What will become of De La Rosa?

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    What will become of De La Rosa?

    De La Rosa, Holt and Snyder were all sent down.

    Holt and Snyder are both those kind of guys thar are going to bounce up and down for their whole careers, so no surprsise there.

    But what about De La Rosa? He was the centerpiece of the LA trade and was touted as being a potential top tier starter. Now it seems that at 25 years of age he will spend the vast majority of the year in the minors again.

    Don't get me wrong, the Dodgers trade was fabulous, but I am starting to wonder about Rubby. I still see Webster as a guy that will be in the rotation, he will get some calls ups for spot starts this year and be in the rotation next year.

     

     

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    I actually still like de la Rosa better than Webster.

    I'm glad they are keeping him in the starter role.

    Like I said at the time of the trade, it was "perhaps one of the greatest Sox trades of my lifetime, even if we got no prospects in return."

    Anything de la Rosa or Webster gives us is gravy.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    I actually still like de la Rosa better than Webster.

    I'm glad they are keeping him in the starter role.

    Like I said at the time of the trade, it was "perhaps one of the greatest Sox trades of my lifetime, even if we got no prospects in return."

    Anything de la Rosa or Webster gives us is gravy.

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    I think that was my point, everyone like De la Rosa better than Webster initially.  Is it me or is his star plummetting? I don't hear him talked about as a potential top tier guy anymore.

    I agree on the trade. they could have traded those three and their contracts for anyone and I would have been happy.

     
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    It is pretty well anticipated that not all of the Sox top pitching prospects are all going to pan out as front line rotation pieces in Boston.

    Rubby may be the first guy to fall out of the group as he just seems to either leave too many balls in the middle of the strike zone or too many balls out of the strike zone at this time.

    We all hope that he can make a recovery, though.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    soxprospects.com...

    Scouting ReportLacks height, but has a well filled-out frame. Strong lower half. Fastball sits 94-97 mph, with sharp downward movement and explosiveness. Can top out at 98-100 mph when he reaches back. Heater shows ability to miss bats. Fringe-average command.  Inconsistent delivery. Arm heavy and struggles with his balance and locking in his arm slot.  Will need to refine delivery to enhance command. 84-87 mph changeup grades as plus-to-better. Strong depth and deep fade. Shows separation and deception between fastball. Can miss bats or produce weak contact. Also throws a fringe-average low-to-mid 80s slider. Flashes plus at times, but inconsistent staying on top of pitch. Tends to wrap wrist. Potential to round into a swing-and-miss offering. Ceiling of a number three starter on first-division team. Becoming more consistent with slider and refining overall command are keys to reaching ceiling as a starter. Late-inning reliever projection without improvement. Had Tommy John Surgery in August 2011.

     
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    He will be in his second full season following TJS and his innings won't be under the strict limits they were last year, so I'm hoping we'll start to get more of an idea of what we have here. In Pawtucket last year it seemed like he alternated stretches of being almost unhittable with stretches of being flat-out awful, with little in between.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    They will stretch him out as a starter with no limitations this year. How he performs this year will determine his future as a starter or in the bullpen.

    as with a few young Sox players, this is his year to step it up.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    Although de la Rosa is technically not a prospect, I still view him as such, since he lost development time with the TJ surgery.

    Here is a list of the Sox pitching prospects as ranked by soxprospects.com:

    3 Owens

    6 Barnes

    7 Ranaudo

    8 Webster

    9 Workman

    11 T Ball

    12 Britton

    15 Stankiewicz

    18 Johnson

    22 Callahan

    23 Mercedes

    24 Buttrey

    26 L Diaz

    27 Hinojosa

    29 Wilson

    30 Ramirez

    31 Kukuk

    32 Smith

    36 Gomez

    37 McGrath

    40 Wright

    42 Couch

    43 price

    44 Quevedo

    45 Martin

    46 Light

    47 Gunkel

    48 Pena

    49 Celestino

    52 Stroup

    53 Haley

    54 Aro

    56 Romero

    57 Almonte

    58 Jimenez

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    Are they still thinking sea dogs with Owens? 

    I wouldnt mind seeing him pitch in Portland a couple times this year. He dominated in 6 starts at AA last year. I wonder if they are just going to bump him right to Pawtucket.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    The trade with L.A. was an effective salary dump. De La Rosa and Webster were add ins. From day one, they have been overhyped by some on here. So far, their performance has not come anywhere near to matching the hype. Need to see some results before we start counting on these two guys.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    Anything de la Rosa or Webster gives us is gravy.

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    Absolutely true.

    But man, gravy can be so tasty sometimes.

     

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    If De La Rosa is pegged as a starter wouldn't the "demotion" be practical since he will pitch on a regular basis in AA or AAA rather than a part time starter or relief guy in Boston? I see the move as a way to grow strength in his arm and abilities as a full time starter.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    In response to 37stories's comment:

    Are they still thinking sea dogs with Owens? 

    I wouldnt mind seeing him pitch in Portland a couple times this year. He dominated in 6 starts at AA last year. I wonder if they are just going to bump him right to Pawtucket.




    Pawtucket's rotation is going to have Webster, Ranaudo, Barnes, De La Rosa, and possibly Workman if he's not in the major league bullpen. Maybe a AAAA type starter like Ely as well. Doesn't seem like there would be much need, or room, to rush Owens.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

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    Are they still thinking sea dogs with Owens? 

    I wouldnt mind seeing him pitch in Portland a couple times this year. He dominated in 6 starts at AA last year. I wonder if they are just going to bump him right to Pawtucket.

     

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    Pawtucket's rotation is going to have Webster, Ranaudo, Barnes, De La Rosa, and possibly Workman if he's not in the major league bullpen. Maybe a AAAA type starter like Ely as well. Doesn't seem like there would be much need, or room, to rush Owens.

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    That is probably the best AAA rotation the Red Sox have had in a long, long time.  The Red Sox are stacked with prospects at the SP position.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    In response to 37stories' comment:
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    Are they still thinking sea dogs with Owens? 

    I wouldnt mind seeing him pitch in Portland a couple times this year. He dominated in 6 starts at AA last year. I wonder if they are just going to bump him right to Pawtucket.

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    Right now, soxprospects.com has the farm pitching rosters like this:

                          

    Pawtucket

    Starters: Workman, Ranaudo, Webster, de la Rosa, Britton, Barnes

    Bullpen: Hinojosa, Layne, Villareal, Hill, Wilson, Watanabe, Cordero (Valdez/Resop)

     

    Portland

    Starters: Owens, Pena, Johnson, Augliera, Couch, Kehrt

    Bullpen: Ramirez, Celestino, Kurcz, Hernandez, Balcom-Miller, Price, Olmstead (Ruiz, Reed, Boscan)

     

    Salem

    Starters: L Diaz, Haley, Littrel, Stroup, Gomez, Kukuk

    Bullpen: Younginer, Martin, Ott, Quevedo, Cuevas, Kraus, D Diaz

     

    Greenville

    Starters: Callahan, T Ball, Stankiewicz, Buttrey, Light, Smith, Mercedes

     

     

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    Those rotations in Salem and especially Greenville should be fun to watch as well.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    Would Web and RDLR work out in a program with lower expectations in exchange for one of a teams top 3 prospect?  OR as part of a package for Stanton and Cishek?? or one of them along with WMB to the Astros for 3B Matt Dominguez and a prospect.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

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    Those rotations in Salem and especially Greenville should be fun to watch as well.

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    I like Greenville's as well, and if you go with just 5 starters at each level and bump down some starters, it could look like this:

    Pawtucket: Workman, Ranaudo, WebsterBritton, Barnes

    Bullpen: Hinojosa, Layne, Villareal, Hill, Wilson, Watanabe, Cordero (Valdez/Resop)

     

    Portland: Owens, de la Rosa, Pena, Johnson, Augliera

     

    Salem: Couch, Kehrt, L Diaz, Haley, Littrel

     

    Greenville: Stroup, Gomez, Kukuk, Callahan, T Ball, Stankiewicz

     

     Lower levels: Buttrey, Light, Smith, Mercedes

     

     

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    All I know is everytime I see De La Rosa he serves more meatballs than an Italian Restaurant. He needs to work things out in Pawtucket, not over yet. Wait and see on this guy.

     
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    Re: What will become of De La Rosa?

    my prediction - our 8th inning man.

     
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