What are some real "Realistic" Trades we can pull off?

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    cant put players on waiver if Boston still have to pay most of the salary for the rest of the season.

    Also agree with one of the poster is that we all have to wait until the month of July and see which teams are still in the playoff contention.  These teams will be a big time buyer, and will demand someone to fix their hole to make the team a stronger team just like Cardinals got Fucal as a SS.

    Right now no one is willing to make a trade!!!
     
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    Some Potential Free Agents for 2013 that are likely to leave their clubs are

    Josh Hamilton.  Could a Beckett and Youk for Hamilton and a Colby Lewis work?

    or

    Cole Hammels..  Could a Beckett and Youk for Hammels and maybe Shane Victorino?

    or how about Beckett and Youk to the Brewers for Krod and Cory Hart?
     
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    cant put players on waiver if Boston still have to pay most of the salary for the rest of the season. Also agree with one of the poster is that we all have to wait until the month of July and see which teams are still in the playoff contention.  These teams will be a big time buyer, and will demand someone to fix their hole to make the team a stronger team just like Cardinals got Fucal as a SS. Right now no one is willing to make a trade!!!
    Posted by GoUconn13

    Josh Beckett would likely clear waivers and become a free agent. Any team could then sign Beckett for the league minimum salary and the Red Sox would be on the hook for the remainder of Beckett's contract, including the combined $31.5 million owed in 2013 and 2014.

    As unlikeable as Beckett is, the Red Sox probably have no choice but to keep him.
     
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    Perhaps Josh Beckett, Clay Buchholz and Garin Cecchini for Carlos Lee, Wandy Rodriguez and Brett Myers. Beckett, Buchholz and Cecchini return to their Texas/Gulf Coast roots while the Sox pick up a veteran righthanded power hitter, a righthanded closer with a 0.84 ERA, 0.66 WHIP, 450 ERA+ and eight saves, as well as a lefthander starter with a 2.14 ERA, 1.08 WHIP and 173 ERA+ in seven starts covering 46.1 innings. Carlos Lee stinks, gets paid $18.5M, and has said he wants to play out his deal in Houston.
    Posted by moonslav59

    That's why I included the short-term commitment to Carlos Lee in the trade proposal to balance the long-term commitment to Clay Buchholz, who, frankly, has stunk this year.
     
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    In Response to Re: What are some real "Realistic" Trades we can pull off? : Josh Beckett would likely clear waivers and become a free agent. Any team could then sign Beckett for the league minimum salary and the Red Sox would be on the hook for the remainder of Beckett's contract, including the combined $31.5 million owed in 2013 and 2014. As unlikeable as Beckett is, the Red Sox probably have no choice but to keep him.
    Posted by hill55

    That is my point. 

    Better solution is to trade him.  

    But I dont think trading him would make the Red Sox team a better team.  No one would give Boston a talent young pitcher for Beckett.  More likely to give Boston a postional player such as Isuchi of Seattle, etc.


     
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    Some Potential Free Agents for 2013 that are likely to leave their clubs are Josh Hamilton.  Could a Beckett and Youk for Hamilton and a Colby Lewis work? or Cole Hammels..  Could a Beckett and Youk for Hammels and maybe Shane Victorino? or how about Beckett and Youk to the Brewers for Krod and Cory Hart?
    Posted by bostonjared

    A team won't trade desirable players for less desirable players such as Josh Beckett and Kevin Youkilis.

    Red Sox fans need to be realistic.
     
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    I think you get Youk back and you trade him. You could probably get something for Buchholz. I would look into trading Lavarnway to get an ace. If you get just one guy with a 3 era you have don't have a last place team.
    Posted by BosoxJoe5


    Yeh, an ace (or even a solid #3) for an unproven minor league catcher.  You see that every day don’t you.

    It is utterly amazing how fans can enumerate the various flaws of a player as justification for getting rid of him while seeming to believe that the GMs of the other 29 MLB clubs won’t see those same flaws and will rush to give up major value for a player or players you are eager to dump.

    Beckett, virtually untradeable unless the Sox eat a major portion of his remaining money.   But he might bring something of value at the trade deadline as there is always one or more clubs out there who think a change of scenery can straighten out a pitcher who clearly has talent. But, at best, they won’t get anything better than a number 4-5 or prospects and the Sox will have to throw in a lot of money.

    Bucholz, as with Beckett, so long as the perception is that his lperformance is not the result of a lingering injury there will always be another team who thinks they can straighten him out even if you can’t.

    Crawford, totally and completely untradeable.

    Salty.  If you don’t think he is good enough to be the starting catcher for the Sox, why do you think another GM will think he would be an upgrade for his team?  He ah enough of a track record now that you pretty much know what he is.  You don’t get much back for a backup level cathcher unless the other team is disparage as, for example, SF after losing Posey last year.

    Youklis, arguably one of the Sox’ most valuable players – prior to 2010.  He won’t bring anything of value UNLESS he can stay healthy AND prove his current offensive production is an aberration and not the true measure of what he can do if totally healthy.

    Ortiz, you might get a decent prospect but $14+ mil is a lot to pay for a DH.  Certainly won’t get an every day player who would come even close to replacing his offensive production.

    Pedroia, Lester, AGon and Ellsbury (assuming he returns and demonstrates that the injury won’t permanently affect him) would all bring substantial value in return, but, more likely as high level prospects, not someone who will have a major impact this year.

     
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    Some Potential Free Agents for 2013 that are likely to leave their clubs are Josh Hamilton.  Could a Beckett and Youk for Hamilton and a Colby Lewis work? or Cole Hammels..  Could a Beckett and Youk for Hammels and maybe Shane Victorino? or how about Beckett and Youk to the Brewers for Krod and Cory Hart?
    Posted by bostonjared


    You're kidding, right?  Sure teams with impending FAs often  look to get soemthing of value back for them if they don't think they can re-sign them.  But teams with legitimate hopes of making the WS don't. period.
     
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    In Response to Re: What are some real "Realistic" Trades we can pull off? : You're kidding, right?  Sure teams with impending FAs often  look to get soemthing of value back for them if they don't think they can re-sign them.  But teams with legitimate hopes of making the WS don't. period.
    Posted by lives2ski

    You don't think these contending teams could view Beckett as a value in the post-season? Espically on Philly where he would be a #3.  Or adding a former gold glove first baseman to solidify their defense with Ryan Howard on the DL? 
     
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    In Response to Re: What are some real "Realistic" Trades we can pull off? : You don't think these contending teams could view Beckett as a value in the post-season? Espically on Philly where he would be a #3.  Or adding a former gold glove first baseman to solidify their defense with Ryan Howard on the DL? 
    Posted by bostonjared

    Josh Beckett has not pitched well in the postseason since 2007, posting a 7.71 ERA in four postseason starts since then.

    Beckett might not crack the Philadelphia rotation where Roy Halladay's ERA of 3.28 is the highest of the five Philly starters this season. No one would put Beckett ahead of Halladay, Cole Hamels and Cliff Lee.

    It should be interesting to see whether Kevin Youkilis plays more games than Ryan Howard the remainder of the season.
     
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    I Read on Gameview Live "Shocking to see so many empty seats"...maybe they are season ticket holders who would rather watch a Boston team who had a better chance of bringing us a victory... HOORAH CELTICS !!! Wounder how long the sold out streak will continue if it hasn't already.

    Could we hoodwink Texas Rangers into a straight up for Texas boy Beckett for Josh Hamilton....OOPS , YOU SAID "REALISTIC" ! YA KNOW, I'D BEEN HAPPY TO HAVE KEPT DEREK LOWE WITH US ALL THESE YEARS SINCE A HERO IN 2004 and have let him retire with us as did Wakefield. In 2004 playoffs, he had a 3–0 record and 1.86 ERA in four games, three of them starts.
     
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    Doesnt Beckett have to approve a trade?? He is a 10/5 guy I believe..If management was looking to trade him, they would probably have to ask him to give a list of teams he would be willing to go to first, Then hope he actually approves it...
    Posted by southpaw777

    You dont think Beckett wants out of Boston - i would not be shocked if he asks for a trade soon

     
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    In order to trade Beckett you better be prepaired to eat about $30M of what is left on his contract 
     
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    Beckett, Youk, Ranaudo, Cecchini, and $15M for Josh Johnson and Giancarlo Stanton
     
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    Beckett, Youk, Ranaudo, Cecchini, and $15M for Josh Johnson and Giancarlo Stanton
    Posted by seannybboi

    The unwanted Red Sox players won't land Giancarlo Stanton, one of baseball's most valuable commodities, and Josh Johnson, a reasonably priced 28-year-old starter with a career ERA of 3.12.

    This thread calls for "realistic" trades.
     
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    In Response to Re: What are some real "Realistic" Trades we can pull off? : That's why I included the short-term commitment to Carlos Lee in the trade proposal to balance the long-term commitment to Clay Buchholz, who, frankly, has stunk this year.
    Posted by hill55


    Josh Johnson has stunk this year.  But you dismissed that idea due to his career numbers.
     
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    The best thing to do is to sit tight.  Trading Beckett, Lester or Buchholz would be a huge mistake - they are all pitchers underperforming to various degrees, but we're only six weeks into the season.  If you want to see a guy turn it around almost immediately after you sell him for scrap, those are your best bets.

    Besides, we don't really know what our needs are right now.  If our staff can pitch closer to their career norms we can stay in contention.  Crawford, Ellsbury, Youk, Bailey, Matsuzaka, Kalish & Lavarnway are all potential contributors.  Is Middlebrooks as good as he looks right now, or did he just come up during a hot streak?  Is Melancon the guy we saw the first 3 weeks of the season, or the last 3 weeks at Pawtucket?  

    It's going to take some time to really know what we have.  Personally, I still think we're contenders.  Which means we will be buyers at the break, and our best trade chip, assuming Matsuzaka is in the lineup will be Doubront.  Hopefully he will pitch well between now and then, and help us fill a hole, wherever that might be.  This winter, if Lavarnway looks like a full-time catcher, Salty could be on the block, as well as Ellsbury who is not likely to re-sign.


     
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    In Response to Re: What are some real "Realistic" Trades we can pull off? : Josh Johnson has stunk this year.  But you dismissed that idea due to his career numbers.
    Posted by slomag

    Josh Johnson has significantly better career numbers than Clay Buchholz, as evidenced by his 19.5 WAR in 763.2 career innings to the 7.2 WAR posted in 479.2 innings by Buchholz (who is less than seven months younger than Johnson).

    This season Johnson has been valued at 1.0 WAR already with an ERA of 5.87, a FIP of 2.79 and an xFIP of 3.38. Buchholz has been valued at a negative 0.6 WAR with an ERAof 9.09, a FIP of 7.63 and an xFIP of 5.20.

    There are degrees of stench.
     
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    Although it seems slightly surreal, our best chance is probably not looking for a cure through trades, but to use guys coming of the DL.

    Daisuke has a real opportunity to redeem himself.  If he's healthy, he is a probable upgrade to Bucholz and the 'current' version of Lester as well.

    If he and Dubrount can recover their form, we at least have a shot of holding our own, forget about the playoffs.

    At present we don't have anything anyone wants that we can afford to give up.  Maybe Lars?  Or Iggy.  But I seriously doubt they would ever move Iggy.
     
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    In Response to Re: What are some real "Realistic" Trades we can pull off? : Josh Johnson has significantly better career numbers than Clay Buchholz, as evidenced by his 19.5 WAR in 763.2 career innings to the 7.2 WAR posted in 479.2 innings by Buchholz (who is less than seven months younger than Johnson). This season Johnson has been valued at 1.0 WAR already with an ERA of 5.87, a FIP of 2.79 and an xFIP of 3.38. Buchholz has been valued at a negative 0.6 WAR with an ERAof 9.09, a FIP of 7.63 and an xFIP of 5.20. There are degrees of stench.
    Posted by hill55


    Josh Johnson also makes $27.5mill in 2012 and 2013 combined.

    That is a very significant chunk of change for a SP, especially one with Johnson's extremely spotty health history.  Buchholz contract calls for that much money in 4 years.

    Also worth noting, the Marlins have a history of backloading deals for the express purpose of trading the player.  They presumably wanted the option to move him all along, preferably before the balloon payments.  The trouble is, Johnson is now making about $14mill, and pitching rather poorly.   Who wants a very expensive $14mill pitcher who cannot get people out?

     At the very least, Buchholz balloon payment is 3 years out and he buys them time...

     
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    Realistic trades without throwing up a white flag?  (I hate the white flag trades.)

    Going to be difficult, but I will throw out these (un)realistic trades.

    Josh Beckett to St. Louis for Matt Holliday. It looks insanely good for Boston and bad for St. Louis upfront, but it actually isn’t. Holliday is signed through 2016 with an option for 2017 with about $97mill left to pay, over double Beckett’s remaining salary. This is a lot for a player not exactly off to a torrid start this year, and coming off a season where he missed 40 games due to injury. Already 32, he is not going to become a better hitter over the life of that deal, and unlikely to even ever be the hitter he once was. However, moving him gets the Cardinals out of their scariest contract and enhances their pitching depth. While they do have 5 good SP this season, they have 2 starters (Westbrook and Lohse) in the last year of their deal. Their anchors (Wainwright and Carpenter) are not pictures of health, and their farm does boast Shelby Miller, but little else. Moving any OF would give a place to play to Allen Craig, a very desirable result given the early returns. However, they don’t need Beckett just now, as everyone is healthy and throwing well. But needing another starter is an inevitability for all teams. The biggest obstacle is that by the time they need Beckett, there will be other starters available. None will go for Holliday, but St. Louis is very likely to be OK with Holliday in the short term. For Boston, Holliday gives them an actual OF, but complicates the LF logjam with Crawford. However, this is a short term problem, since the DH spot is likely to be vacated after 2012 anyway. It does give them another long term expensive contract to deal with, and very likely for a player who won’t be a significant contributor. Although Holliday might be able to prolong his productivity with some DH duty.

    Three Way Deal – Let me preface this by reminding you all that 3-way deals composed by fans are usually unrealistic. That said, here we go. Buchholz and Youkilis to the Angels, Peter Bourjos to the Braves, Jair Jurrjens and Ervin Santana to Boston. The Angels would need another SP and have too many outfielders. The Braves have an excess of young pitching talent (and, as always, more on the way), and need OF depth and certainly would not mind an in-house candidate to replace potential free agent Michael Bourn. And the Red Sox need Major League caliber SP. The downside to this deal for Boston is that Jurrjens really has not been the same pitcher since injuring his knee last season. His contract is preferable to Buchholz, however, as Jurrjens is still year-to-year, whereas Buchholz has 4yrs/$28mil remaining. (Bourjos is making league minimum; Atlanta would save nearly $5mill in this deal. Bank on them being on board.) Buchholz is not exactly selling himself as a reliable SP option, but his flyball tendencies would play much better in the much more spacious home fields in the AL West. While the Rangers play in a ballpark, the other 3 teams play in National Parks. Santana is the pitching version of Youkilis, a with a good, albeit lesser track record, and completely struggling early on this year. Contracts are nearly identical, so that is certainly not an issue. Youkilis might create more of a logjam for the Angels, even with Bourjos out of the picture, but he does present their best overall option at 3B as well. The Sox would be smarter to include Beckett here for Torii Hunter, but money involved indicates the Angels would be better off sending back Vernon Wells. Pass. Of course, three team deals are rare enough, without expecting one in May or June…

     
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    I doubt the Red Sox front office will succumb to pressure to make an immediate trade, but the front office should be laying the groundwork to cover all contingencies. If I were Ben Cherington, I would be on the phone to many teams saying "We hope to get back into contention, but if we don't ..." 1. We could make these players available 2. We would be interested in these players from your team 3. What players could your team make available? and/or 4. Would you have interest in any of our players? Given the current situation, it's better to start the conversation now than to wait until the deadline nears.
    Posted by hill55


    Hill,
    I'm pretty certain that Cherington entered the season with a plan Too include this year with contingency with an eye on 2013 and 2014...The same one that the Sox have followed since Henry and Luccino bought the team.

    Step 1 Offseason; to sign and or aquire players to fill a need based on current contracts of the returning players and the make up of the 40 man roster within budgeted guidelines a team that is built or constructed to contend into the future...

    Step 2 Entering Spring Training; the goal is to field the best team possible within budgeted guidelines. One capable of contending, with organizational depth both on the 40 man roster and at AAA with an eye on the post season...

    Step 3 Heading North: The goal is the break camp with the best 25 guys that in a perfect world would all stay healthy and produce to career norms...

    Step 4 April and May: Play ball and see what you've got and begin to put together a to-do list based on 4 key factors...

    1) Health and production of the core players.
    2) Organizational depth
    3) Where are they in relation to the competition.
    4) Do they have the resources to aquire the type of players they need...

    Step 5 June & July; Based on the above, if you're in contention...begin the process of aquiring players that address a need to bolster the club's chances to stay in the hunt and enter the dog days with the best team at the ready to play your best ball.

    Herin lyes the axis on which every team that entered the season with hopes of contending, begin serious talks within. It's during this time that decisions are made that will ulitmately play out and determine who's a buyer, or who's a seller. Sometimes buyers come from teams that might even be looking at aquiring a player that might fit a need the following season. As a rule team looking to part with valuable prospects due so in the interest of winning now...

    Step 6 August and September; ...this is when the contenders separate themselves from the pretenders. The pretenders are no longer trying to give the illusion to thier fan base that they're a legit playoff team and thus begin to look at paring payroll....For the contenders, if your core players are healthy and producing, and you find yourself in the mix, adding players to the roster now becomes a game of moneys...

    Step 7 October Playoff baseball "Pitching, defense and timely hitting" is code for the team that's plays it's best ball 11 more times than it's opponant's. regardless of the collective resumes or payroll, wins the trophy with the shiny flags on it. Every other team save for the runner up, has already begun to look to next year and the cycle starts over again. For the two teams that are fortunate to endure the gauntlet that is a MLB season and make it to the WS...they're offseason is only delayed by a few weeks and begins in earnest once the parades over...
     
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    I'm not saying I am for these moves, but some could be worthwile or the basis of similar deals...

    here's a near complete overhaul of this team and set ourselves up pretty nicely for 2013 and beyond:

    Trade:
    Youkilis 12:$12M, 13:$13M club option ($1M buyout)
    Crawford 12:$19.5M, 13:$20M, 14:$20.25M, 15:$20.5M, 16:$20.75M,17:$21M
    (Red Sox pay $5M a year of CC's deal from '15-'17)
    For:
    B. Zito 12:$19M, 13:$20M,14:$18M club option ($7M buyout)
    S. Romo $1.575M (+2 arb years)

    (Assuming The Youk and Zito's options are not taken, counting 1/3 of 2012's contracts, the money paid towards CC's deal, and the estimate of Sergio Romo's arb years, the total costs for each team would be 
    BOS: $43M/SF $89M (Sox save $46M)
    __________________________________________________

    Trade: 
    Josh Beckett 13:$15.75M, 14:$15.75M
    Saltalamacchia: $2.5M (+1 arb year) 
    For:
    Wandy Rodriguez 12:$10M, 13:$13M, 14:$13M club option ($2.5M buyout)
    Brett Myers 12:$11M, 13:$10M club option ($3M buyout)

    Total cost: (pro-rated 2012 to 1/3rd and est of Salty's arb)
    BOS: $43M (both options accepted) or $25M (buyouts)/HOU: $24M
    _____________________________________________

    Trade: 
    David Ortiz 12$14.575M
    Matsusaka 12:$10M
    Cody Ross 12:$3M
    Anthony Ranaudo (Pre-arb)
    For:
    Delmon Young $6.75M 
    Drew Smyly (Pre arb)
    J Benoit 12:$5.5M, 13:$5.5M

    Total Cost (pro-rated and arb est): BOS:$10M /DET: $10M
    __________________________________________________

    Winter:
    Trade: 
    J. Ellsbury: 12:$8.05M (+ 1 arb)
    N. Punto 12:$1.5M, 13:$1.5M
    G. Cecchini (pre-arb)
    For:
    Franklin Gutierez 12:$5.5M, 13:$7M, 14:$7.5M club option ($0.5M buyout)
    Jason Vargas 12:$5.5M (+ 1 arb)
    Jesus Montero (pre-arb)

    Total cost: BOS (no Gut. option) $20M until Montero hits arb: /SEA: $15M
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    2013 Red Sox
    C/DH  Lavarnway Montero 
    1B  AGon
    2B  Pedey
    3B  Middlebrooks
    SS  Iggy
    IF  Aviles
    LF   __FA__
    CF  Gutierez   Lin
    RF  Sweeney  Kalish

    S1  Lester
    S2  Rodriguez
    S3  Vargas
    S4  Zito
    S5  Smyly
    S6  Lackey (Doubront)

    R1  Myers
    R2  Bailey
    R3  Bard
    R4  Romo
    R5  Benoit
    R6  Morales
    R7  Doubront
     
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    Well, first Brett Myers would probably start crying. On his last trip to Boston, he was arrested for beating his wife on a public street. And as much distaste Myers has for Boston from that incident (really!!), the fans would undoubtedly be all over the 6’4” 270lbs pitcher who tossed around his 110lb wife all over Beacon Street. The Sox have been more devoted to character issues with most of their acquisitions, and Myers would be about as big of a PR nightmare as they could have.

    A simpler deal of Youkilis (1yr / $12.2mill) and Beckett (4 yrs / $68mill) for Lee (1yr / $16mill) and Rodriguez (2 yrs / $25mill) might make more sense. For the Astros, they get a younger local pitcher with AL experience as they prepare to switch leagues next season, and a 1B/DH player who (if they pick up his option) could hold the fort for Jonathan Singleton. Lee was a perfect fit for their DH slot next season, but there is no reason for them to extend the 36yo player with rapidly declining offensive skills. The AL jump has the potential to generate considerable baseball interest in Houston in 2013, and the Astros should take this chance to capitalize on that by acquiring some higher profile, expensive players to give a public show to the fanbase that they will be trying to win. And if they can do it without the foolish commitments involved in free agency, all the smarter. Of course, this operates on the assumption that the Astros think Youkilis can still hit.  (Of course, Beckett's shoulder inury really prohibts any deal.)

    For Boston, they get a tolerable SP and a big RHH bat with zero defensive skills and a much larger pre-game buffet budget. When I refer to Lee as a big bat, I am not referring to his hitting, if you get my drift. Lee covers a lot of ground in the outfield, but moreso in the same way on office building covers a lot of ground...

     
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    Delmon Young is not a good idea, either.

    Carl Crawford and he do not get along, and Crawford was quoted as citing removing Young and Elijah Dukes as part of the reason for the team's rapid improvement.

    Of course, the pitching helped, too...
     
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