 innings every year. If you looking for someone cheap who might have a lot of upside this might be the guy. He's played on some of the worst teams in baseball over his career and as Pirates were a decent team last year his numbers weren't bad. Put him on a good team and might live up to the potential of a No.1 pick. Compare to Lester stats last yr:                           IP     ERA   Whip    H/9  HR/9 BB/9 Jon Lester      191.2   3.47  1.257   7.8   .9       3.5 Paul Maholm  162      3.66  1.294   8.9   .6       2.8 Another LH starter can't hurt when going into Yankee Stadium on regular basis. I would definately give this guy 5-6 mil per for 2-3 yrs might get great return for the money.
    Posted by garyhow[/QUOTE]
    Would former Mississippi State teammate Jonathan Papelbon recommend the Red Sox to free agent Paul Maholm?

    http://www.fanbase.com/Mississippi-State-Bulldogs-Baseball-2003/roster

    I agree that Maholm is somewhat underrated.
     
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    Maholm is a good option, and if he knows Papelbon personally he probably knows him well enough not to listen to him ;)

     
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    [QUOTE]I'm going to sound like a broken record. IMO RS should look into Paul Maholm. He's a 29 yr old LH, former 1st round draft pick who just finished a 3yr/13.75 mil contract w/ Pirates whose agent is Bo Mckinnis and has pitched almost 200 innings every year. If you looking for someone cheap who might have a lot of upside this might be the guy. He's played on some of the worst teams in baseball over his career and as Pirates were a decent team last year his numbers weren't bad. Put him on a good team and might live up to the potential of a No.1 pick. Compare to Lester stats last yr:                           IP     ERA   Whip    H/9  HR/9 BB/9 Jon Lester      191.2   3.47  1.257   7.8   .9       3.5 Paul Maholm  162      3.66  1.294   8.9   .6       2.8 Another LH starter can't hurt when going into Yankee Stadium on regular basis. I would definately give this guy 5-6 mil per for 2-3 yrs might get great return for the money.
    Posted by garyhow[/QUOTE]

    Good idea, but 5-6m/year is probably a budget-buster as things stand today......
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What advice would you give Ben to fill out the rotation? : Good idea, but 5-6m/year is probably a budget-buster as things stand today......
    Posted by SonicsMonksLyresVicars[/QUOTE]
    But 40% tax on 5-6 mil = 2-2.5 mil J.Henry can do.
    Oswalt/Jackson/Kuroda/etc... will cost much more. Definately budget busters.

     
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    [QUOTE]John Garland, #4 starter and inning eater Give Doubrant the #5 slot See if you could get Scott Kazmir on a minor league deal, if not let the kids battle it for starting depth and a 2nd lefty out of the pen and of course, keep Bard and Aceves in the pen
    Posted by andrewmitch[/QUOTE]Garland is a viable option Doubrant not so much and Kazmir is toast.
     
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    Another guy that might be worth a look is Jeremy Guthrie from the O's. He's 32, probably makes $6 M in Arb--he's a FA after 2012--he was 9-17 with a 4.33 ERA and threw over 200 innings. Has pitched in the East--might not cost much though DD might make it difficult.

    Paul Maholm might be a better choice--incentive laden for two years as Moon mentioned earlier plus it would give us a couple of lefties at the Stadium.
     
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    [QUOTE]Another guy that might be worth a look is Jeremy Guthrie from the O's. He's 32, probably makes $6 M in Arb--he's a FA after 2012--he was 9-17 with a 4.33 ERA and threw over 200 innings. Has pitched in the East--might not cost much though DD might make it difficult. Paul Maholm might be a better choice--incentive laden for two years as Moon mentioned earlier plus it would give us a couple of lefties at the Stadium.
    Posted by MadMc44[/QUOTE]
    MLB Trade Rumors projects that Jeremy Guthrie will earn $8.3 million in his final arbitration season. As a point of reference, MLBTR projects an $8.7 million salary for Matt Garza in his second-to-last arbitration season.

    Either option could create luxury tax problems for the Red Sox.
     
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    [QUOTE]John Garland, #4 starter and inning eater Give Doubrant the #5 slot See if you could get Scott Kazmir on a minor league deal, if not let the kids battle it for starting depth and a 2nd lefty out of the pen and of course, keep Bard and Aceves in the pen
    Posted by andrewmitch[/QUOTE]

    Doubront is a good idea or a starter, assuming the Sox can get a reasonable option in front of him in the rotation.  I'd just assume give him fist chance over either Aceves or Bard, since they clearly are both capable of helping the team in relief.

    Garland is coming off surgery, and might not be able to "eat innings" like he has in the past.  He's a good idea for a depth signing on a minor league deal, or maybe a fifth starter instead of Doubront, but that's about it right now.

    Kazmir is done. and his career is likely over.  At this point, it might make more sense to lure Sandy Koufax out of retirement as opposed to pursuing Scott Kazmir...
     
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    [QUOTE]Another guy that might be worth a look is Jeremy Guthrie from the O's. He's 32, probably makes $6 M in Arb--he's a FA after 2012--he was 9-17 with a 4.33 ERA and threw over 200 innings. Has pitched in the East--might not cost much though DD might make it difficult. Paul Maholm might be a better choice--incentive laden for two years as Moon mentioned earlier plus it would give us a couple of lefties at the Stadium.
    Posted by MadMc44[/QUOTE]
    Agree. Guthrie another guy like Maholm who has pitched on some terrible teams and change of scenery to a winner might do a lot of good. Plus he's AL East tested. But I still like Maholm better, younger / cheaper/ LH more upside IMO.
     
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    Re: What advice would you give Ben to fill out the rotation?

    The way i see anyone coming in trade--Ex. Guthrie; is if Youk goes to the O's to play 1 b. That gives the Sox the money to cover the $8 M. for Guthrie and use Aviles and Punto to cover third.
     

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