What does Francona see that 99% of the population doesn't?

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    What does Francona see that 99% of the population doesn't?

    What does Francona see that 99% of the population doesn't when:

    1. He puts Matt Albers into a 4-1 game with the bases loaded and....KABOOM.

    Albers had allowed 27 hits in his previous 16 1/3 innings. 

    2. Continues to use Darnell McDonald, pinch hitting him for Reddick.

    3. Play Jed Lowrie.

    Answers from Red Sox nation?

     
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    [QUOTE]What does Francona see that 99% of the population doesn't when: 1. He puts Matt Albers into a 4-1 game with the bases loaded and....KABOOM. Albers had allowed 27 hits in his previous 16 1/3 innings.  2. Continues to use Darnell McDonald, pinch hitting him for Reddick. 3. Play Jed Lowrie. Answers from Red Sox nation?
    Posted by ADG[/QUOTE]
    With Francona, it's not really about winning, it's about making sure the players are rested and no one is over used, in case they qualify for the playoffs. If they make the playoffs, then he can relax and put the best team on the field and Sit and Spit seeds while they play. He doesn't have to rest players for the December crunch time. Bottom line is that he is now, always was and always will be a managerial moron.
     
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    1) Wouldve rather seen anyone but Albers in that situation..
    2) Nope, cant figure that thought process out..makes absolutely no sense to bat a guy whos hitting .148 against LHP for a guy hitting .298 against LHP..
    3) Rather see Aviles..and whats up with that double clutch before he throws the ball and diving for balls that he doesnt need to?
     
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    [QUOTE]What does Francona see that 99% of the population doesn't when: 1. He puts Matt Albers into a 4-1 game with the bases loaded and....KABOOM. Albers had allowed 27 hits in his previous 16 1/3 innings.  2. Continues to use Darnell McDonald, pinch hitting him for Reddick. 3. Play Jed Lowrie. Answers from Red Sox nation?
    Posted by ADG[/QUOTE]
    What were/are the alternatives?
     
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    Early bird in Seattle being on here with neighbor Harness at 6 am.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to What does Francona see that 99% of the population doesn't? : What were/are the alternatives?
    Posted by hill55[/QUOTE]

    Not to bat Dmac for Red...and not that it might matter, but anyone over Albers at this point in that situation. Im far from a Tito basher, but those are a couple of head scratchers IMO...
     
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    [QUOTE]FROM SPRING TRANING ON TIL THE THE END OF THE YEAR IS THE PROBLEM WITH NUMB-NUTS. DO YOU THINK THE PHILLEY FANS ARE STUPID NOW? WOULD THEY LIKE HIM TO RETURN? HE IS THE WORSE MANAGER IN MY DAY AND I HAVE BEEN A RED SOX FAN SINCE 1945,
    Posted by mrmini[/QUOTE]

    Worse than Pinky Higgins, Jimy Williams, Don Zimmer, Billy Herman?
     
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    [QUOTE]FROM SPRING TRANING ON TIL THE THE END OF THE YEAR IS THE PROBLEM WITH NUMB-NUTS. DO YOU THINK THE PHILLEY FANS ARE STUPID NOW? WOULD THEY LIKE HIM TO RETURN? HE IS THE WORSE MANAGER IN MY DAY AND I HAVE BEEN A RED SOX FAN SINCE 1945,
    Posted by mrmini[/QUOTE]

    Tito is FAR from the worst manager in RS history...I agree some decisions he makes r questionable, but far from the worst..
     
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    why are the fundamentals being disregarded?


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What does Francona see that 99% of the population doesn't? : Worse than Pinky Higgins, Jimy Williams, Don Zimmer, Billy Herman?
    Posted by BeaconHill19[/QUOTE]

    Some of those teams lost 100 games.
     
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    [QUOTE]What does Francona see that 99% of the population doesn't when: 1. He puts Matt Albers into a 4-1 game with the bases loaded and....KABOOM. Albers had allowed 27 hits in his previous 16 1/3 innings.  2. Continues to use Darnell McDonald, pinch hitting him for Reddick. 3. Play Jed Lowrie. Answers from Red Sox nation?
    Posted by ADG[/QUOTE]


    Look, by all accounts he's a nice guy and he handles the players' personalities well, but, he's one of the single worst field tacticians to ever put on a uniform. He's totally clueless and stumbless very very badly when forced to think on his feet. But he's also the consummate 'yes man' lackey that is called for under any Inepstink administration, so for Theo, he works. No dignified baseball man would ever work under the conditions FrancoMa does. But to each his own.

    What needs to happen is for Henry to wake up and part ways with Inepstink. He's just a bad, bad GM. And once a new GM is in place FrancoMa and the other major problems (medical staff, strength and conditioning staff) will be shown the door in short order. In fact, if FrancoMa is too stupid to read the handwrtiting on the wall (debatable) and quit on his own once Inepstink is gone, he'll be escorted off the property within' one hour of a new GM taking over. That's how bad a manager he. 
     
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    Doesn't matter to Tito, he starts resting players in May for the play-offs... nearly every Sunday he puts out the B line-up.... the teams fundementals are in shambles. Time for a change if they fail to make it to the ALCS (at least).
     
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    [QUOTE]why are the fundamentals being disregarded?
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]

    This is of major concern for me.  I am not so hung up on D-Mac for Reddick.  D-Mac has been swinging a decent bat in the second half.  Also, not so hung up on Albers, as the bullpen is what it is.  When you factor in all the usage factors with these guys, the fact is, Albers has gotta get the ball and they need him to find his inner Matt Albers again.  But, the lack of fundamentally sound baseball is deeply concerning.  That should not fly in Francona's clubhouse, as the motto is always 'playing the game the right way'.  If I am managing this club, Lackey does not see one more inning of work this year after not covering on Gonzalez' great play.  Just not acceptable.
     
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    good point on Lackey... I didn't see that game but even Lou Merloni on WEEI saud he would have pulled him right there and then,.
     
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                             Bill James. He's on an information drip from Bill's Geek Squad. Matchups,L/R, are important. Whether or not the switch for an at bat is successful, that player has now got to go in and play defense somewhere. Thats not accounted for in matchup theory. People playing positions they never or rarely ever played before in place of experienced people sitting down. DMac pitching, at home no less. At least give the home crowd credit for paying an admission and not subject them to this type of scenario. Do this stuff on the road. He's experimented a lot this year with trying to find an infield /outfield hybrid player who could function as a substitue for both positions; Navarro,Sutton,Aviles, and now Spears..?,  in hopes of being  able to get one more pitcher on the roster. For the Sox, Ben Zobrist  has to be their most coveted player. Unfortunately, they don't have him. At SS he doesn't see Mike Aviles as his best option, he sees Scutaro. He thinks he can win with Scutaro as the starter. He can't. He can win with Scutaro off the bench. Until this past weekend, he didn't or couldn't see the value of Josh Reddick in RT field as opposed to DMac when he pinch hit for Reddick. Hopefully, he gets this part of the picture. If he plays his best all around players instead of his favorites he may have a chance. If Youklis is slow to return or not at 90-100%, They need Inglasis and move Aviles to 3rd base. Francona is a players manager, for him to do  these things would be like eating dry oatmeal. Look for the vets. If he goes down he's going down with Scutaro in the six hole. The only thing he would commit to during Spring Training; Scutaro is my starting shortstop. To me it looks like he outsourced the whole thing, and it shows. 
     
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    [QUOTE]good point on Lackey... I didn't see that game but even Lou Merloni on WEEI saud he would have pulled him right there and then,.
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]

    I'm not a big Lackey fan, but the way I saw the play, is that Lackey thought the ball was going to be played by Pedroia and when he saw Gonzo going for it he had to try to get there in time. I understand it should be automatic for the pitcher to move toward first on balls hit to that side. Once he realized that Gonza was going to field the ball, he did bust his hump to get there in time. I'm not making excuses, it's just the way I saw the play.
     
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    another constant reminder... one caller said you would hope Lester gives you a good 5 or 6 innings, to which he was countered with "that's all you expect out of your best pitcher? you may as well pack it in now, because what you should expect is your ACE to go 7 or 8, out-duel Shields and then have Pap come in to close it out."

    BurritoT has told you all time and time again all summer, if your best pitchers can't go more than 6 you have got a BIG problem on your hands. 
     
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    Not using Albers, McDonald, or Lowrie might help, I don't know, but they absolutely are not the key to the current slump.   

    Exactly one reliever, Papelbon, has been consistently good over the last 15-30 days.  Bard, Aceves, Wheeler, Albers, et al, have all struggled, especially recently.  Who would have thought, for example, Bard would be this bad this often in key games? 

    The starting pitching is missing a bunch of people, especially Beckett.  Lackey has been lousy for most of the season, and Lester has struggled with control problems.  Then there's Wake, Miller, Weiland, etc, etc. 

    In the Tampa series, the vaunted Sox hitting was weak except for game 3.  RISP average for all four games was horrible. 

    That said, if this team doesn't turn things around and get at least the wild card, Francona and/or Epstein could be gone. 

     
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    He sees dead people?
     
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    Look, Tito is certainly part of the problem. His decision to put Albers in vs. Toronto instead of Papelbon was a huge brainfart. You can blame him for that. But the starting rotation at present has only one guy (Lester) who really belongs there. Hopefully Beckett will return soon and make that two, but we'll still be dealing with Lackey and Wakefield/Miller at the back end.
    Also Youk's injury is not helping one bit.

     
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    [QUOTE]another constant reminder... one caller said you would hope Lester gives you a good 5 or 6 innings, to which he was countered with "that's all you expect out of your best pitcher? you may as well pack it in now, because what you should expect is your ACE to go 7 or 8, out-duel Shields and then have Pap come in to close it out." BurritoT has told you all time and time again all summer, if your best pitchers can't go more than 6 you have got a BIG problem on your hands. 
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]
    You are exactly correct. I've been saying for years now that the bullpen solution is simple. The first day of spring training, the starting pitchers need to be reminded that the game lasts at least 9 innings. They should be told that they will be expected to be able to go NINE innings. The relievers need to be told that each and every one of them should be prepared to go a minimum of four innings, including the closer. By doing this, the number of needed relievers would be fewer.
    In my mind, there is no point in having starting pitchers be satisfied with six good innings. These are big strong men, they need to be treated as such.
     
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    I once remember a guy who became a leader of men who had really no track record of success. He failed miserably at the start of one season. Even in his prime later on his career, he lost more than he won from an in-game aspect. When he had a skeleton crew due to loss of his men for various reasons, he kept it together. When it was all said and done, he did a pretty good job, the men believed in him and they won out....George Washington.
     
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    [QUOTE]I once remember a guy who became a leader of men who had really no track record of success. He failed miserably at the start of one season. Even in his prime later on his career, he lost more than he won from an in-game aspect. When he had a skeleton crew due to loss of his men for various reasons, he kept it together. When it was all said and done, he did a pretty good job, the men believed in him and they won out....George Washington.
    Posted by dannycater[/QUOTE]

    And he didn't cut down the cherry tree, right?
     
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    Re: What does Francona see that 99% of the population doesn't?

    Minor Observation:
    this team is on pace to win 95 games.....before the season started, would you have taken 95 wins??
    You guys are so reactionary....all the Tito haters come out when they lose a few...then we dont hear from any of them when the team goes on a tear...why is that?
    Lets look at the current list of players not playing recently due to injury
    Youk
    Drew
    Beckett
    Dice-K
    Bucholz
    Jenks

    That is your starting 3rd baseman, all star, clean up hitter, your starting right fielder...I know, he wasnt great but look at how badly Reddick is slumping...your 1, 3, and 5th starters are gone, with only one of them comming back (hopefully) and your set up reliever has missed most of the season....and they are on pace to win 95 games

    I agree, Tito sucks........does anyone here have the ability to look at the big picture? Or can you all not see 2 feet in front of your own nose?

     
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    [QUOTE]What does Francona see that 99% of the population doesn't when: 1. He puts Matt Albers into a 4-1 game with the bases loaded and....KABOOM. Albers had allowed 27 hits in his previous 16 1/3 innings.  2. Continues to use Darnell McDonald, pinch hitting him for Reddick. 3. Play Jed Lowrie. Answers from Red Sox nation?
    Posted by ADG[/QUOTE]


    I think thre Red Sox should make every effort to get Madden from TB and let Francona walk. Madden, if not the best, is certainly among the best managers in the game.
     

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