What would you do this offseason?

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    What would you do this offseason?

    What I would do:

    - Re-Sign Napoli and Salty

    - Ditch Stephen Drew and turn to Bogaerts as my SS.

    - Try and re-sign Ellsbury, but if Scott Freakin Boras drives the price past 15 mill a year, I would ditch him for a veteran on a short term deal (Beltran, Granderson, Byrd)

    - Decline Thornton's option and, depending on how he does in the playoffs, maybe re-sign him for cheap

    - Hanrahan and Bailey: sayonara.

    - Not change the rotation at all

    - Sign Jesse Crain

    - Sign utility infielder (Alex Gonzalez?)

     

    Lineup (assuming Ellsbury leaves):

    Victorino

    Nava

    Pedroia

    Ortiz

    Beltran

    Napoli

    Saltalamacchia

    Middlebrooks

    Bogaerts

     

    Bench:

    Gomes

    Carp

    Lavarnway

    Gonzalez

     

    Rotation:

    Lester

    Buchholz

    Lackey

    Peavy

    Doubront

     

    Bullpen:

    Dempster

    Miller

    Crain

    Workman

    Tazawa

    Breslow

    CL: Uehara

     

     

     

     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from andrewmitch. Show andrewmitch's posts

    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    Yup, not bad.  I'd dump Gomes though.

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    1-See if Napoli wants $20M/2.  Assuming he says no, I'd offer Napoli, Drew, Salty, and Ells a QO.

    2-Assuming Salty declines, I'd ask about Ruiz for two year.

    3-Depending on how far we go, I might prepare the RSN for a bridge year.  You could let all four go, fill in cheaply with Bogaerts and Bradley, and cheap platoons at 1B and C, and re-stock the farm, while still having a competitive team.

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

     

    1-See if Napoli wants $20M/2.  Assuming he says no, I'd offer Napoli, Drew, Salty, and Ells a QO.

    If they all say yes, w'ed be over the luxury limit by about $20-25M, unless we find a way to dump Dempster and others to lessen the tax.

    Assuming Napoli's hip checks out OK this winter, I'd offer him $22M/2 with PA incentives that could bring him up to $28M/2. If he refuses, I'd offer him the $14M/1 QO. If he bolts, I'd go after K Morales or a great fielding SS and move Bogey to 3B and Middy to 1B with Carp seeing more 1B duty.

    I'd offer Salty $21M/2, and go up to $31M/3. If he says no, I'd overpay him with a short term QO of $14M/1 rather than way overpay for McCann for several years. Maybe by 2015, one of our prospect catchers will be ready.

    I'd offer Jacoby $60M/4, which means he walks.

    I would not offer Drew a contract, unless Napoli and Morales say no, then I'd think to offer him $16M/2 with PA incentives that could bring him to $22M/2. He would likely say no. I'd rather have a great fielding SS and move Bogey and Middy to 3B and 1B, but I doubt that happens.

     

    2-Assuming Salty declines, I'd ask about Ruiz for two year.

    Salty would take $14M/1 unless he thinks he can get $35M/3 or better (doubtful).

    Why Ruiz?

     

    3-Depending on how far we go, I might prepare the RSN for a bridge year.  You could let all four go, fill in cheaply with Bogaerts and Bradley, and cheap platoons at 1B and C, and re-stock the farm, while still having a competitive team.

    I thought Drew, Napoli, Gomes, Ross, Dempster, and to some extent Victorino were "bridge signings".

     




     

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from moonslav59. Show moonslav59's posts

    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    Here's a plan:

    Sign: Choo to play RF and move Victorino to CF.

    Sign: Cheap defensive whiz Brendan Ryan to play SS & move Bogey to 3B & Middy to 1B. (save a ton of dollars).

    Sign: Salty to a 1 or 2 year deal, even if we overpay a bit to get him to take it.

    Sign: the lefty Irishman RP, Eric O'Flaherty.

     

    1) Choo RF

    2) Vict   CF

    3) Papi  DH

    4) Pedey 2B

    5) Middy 1B/3B

    6) Nava/Gomes LF

    7) Salty C vs RHPs and Bogey 3B/SS vs LHPs

    8) Bogey 3B/SS vs RHPs and Ross C vs LHPs (or Carp 1B-Middy 3B-Bogey SS)

    9) Ryan SS (Bogey or Ross if Carp plays and Bogey at SS)

     

    Sox4ever

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from notin. Show notin's posts

    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    One thing the Sox will not need in 2014 is left-handed relief pitching.

     

    They will decline Thornton's option.  But will still have  Breslow, Morales, Miller, and Britton under team control.

     

    If anything, they might be unloading 1 or 2 LHRPs, not acquiring more.

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    Lets win the  W S  first !!!   Enjoy !!

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    I would resign Ellsbury first before the other three.  IF he doesnt want to return, then Boston can resign the next two to three FA's such as in order, Napoli, Salty and Drew.

    But why the world you want to sign Choo.  He is already ranking #3 to #5 best FA available. Meaning his contract could possibility be only 2 to 3 million dollars or less a year than Ellsbury's. Too much to sign him.   Best is to find a temporary CF who should cost twice less than Ellsbury such as Gardner, etc at the same time hopefully he can bat lead off.  Victorino stays in RF.  His hamstring problem will continue to be a problem next year or forever.  Bradley can be the forth OF.  He can rotate with the new CF guy and see who can do a better job over there.

    Dont resign any of BP pitching.  Let all go for good.  Sox will return Miller and Bailey (I wouldnt be surprise he will be traded).  Ben will sign a couple cheap BP pitchers like he have done it in past two years.

     

     

     

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    no offense , but who cares right now?

    It's Septmeber 25th and the playoffs start next week and you're actually pondering what will happen in the off season? 

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    Sign Choo for 4 yr deal $$60M to play LF (been long since I wanted him).  He has one of the strongest arm and solid defense could save pretty good number of runs.  Good OBP guy who can produce 20-20 yearly.  Choo-JBJ-Vic could be one of the best OF combo in the major both offensively and defensively.

    Few say Salty has boosted his trade value the most.  We have few potential frachise catchers in the minors in Swihart and Denney but nothing hasn't been promised yet with those two and still few yrs away to have impact.  I won't go beyond 3 yr with Salty but I think Salty might take little bit less to come back to Boston, especially if we have successful postseason.  I see Ben giving Salty 3 yr $39M offer or little more and Salty taking it.  Could add one or two team options.

    Try to trade Dempster to NL and minimize return by having the trading team eat some of his salary.

    Re-sign Naps to multi yr deal.  Can shift him to DH after Ortiz retires.  I would offer Naps 3 yr $45M.  

    Look to extend Lester at discount, if failed, just pick up his option

    sign JP Howell.

    Trade Carp.  He could net us a solid prospect.  

    Lineup

    Shin Soo Choo LF

    Shane Victorino RF

    Dustin Pedroia 2B

    David Ortiz DH

    Mike Napoli 1B

    Will Middlebrooks 3B

    Jarrod Saltalamacchia C

    Xander Bogaerts SS

    Jackie Bradley Jr. CF

    Bench: Daniel Nava OF/1B, David Ross C, Jonny Gomes OF, Brock Holt UTIL

     

    Rotation

    Clay Buchholz

    Jon Lester

    Jake Peavy

    Felix Doubront

    John Lackey

    BP

    Brandon Workman

    Drake Britton

    Junichi Tazawa

    JP Howell

    Rubby De La Rosa

    Craig Breslow

    Koji Uehara - CL

     

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    I would enjoy this season first and not worry about next year until after the playoffs!!!!!!!!

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    In response to splendidsplinterteddyballgame's comment:

    I would enjoy this season first and not worry about next year until after the playoffs!!!!!!!!




    Agree, also Post-Season performances both the up and down changes a lot of things.  Another good thing good time to really evaluate what you got. How well they play (especially the kids), under pressure.

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    1. Resign Els if numbers are reasonable, if not insert Bradley Jr. in CF

    2. Let Napoli go, and trade for a RH power bat with high OBPand low SO to play LF. (or go after Abreu to play 1B)

    3. With the acquisition of power bat in LF, make Nava the everyday 1B.

    4. Let Drew walk, and put Boggaerts at SS.

    5. Resign Salty.

    Els CF, Victorino RF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz DH, new LF'er or Abreu 1B, Middlebrooks 3B, Nava 1B or LF, Salty C, Boggaerts SS, to start the season with the option of juggling the batting order in accordance with who's hot and who's not.

     

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    I kinda like the Nava/Gomes platoon in LF. Using Nava in RF and 1B occaisonally is fine, but I think it should not happen often. The one who sits makes for a great PH'er and 4th OF'er.

    I'm OK with letting JBJ start in CF, but we need to have a plan, in case he struggles. I'm not sure we can go with this OF for an extended time (I cringe thinking of the defense):

    LF: Gomes/Carp

    CF: Victorino

    RF: Nava

    I could see us signing a guy like Corey Hart or Mike Morse who could play 1B, but also cover RF, in case JBJ struggles or Shane gets hurt (at which point, Carp plays 1B).

    Somewhere within our 3 "holes" (C, 1B, and RF/CF) we need to try and obtain a big bopper clean-up hitter, so we can move Papi to the 3 slot. If we do that, I'm OK with leaving 1 or 2 of the other slots to "in-system" solutions.

    Sox4ever

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    I kinda like the Nava/Gomes platoon in LF. Using Nava in RF and 1B occaisonally is fine, but I think it should not happen often. The one who sits makes for a great PH'er and 4th OF'er.

    I'm OK with letting JBJ start in CF, but we need to have a plan, in case he struggles. I'm not sure we can go with this OF for an extended time (I cringe thinking of the defense):

    LF: Gomes/Carp

    CF: Victorino

    RF: Nava

    I could see us signing a guy like Corey Hart or Mike Morse who could play 1B, but also cover RF, in case JBJ struggles or Shane gets hurt (at which point, Carp plays 1B).

    Somewhere within our 3 "holes" (C, 1B, and RF/CF) we need to try and obtain a big bopper clean-up hitter, so we can move Papi to the 3 slot. If we do that, I'm OK with leaving 1 or 2 of the other slots to "in-system" solutions.

    Sox4ever




    All good points.  However, I do not see Ortiz in the #3 slot.  Neither Pedroia nor Victorino is suited for the leadoff spot for a full season, thus resulting in the need to move one of them down in the order to make room for Ortiz at #3.  I think they'll leave Victorino #2 and Pedroia #3 with Ortiz #4. 

    Put a legitimate RH thumper with high OBP and low SO mode at #5, and Ortiz will see a lot more fastballs and should have an over-the-top season.

    However, if Els departs, then perhaps they'll be forced to move Victorino to #1, Pedroia #2, and Ortiz #3.  But they'll still need that legitimate RH thumper that I'm dreaming of to hit behind Ortiz.  Personally, acknowledging that it is a risk, I'm still high on going after Abreu.

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    Peavy pitched 219 innings in 2012...

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

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    I kinda like the Nava/Gomes platoon in LF. Using Nava in RF and 1B occaisonally is fine, but I think it should not happen often. The one who sits makes for a great PH'er and 4th OF'er.

    I'm OK with letting JBJ start in CF, but we need to have a plan, in case he struggles. I'm not sure we can go with this OF for an extended time (I cringe thinking of the defense):

    LF: Gomes/Carp

    CF: Victorino

    RF: Nava

    I could see us signing a guy like Corey Hart or Mike Morse who could play 1B, but also cover RF, in case JBJ struggles or Shane gets hurt (at which point, Carp plays 1B).

    Somewhere within our 3 "holes" (C, 1B, and RF/CF) we need to try and obtain a big bopper clean-up hitter, so we can move Papi to the 3 slot. If we do that, I'm OK with leaving 1 or 2 of the other slots to "in-system" solutions.

    Sox4ever

     




     

    All good points.  However, I do not see Ortiz in the #3 slot.  Neither Pedroia nor Victorino is suited for the leadoff spot for a full season, thus resulting in the need to move one of them down in the order to make room for Ortiz at #3.  I think they'll leave Victorino #2 and Pedroia #3 with Ortiz #4. 

    Put a legitimate RH thumper with high OBP and low SO mode at #5, and Ortiz will see a lot more fastballs and should have an over-the-top season.

    However, if Els departs, then perhaps they'll be forced to move Victorino to #1, Pedroia #2, and Ortiz #3.  But they'll still need that legitimate RH thumper that I'm dreaming of to hit behind Ortiz.  Personally, acknowledging that it is a risk, I'm still high on going after Abreu.

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    Good points, but I think as Papi ages, he needs strong protection behind him, thus the bat 3rd idea.

    If we don't get a "thumper", I'd put Papi 3rd and Pedey 4th.

    If we get Choo, we could go...

    1) Choo

    2) Vict

    3) Papi

    4) Pedey

    5) Thumper

    or

    3) Pedey

    4) Papi

    5) Thumper

     

    Papi 5th is not a bad idea, esp against lefties.

     

     
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    Re: What would you do this offseason?

    Then make your point without wild inaccuracies and exaggerations

     Is it really that hard?

     
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