What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?

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    Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?

    The big one was Bailey going down, which had a trickle down affect for the whole bullpen. All 10 losses had the bull pen going south one way or another.
     
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    who put together that bullpen then?
     
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    Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?

    All of the above...to some degree.

    ...and, none of the above.

    There is no one reason.

    There is no good that can come out of finger pointing and looking for blame.

    The team is a combination of players that are; in their prime ( too few in that category) , past their prime, never had a prime, will never have a prime, and a few hard workers who are trying their best.

    The team's biggest problem is they failed to improve a subPar bullpen and in fact weakened it by moving one of the good ones to the rotation. Also two vital positions are not yet resolved as in catcher and shortstop.

    But the real big problem , which has lingered on with nothing but a wait and see attitude...the 3 starters who continue to struggle. Three guys who are supposed to be All Star calibre. Beckett, Lester and Buchholz. So far they continue to be erratic, continue getting into hitters counts and elevating their pitch counts too soon.

    The team itself is not that good, but should be better than this.

    The pitching in a nutshell stinks. And if it continues expect to compete with Baltimore for last place.
     
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    Pitching and a tough schedule.

    DET, TOR, TB, TEX and NY now next 22 vs. MINN, ChiSox, CLE, OAK, KC, BALT, SEA. 
     
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    My reasons:

    our bullpen
    the decision to let paps walk w/o bard taking over
    ben's lackluster signings
    keeping the beckett/youk whiner brigrade intact (henry/LL/BC?????)

    and if Bobby V contiues to pull starters out after 99 pitches, then why did we replace Tito again?
     
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    In Response to What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?:
      Andrew Bailey out to start season Clay Buchholz's performance Bullpen failures 2011 hangover Manager Bobby Valentine Terry Francona's absence Injuries Negative media coverage GM Ben Cherington Red Sox ownership Former GM Theo Epstein Carl Crawford's setback Star players not taking charge
    Posted by 2004Idiots


    Bailey - 15%
    Clay   - 10%
    Bullpen- 15%
    Hangover - 2%
    BobbyV   - 3%
    GM         -20%
    Ownership - 1%
    Tito          -0%
    Theo       -5%
    Injuries    Bailey - 15%& 5% Crawford included
    Crawford   -4%
    Media        -0%
    Players     -20%


     
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    We have two position players on the team that can hit and play defense; Pedey and Agon, that's it!
    The pitching is abysmal on both ends and our starting line-up could not beat the Paw-Sox IMO.
     
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    Canada.
     
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    In Response to Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?:
    All of the above...to some degree. ...and, none of the above. There is no one reason. There is no good that can come out of finger pointing and looking for blame. The team is a combination of players that are; in their prime ( too few in that category) , past their prime, never had a prime, will never have a prime, and a few hard workers who are trying their best. The team's biggest problem is they failed to improve a subPar bullpen and in fact weakened it by moving one of the good ones to the rotation. Also two vital positions are not yet resolved as in catcher and shortstop. But the real big problem , which has lingered on with nothing but a wait and see attitude...the 3 starters who continue to struggle. Three guys who are supposed to be All Star calibre. Beckett, Lester and Buchholz. So far they continue to be erratic, continue getting into hitters counts and elevating their pitch counts too soon. The team itself is not that good, but should be better than this. The pitching in a nutshell stinks. And if it continues expect to compete with Baltimore for last place.
    Posted by ZILLAGOD
    ........... Rocky Balboa: "  At least you had a prime. I never had no prime. "
     
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    Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?

    Simple - Just plain bad baseball being played on a regular basis.  Poor clutch hitting, pitching and fielding.  Even with the injuries and schedule there is enough talent to be better than 4-10.  Its hard to think of anyone on the roster who hasn't contributed negatively so far (maybe Papi and Doubrandt).  Some are trying too hard and others not hard enough.  Some roles need to be redefined, whether the players like it or not.
     
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    Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?

    It starts at the top
     
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    The Off Season moves were terrible. 

    They haven't made a decent off season move since signing Gonzo.  And this season was an absolute debacle.  They couldn't even get the compensation for Theo settled in a timely fashion.  The process for hiring a Manager was embarassing.  Kicking Tito on the way out was embarassing.  And the bullpen is a joke.

    The season gets hung on ownership - period.
     
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    None of the above individually but many of the above. There is no simplistic scapegoating at one specific cause here. I know that this is atypical of the usual response here.
     
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    Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?

    It is called Karma people, and this team has some coming to it!
     
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    In Response to Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?:
    Canada.
    Posted by LloydDobler


    +1
     
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    theo, theo, theo. how easy could the answer be. this moron emptied the piggy bank on one bad signing after another forcing the SOX to shop at the dollar store. here's the truth; theo doesn't walk on water; over the last 4 years he was the worst GM in basball. now he's in chi town; gauranteed he'll fail miserbly there also.
    Posted by mryazz




    Were you Law here before? We've heard this bash Theo rant for four years now and are tired of it. Are you capable of doing anything else? Can you whistle and walk at the same time?
     
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    Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?

    This can be called an organizational problem. Lots of $ spent and little to no return on the investment. The question now is can this team keep it's head above water until Matsuzaka, Hill, Crawford, Ellsbury, Bailey and Cook are on board?

     
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    Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?

    It is easy: the players, ownership, and theo.
     
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    In Response to Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start?:
    In Response to Re: What's mostly to blame for the Red Sox poor start? : are you tired of it? does it ruin your day? does it interfere with your fantasy thoughts of theo? you are a complete and utter maroon. and quit stalking my posts or i'll tell your mother you're not taking your medication you dim wit.
    Posted by mryazz



    Now this is entertainment, thanks!
     
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