Re: What to do with Garin Cecchini?
posted at 9/3/2013 2:59 PM EDT
In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to notin's comment:
There are only two chances for Cecchini as an MLB starter next April.
1. The Sox have injury issues on the left side of the infield.
2. Cecchini is with another organization.
If the Sox bring Drew back long term, it does hamper Cecchini's future chances in Boston somewhat. He would probably have to move to the OF, or become an attractive trade bait. And the Sox will move him in the right deal..
Hopefully if they move him, they get back some controllable quality. .
The first base opening is also a possibility down the road for both Middlebrooks and Cecchini and I suppose Boggy too, whichever is the worst fielding 3Bman of the 3.
As ctred pointed out, our OF is the weakest position in our farm system. Perhaps Cecchi could move to OF. He has some speed. We do have Victorino for 2 more years, a Nava/Gomes LF platoon for 2014 with Nava under team control for more after Gomes, and even Carp in the mix. JBJ may make the team next year, and perhaps Brentz might by 2015. If Ellsbury is signed longterm, there really shouldn't be any OF openings until Gomes leaves after 2014, and Victorino after 2015.
I want to agree and reiterate my point of outfield weakness. It does appear that we will have the Gomes/Nava platoon in left, with JBJ in CF and Shane Victorino in RF.
That's actually a decent outfield that I would be comfortable with, but I'm still concerned with the depth.
If Shane Victorino goes down, who plays right? I know Nava can slide over but that does two things, it puts him and Gomes in the lineup any given night and depending on who's pitching one of them is basically an out. Also Nava equates to less defense in right field. I like JBJ and Iam optimistic, but we are also relying on a rookie to add value there next year. I think He's better defensively than Ellsbury but have no idea what he will add on offense. I'm not comfortable with Brentz stepping in either. I'm not convinced, nor have I really heard any scouts recently step up to the plate to defend him, that he is an everyday outfielder. It is possible he could come up and have short lived success but thats' nothing to bank on. We have depth options, but I don't think we have anyone who potentially WOULDN'T end up in a drastic reduction in production....and in two years when Shane and Gomes and possibly even Nava are out of the picture we effectively have zero options in the outfield after JBJ.
Of course a lot can happen, and I'd rather have outfield weakness than infield weakness in our farm system. A couple guys could emerge, I'm very hopeful on this Manuel Margot kid, but he's just 18. An ideal I've been throwing around in my head is Mookie Betts moving to the outfield but I don't know if his power is real and will translate to the MLB level. I really like him as a prospect a LOT....but I'm not 100% convinced that in 1-2 years from now we are starting threads about flipping him for young pitching or a catcher or an outfielder because he is blocked by Pedroia. I don't think he'd have the range for center and I don't think he has the arm for right, putting the offensive bar he has to clear in left field.
I do think that there is a decent chance that one of Cecchini/WMB/Bogaerts ends up in the outfield, not huge but it's there. I'd say maybe there is a 30% chance one of those guys ends up being our starting LF in 3 years from now. And that is a completely arbitrary number. I can see a trade happening within the next year as well, maybe even this offseason.
We do also have carp who can play LF in case of injury, but I agree that Nava or Gomes in RF should only be a last resort.
I think the Sox need to find a big middle order bat to hit behind Papi. Probably a righty. We have a few positions open this winter, but I doubt the catcher position nets us that bat. McCann is good, but he's not the stud hitter I think we need. That leaves 1B, 3B, and CF/RF. If we fill 3B with a stud, it would likely be short term or one or more of the leftside IF kids would be traded. That leaves 1B (the traditional bopper position) and CF/RF. Middlebrooks or Cecchini may end up at 1B, but getting a big bat there seems reasonable. Getting a CF'er (Shane stays in RF) or RF'er (Shane moves to CF) could also fill that gap and make an OF'er tradeable (assuming JBJ becomes the 5th OF'er).
I'd like this OF:
LF: Nava/Gomes platoon
CF: Victorino (JBJ)
RF: Stanton (SVict)
I actually think the Sox are going to roll with WMB at 3rd and Bogaerts at SS next season. Now that may change, but I think that will initially be the plan.
That almost leads me to believe that they may try to make a BIG splash in the trade market this offseason to pick up an outfielder or a 1B. Someone in the mold of Stanton, or someone Stanton(esq) or even Stanton himself. They may also go the FA route and throw some money at the Cuban 1B Abreau; if they like him I think they are going to make a serious run at him. That still leaves a big question mark in the lineup. Yes it's conceivable that Bogaerts is a ROY candidate (with JBJ right behind him) and WMB progresses and Abreau is as advertised but that's still a lot of young talent to rely on. Realistically a few of those things might happen and a 1-2 of those guys are likely going to experience some sort of growing pains.
I think having too much young talent is a good problem to have, but it also leaves a lot of question marks that I don't think the Sox are willing to deal with which leads me to believe they will either trade for a well known commodity or they will sign a few stop gaps this offseason.
I think Carp is still in the picture as well, especially with 1B a big unkown for next year. But I'm also starting to wonder if he may be expendable as well. Him and Nava kinda seem to be taking up the same roster spot.