What do you think of this NESN story from January:2011 Red Sox Will Challenge 1927 Yankees for Title of Greatest Team in Major League History

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    by Eric Ortiz on Sun, Jan 2, 2011 
    The Red Sox have won 100 or more games three times in their 110-year existence.

    They will make it four in 2011. But this team has the potential to accomplish something even bigger than winning 100 games.

    The last time the Red Sox reached the 100-win mark was 1946, when they went 104-50-2 and lost the World Series to the Cardinals in seven games.

    Prior to that, the Red Sox posted 101 wins in 1915 and 105 in 1912. Both seasons ended with World Series titles.

    Will the duck boats be rolling through the streets of Boston again next fall?

    Bookmakers like the Red Sox’ chances. Current odds put them at 9-2 to win the 2011 World Series. Only the Phillies, at 7-2, are bigger favorites, with the Yankees not far behind at 5-1 shots.

    Championships, of course, aren’t won in January. But championship teams are built during the offseason, and Theo Epstein has put together a roster that would make Branch Rickey proud.

    Look at the starting lineup.

    Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
    Dustin Pedroia, 2B
    Carl Crawford, LF
    Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
    Kevin Youkilis, 3B
    David Ortiz, DH
    J.D. Drew, RF
    Jarrod Saltalamacchia, C
    Marco Scutaro/Jed Lowrie, SS

    Speed. Power. Plate discipline. This lineup has it all. Good luck finding a hole from 1 to 7. Saltalamacchia is a bit of a wild card, but the 25-year-old could be ready for a breakout season. And whoever is the starting shortstop -- Scutaro or Lowrie -- gives the Red Sox one of the toughest No. 9 hitters in the game.

    Besides a potent offensive attack, the Red Sox will boast airtight defense, perhaps the best of any team in baseball.

    Turn to the bench, and manager Terry Francona has plenty of options.

    Mike Cameron, OF
    Darnell McDonald, OF
    Marco Scutaro/Jed Lowrie, INF
    Jason Varitek, C

    Youth, experience and versatility will ride the pine like lions waiting to hunt. Depth won’t be a problem, especially with players like Ryan Kalish, Lars Anderson and Josh Reddick on the farm.

    In 2010, the Red Sox scored 818 runs (second-most in the majors), or 5.1 per game. They hit 211 home runs (second in MLB) and posted a .790 OPS (tops in MLB). The offense, with even more weapons now, could demolish those numbers.

    Yet one run is all it might take to win a game on some days with the starting staff the Red Sox have assembled.

    Jon Lester, LHP
    Josh Beckett, RHP
    John Lackey, RHP
    Clay Buchholz, RHP
    Daisuke Matsuzaka, RHP

    Lester is a Cy Young winner waiting to happen. Beckett will notch more than six victories. Lackey should be better equipped to avoid the one-bad-inning syndrome. Buchholz has become a force. And Dice-K might be the best No. 5 starter ever. The Japanese right-hander is the only pitcher in the rotation who’s never been an All-Star, but this could be the year he ends that streak.

    Every Red Sox starting pitcher has something to prove. While the Phillies might be the popular choice as the best rotation in baseball, don’t be surprised if people are singing a different tune come October.

    When Red Sox starters have to hand the ball to the bullpen this season, Boston fans won’t have to have to cover their eyes and pray. The weak link in 2010 could be one of the best relief corps in the business.

    Tim Wakefield, RHP
    Scott Atchison/Matt Albers, RHP
    Hideki Okajima, LHP
    Dan Wheeler, RHP
    Bobby Jenks, RHP
    Daniel Bard, RHP
    Jonathan Papelbon, RHP

    Okajima is the only known left-handed quantity. But youngster Felix Doubront has talent and should see some action. Rich Hill, Lenny DiNardo and Andrew Miller also could contribute.

    The right-handers in the mix all bring experience and different styles to the fire. Need long relief? Call on Wakefield to disrupt hitters’ timing. Need a middle-inning specialist to get key outs? Wheeler knows how to do the job, and Atchison proved serviceable last season. Albers could be a diamond in the rough. Want heat? Jenks and Bard throw seeds. Want to turn out the lights? Papelbon is pitching for a contract, so trust he will be ready to show he’s far from washed up.  Reliability and consistency -- foreign concepts to Boston’s bullpen last season -- will be common words associated with this group.

    Every day should feel like Christmas for Curt Young, the new Red Sox pitching coach. The former A’s pitching coach didn’t have anything close to the horses he has now, and Oakland’s staff posted a 3.56 ERA last season, the best in the American League and fourth-best in the majors. Imagine what he can do with a Grade A collection of arms.

    The Red Sox were slated to win about 95 games last year. They won 89 despite injuries to Pedroia (a former MVP) and Youkilis (a possible future MVP). Add them back, along with the new players and a healthy Ellsbury, and 100 wins doesn’t just appear plausible. It seems downright inevitable.

    So does a date with history.

    The 2001 Mariners won 116 regular-season games to set the American League record for most wins in a single season and tie the 1906 Cubs for the major league record (though the North Siders accomplished the feat in 152 games). Both those teams failed to win the World Series. The Cubs lost to the White Sox in six games in the Fall Classic. The Mariners didn’t even make it that far, falling to the Yankees in five games in the ALCS.

    The Red Sox have no intention of suffering a similar fate. The way they are constructed, they could surpass the 116-win mark, but nothing less than a World Series title will make Boston happy.

    The 2011 Red Sox possess all the pieces to have a season for the ages. If everything falls into place and the breaks go their way, they could do more than set records and become champions. They could do more than take their place on Immortality Peak and end up being mentioned in the same sentence as legendary clubs of the past: the 1929 A’s, the epic Yankees teams of the ‘30s, the 1970 Orioles, the 1976 Reds.

    The 2011 Red Sox could accomplish a feat that has never been done. They could unseat the 1927 Yankees as the greatest major league team of all time.

    That would be something to celebrate.

     
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    I think he sounded like an overexcited fan...ya never know what a 162 game season will bring..Could look incredible on paper, but thats why they play the games.
     
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    Has anyone ever seen Eric Ortiz and SoxPatsCelts in the same room together?
     
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    Perhaps this writer just spoke to SPC beforehand.
     
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    [QUOTE]by Eric Ortiz on Sun, Jan 2, 2011  The Red Sox have won 100 or more games three times in their 110-year existence . They will make it four in 2011. But this team has the potential to accomplish something even bigger than winning 100 games. The last time the Red Sox reached the 100-win mark was 1946, when they went 104-50-2 and lost the World Series to the Cardinals in seven games. Prior to that, the Red Sox posted 101 wins in 1915 and 105 in 1912. Both seasons ended with World Series titles. Will the duck boats be rolling through the streets of Boston again next fall? Bookmakers like the Red Sox’ chances. Current odds put them at 9-2 to win the 2011 World Series . Only the Phillies, at 7-2, are bigger favorites, with the Yankees not far behind at 5-1 shots. Championships, of course, aren’t won in January. But championship teams are built during the offseason, and Theo Epstein has put together a roster that would make Branch Rickey proud. Look at the starting lineup. Jacoby Ellsbury , CF Dustin Pedroia , 2B Carl Crawford , LF Adrian Gonzalez , 1B Kevin Youkilis , 3B David Ortiz , DH J.D. Drew , RF Jarrod Saltalamacchia , C Marco Scutaro / Jed Lowrie , SS Speed. Power. Plate discipline. This lineup has it all. Good luck finding a hole from 1 to 7. Saltalamacchia is a bit of a wild card, but the 25-year-old could be ready for a breakout season. And whoever is the starting shortstop -- Scutaro or Lowrie -- gives the Red Sox one of the toughest No. 9 hitters in the game. Besides a potent offensive attack, the Red Sox will boast airtight defense , perhaps the best of any team in baseball. Turn to the bench, and manager Terry Francona has plenty of options. Mike Cameron , OF Darnell McDonald , OF Marco Scutaro / Jed Lowrie , INF Jason Varitek , C Youth, experience and versatility will ride the pine like lions waiting to hunt. Depth won’t be a problem, especially with players like Ryan Kalish , Lars Anderson and Josh Reddick on the farm. In 2010, the Red Sox scored 818 runs (second-most in the majors), or 5.1 per game. They hit 211 home runs (second in MLB) and posted a .790 OPS (tops in MLB). The offense, with even more weapons now, could demolish those numbers. Yet one run is all it might take to win a game on some days with the starting staff the Red Sox have assembled. Jon Lester , LHP Josh Beckett , RHP John Lackey , RHP Clay Buchholz , RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka , RHP Lester is a Cy Young winner waiting to happen. Beckett will notch more than six victories . Lackey should be better equipped to avoid the one-bad-inning syndrome . Buchholz has become a force. And Dice-K might be the best No. 5 starter ever . The Japanese right-hander is the only pitcher in the rotation who’s never been an All-Star, but this could be the year he ends that streak. Every Red Sox starting pitcher has something to prove. While the Phillies might be the popular choice as the best rotation in baseball, don’t be surprised if people are singing a different tune come October. When Red Sox starters have to hand the ball to the bullpen this season, Boston fans won’t have to have to cover their eyes and pray. The weak link in 2010 could be one of the best relief corps in the business. Tim Wakefield , RHP Scott Atchison / Matt Albers , RHP Hideki Okajima , LHP Dan Wheeler , RHP Bobby Jenks , RHP Daniel Bard , RHP Jonathan Papelbon , RHP Okajima is the only known left-handed quantity. But youngster Felix Doubront has talent and should see some action. Rich Hill , Lenny DiNardo and Andrew Miller also could contribute. The right-handers in the mix all bring experience and different styles to the fire. Need long relief? Call on Wakefield to disrupt hitters’ timing. Need a middle-inning specialist to get key outs? Wheeler knows how to do the job, and Atchison proved serviceable last season. Albers could be a diamond in the rough. Want heat? Jenks and Bard throw seeds. Want to turn out the lights? Papelbon is pitching for a contract, so trust he will be ready to show he’s far from washed up.  Reliability and consistency -- foreign concepts to Boston’s bullpen last season -- will be common words associated with this group. Every day should feel like Christmas for Curt Young , the new Red Sox pitching coach. The former A’s pitching coach didn’t have anything close to the horses he has now, and Oakland’s staff posted a 3.56 ERA last season, the best in the American League and fourth-best in the majors. Imagine what he can do with a Grade A collection of arms. The Red Sox were slated to win about 95 games last year. They won 89 despite injuries to Pedroia (a former MVP) and Youkilis (a possible future MVP). Add them back, along with the new players and a healthy Ellsbury, and 100 wins doesn’t just appear plausible. It seems downright inevitable. So does a date with history. The 2001 Mariners won 116 regular-season games to set the American League record for most wins in a single season and tie the 1906 Cubs for the major league record (though the North Siders accomplished the feat in 152 games). Both those teams failed to win the World Series. The Cubs lost to the White Sox in six games in the Fall Classic. The Mariners didn’t even make it that far, falling to the Yankees in five games in the ALCS. The Red Sox have no intention of suffering a similar fate. The way they are constructed, they could surpass the 116-win mark, but nothing less than a World Series title will make Boston happy. The 2011 Red Sox possess all the pieces to have a season for the ages. If everything falls into place and the breaks go their way, they could do more than set records and become champions. They could do more than take their place on Immortality Peak and end up being mentioned in the same sentence as legendary clubs of the past: the 1929 A’s, the epic Yankees teams of the ‘30s, the 1970 Orioles, the 1976 Reds. The 2011 Red Sox could accomplish a feat that has never been done. They could unseat the 1927 Yankees as the greatest major league team of all time . That would be something to celebrate.
    Posted by Mr.Bump[/QUOTE]

    This serves as a perfect reminder to never again listen to overhype and overrating a team.
     
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    SPC did predict 112 wins this year.

    All this leads to what I always say - fandom and paper stats mean diddley squat when it comes to the game itself.

    I still think that the 98 Yankee team matches up with the 27 team in many aspects. 
     
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    Kim has an opinion on certain issues and she certainly has the freedom to express it here. I maybe one of her least favorite posters here, but I respect her right to state her feelings.
     
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    Wow - talk about a shill/


    Call on Wakefield to disrupt hitters’ timing?

    Sounds like someone who never watched a Red Sox game.





     
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    The link:

    http://www.nesn.com/2011/01/2011-red-sox-will-challenge-1927-yankees-for-title-of-greatest-team-in-major-league-history.html

    More links:

    http://www.nesn.com/2010/12/red-sox-rotation-could-be-better-than-phillies-staff-this-season.html

    http://www.nesn.com/2010/12/additions-of-adrian-gonzalez-carl-crawford-give-red-sox-arguably-best-defense-in-baseball.html

    http://www.nesn.com/2010/12/daisuke-matsuzaka-still-brings-value-to-red-sox-rotation-despite-shaky-2010.html
     
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    [QUOTE]by Eric Ortiz on Sun, Jan 2, 2011  The Red Sox have won 100 or more games three times in their 110-year existence . They will make it four in 2011. But this team has the potential to accomplish something even bigger than winning 100 games. The last time the Red Sox reached the 100-win mark was 1946, when they went 104-50-2 and lost the World Series to the Cardinals in seven games. Prior to that, the Red Sox posted 101 wins in 1915 and 105 in 1912. Both seasons ended with World Series titles. Will the duck boats be rolling through the streets of Boston again next fall? Bookmakers like the Red Sox’ chances. Current odds put them at 9-2 to win the 2011 World Series . Only the Phillies, at 7-2, are bigger favorites, with the Yankees not far behind at 5-1 shots. Championships, of course, aren’t won in January. But championship teams are built during the offseason, and Theo Epstein has put together a roster that would make Branch Rickey proud. Look at the starting lineup. Jacoby Ellsbury , CF Dustin Pedroia , 2B Carl Crawford , LF Adrian Gonzalez , 1B Kevin Youkilis , 3B David Ortiz , DH J.D. Drew , RF Jarrod Saltalamacchia , C Marco Scutaro / Jed Lowrie , SS Speed. Power. Plate discipline. This lineup has it all. Good luck finding a hole from 1 to 7. Saltalamacchia is a bit of a wild card, but the 25-year-old could be ready for a breakout season. And whoever is the starting shortstop -- Scutaro or Lowrie -- gives the Red Sox one of the toughest No. 9 hitters in the game. Besides a potent offensive attack, the Red Sox will boast airtight defense , perhaps the best of any team in baseball. Turn to the bench, and manager Terry Francona has plenty of options. Mike Cameron , OF Darnell McDonald , OF Marco Scutaro / Jed Lowrie , INF Jason Varitek , C Youth, experience and versatility will ride the pine like lions waiting to hunt. Depth won’t be a problem, especially with players like Ryan Kalish , Lars Anderson and Josh Reddick on the farm. In 2010, the Red Sox scored 818 runs (second-most in the majors), or 5.1 per game. They hit 211 home runs (second in MLB) and posted a .790 OPS (tops in MLB). The offense, with even more weapons now, could demolish those numbers. Yet one run is all it might take to win a game on some days with the starting staff the Red Sox have assembled. Jon Lester , LHP Josh Beckett , RHP John Lackey , RHP Clay Buchholz , RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka , RHP Lester is a Cy Young winner waiting to happen. Beckett will notch more than six victories . Lackey should be better equipped to avoid the one-bad-inning syndrome . Buchholz has become a force. And Dice-K might be the best No. 5 starter ever . The Japanese right-hander is the only pitcher in the rotation who’s never been an All-Star, but this could be the year he ends that streak. Every Red Sox starting pitcher has something to prove. While the Phillies might be the popular choice as the best rotation in baseball, don’t be surprised if people are singing a different tune come October. When Red Sox starters have to hand the ball to the bullpen this season, Boston fans won’t have to have to cover their eyes and pray. The weak link in 2010 could be one of the best relief corps in the business. Tim Wakefield , RHP Scott Atchison / Matt Albers , RHP Hideki Okajima , LHP Dan Wheeler , RHP Bobby Jenks , RHP Daniel Bard , RHP Jonathan Papelbon , RHP Okajima is the only known left-handed quantity. But youngster Felix Doubront has talent and should see some action. Rich Hill , Lenny DiNardo and Andrew Miller also could contribute. The right-handers in the mix all bring experience and different styles to the fire. Need long relief? Call on Wakefield to disrupt hitters’ timing. Need a middle-inning specialist to get key outs? Wheeler knows how to do the job, and Atchison proved serviceable last season. Albers could be a diamond in the rough. Want heat? Jenks and Bard throw seeds. Want to turn out the lights? Papelbon is pitching for a contract, so trust he will be ready to show he’s far from washed up.  Reliability and consistency -- foreign concepts to Boston’s bullpen last season -- will be common words associated with this group. Every day should feel like Christmas for Curt Young , the new Red Sox pitching coach. The former A’s pitching coach didn’t have anything close to the horses he has now, and Oakland’s staff posted a 3.56 ERA last season, the best in the American League and fourth-best in the majors. Imagine what he can do with a Grade A collection of arms. The Red Sox were slated to win about 95 games last year. They won 89 despite injuries to Pedroia (a former MVP) and Youkilis (a possible future MVP). Add them back, along with the new players and a healthy Ellsbury, and 100 wins doesn’t just appear plausible. It seems downright inevitable. So does a date with history. The 2001 Mariners won 116 regular-season games to set the American League record for most wins in a single season and tie the 1906 Cubs for the major league record (though the North Siders accomplished the feat in 152 games). Both those teams failed to win the World Series. The Cubs lost to the White Sox in six games in the Fall Classic. The Mariners didn’t even make it that far, falling to the Yankees in five games in the ALCS. The Red Sox have no intention of suffering a similar fate. The way they are constructed, they could surpass the 116-win mark, but nothing less than a World Series title will make Boston happy. The 2011 Red Sox possess all the pieces to have a season for the ages. If everything falls into place and the breaks go their way, they could do more than set records and become champions. They could do more than take their place on Immortality Peak and end up being mentioned in the same sentence as legendary clubs of the past: the 1929 A’s, the epic Yankees teams of the ‘30s, the 1970 Orioles, the 1976 Reds. The 2011 Red Sox could accomplish a feat that has never been done. They could unseat the 1927 Yankees as the greatest major league team of all time . That would be something to celebrate.
    Posted by Mr.Bump[/QUOTE]
    If anyone has ever read about 'Murderer's Row', they'd see how ridiculous such a comparison could ever be made. Maybe they could carry their bats and gloves for them. Leave it to the NESN homers. A little research would have saved them this embarrassment. 
     
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    [QUOTE]SPC did predict 112 wins this year. All this leads to what I always say - fandom and paper stats mean diddley squat when it comes to the game itself. I still think that the 98 Yankee team matches up with the 27 team in many aspects. 
    Posted by jesseyeric[/QUOTE]
    C'mon man. Statistically alone, and the '98 team is not even close. Their OF had a .357 BA as a trio, not to mention the rest of the .300 club members on that team.
     
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    [QUOTE]I think he sounded like an overexcited fan...ya never know what a 162 game season will bring..Could look incredible on paper, but thats why they play the games.
    Posted by southpaw777[/QUOTE]  A simple case of hyperbole based on a best case scenario by a writer who is trying to generate conversation based on assumptions of a perfect storm on a winter day.  Harmless and irrelevant and the far majority of those who try to predict baseball and what will happen are often wrong.  They are generally not held accountable because fans tend to forget who said what when and live in the moment.  You can dredge up articles and comments like this through the years from numerous so-called insiders and experts and point out the error of their opinions after the fact.    
     
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          While I certainly thought at the beginning of this season that the Sox were a 100-105 win team, That article is ridiculous.  As soon as you read the words Dice-K is the greatest 5th starter of all time, it was time to run for the hills. This years Red Sox team HAS the talent to win (I mean in the abstract, because they aren't going to do it now) 100+ games.  Yet injuries, and a seeming lack of confidence, along with a pitching staff that has not pitched to it's abilities has crippled them in September. That being said...if they get in, they could still go 11-2 in the postseason and win it all. They are THAT talented.
          On a side note, as an impartial observer in the Red Sox vs Yankee rivalry (I am a Braves fan, impartial would be slightly unfair...as I root for the Sox, or anyone for that matter to beat the Yankees) I would say that in the last 13 years there have been a lot of articles written about a lot of teams, saying that they will be as good or better than the '98 NYY.... that is silly, if I am not mistaken that team led MLB in both hitting and pitching and went 125-50 combined. In my mind, that is the best team ever (Leaving out the juice factor) It is a silly comparison to make. I think the Sox have a foundation laid to field a team in the next 2-5 years that could rank among the greats, but the need to solidify their pitching to get there. I apologize for complimenting a Yankees team, belive me... it hurts me... '96 & '99 were the worst of the Braves defeats in my mind. Keep believing and remember that once you get IN the playoffs.... you get hot, and anything can happen!
         
     
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    [QUOTE]      While I certainly thought at the beginning of this season that the Sox were a 100-105 win team, That article is ridiculous.  As soon as you read the words Dice-K is the greatest 5th starter of all time, it was time to run for the hills. This years Red Sox team HAS the talent to win (I mean in the abstract, because they aren't going to do it now) 100+ games.  Yet injuries, and a seeming lack of confidence, along with a pitching staff that has not pitched to it's abilities has crippled them in September. That being said...if they get in, they could still go 11-2 in the postseason and win it all. They are THAT talented.       On a side note, as an impartial observer in the Red Sox vs Yankee rivalry (I am a Braves fan, impartial would be slightly unfair...as I root for the Sox, or anyone for that matter to beat the Yankees) I would say that in the last 13 years there have been a lot of articles written about a lot of teams, saying that they will be as good or better than the '98 NYY.... that is silly, if I am not mistaken that team led MLB in both hitting and pitching and went 125-50 combined. In my mind, that is the best team ever (Leaving out the juice factor) It is a silly comparison to make. I think the Sox have a foundation laid to field a team in the next 2-5 years that could rank among the greats, but the need to solidify their pitching to get there. I apologize for complimenting a Yankees team, belive me... it hurts me... '96 & '99 were the worst of the Braves defeats in my mind. Keep believing and remember that once you get IN the playoffs.... you get hot, and anything can happen!      
    Posted by athens7676[/QUOTE]

    As Bobby Cox once said, if I was the one who had Mariano Rivera, there would have been more championships in Atlanta.
     
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    Please don't get me started on Bobby Cox...the only manager who could be OUTMANAGED by Joe Torre. He made Torre look like a genius as far as handling a bullpen goes. Game 4 1996 WS... he forgot that NY had Boggs on the bench and ended up having to leave a wild Steve Avery in to face Boggs with the bases loaded....of course Boggs drew a walk....AAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHH!! We never had a solid closer. I knew Wohlers didn't have the right make up, and the best closer we had during that time (stuff-wise) was a crazy homophobic-racist. <sigh> 1995 seems so long ago :0(
     
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    Sox 2011 rival Yanks 2004 for best choke job.
     
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    [QUOTE]Please don't get me started on Bobby Cox...the only manager who could be OUTMANAGED by Joe Torre. He made Torre look like a genius as far as handling a bullpen goes. Game 4 1996 WS... he forgot that NY had Boggs on the bench and ended up having to leave a wild Steve Avery in to face Boggs with the bases loaded....of course Boggs drew a walk....AAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHH!! We never had a solid closer. I knew Wohlers didn't have the right make up, and the best closer we had during that time (stuff-wise) was a crazy homophobic-racist. <sigh /> 1995 seems so long ago :0(
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    Sorry about that Athen's. 96 was rough for you - I know. But it was a good year for me Tongue out
     
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    Look at these 2011 preseason predictions:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview/2011/news/story?page=11expertpicks
     
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    [QUOTE]Perhaps this writer just spoke to SPC beforehand.
    Posted by nhsteven[/QUOTE]

    true statement.  the 1998 Yankees were the greatest team I have ever seen, the 2011 Sox can't hold a candle to them.
     
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    [QUOTE]Kim has an opinion on certain issues and she certainly has the freedom to express it here. I maybe one of her least favorite posters here, but I respect her right to state her feelings.
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    Why am I mentioned in this thread?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What do you think of this NESN story from January:2011 Red Sox Will Challenge 1927 Yankees for Title of Greatest Team in Major League History : Why am I mentioned in this thread?
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    One of the trolls attacked you, but comment and ID were deleted and banned yesterday soon after.
     
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    [QUOTE]Look at these 2011 preseason predictions: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview/2011/news/story?page=11expertpicks
    Posted by hill55[/QUOTE]

    Confirms that ESPN is stocked with RS fans.

    Almost as funny as the the topic article.  That one just gets funnier every time I read it.
     
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    You never get what you pay for!
    Sports writers and weathermen go to the same predicting schools.
     
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