Where are all the teams banging on Tim Wakefield's Door? A "15 game winner" should garner some interest

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    The man is begging for a contract in a market that does not exist. Wakefield's market is a minor league contract to tryout for a major league deal. Any GM that signs this guy to a major league contract will regret it. 2.5 years and 45 years old does not lie. Wakefield belongs in AAA for some NL team desperation call-up.
     
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    In Response to Re: Where are all the teams banging on Tim Wakefield's Door? A "15 game winner" should garner some interest:
    [QUOTE]Yes, notin. A healthy 4th starter will get 32-33 starts a year... maybe one less than the ace. A 5th starter might get 30 if he is succesful and healthy. Those games are just as important as the 1-2-3 slot games. Having a quality 6/7 guy helps too. You are right notin, you were pretty much alone on the Buch thing in 2009. I was one who lost faith. I admit it. I remember reading a quote by Buch where he said something about losing his confidence, and I thought, "man, if this guy is saying this, he's toast." I was wrong, as were many others. 
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

     I'm still not convinced on Buchholz. Compare him to Jon Lester, a pitcher on the same team, with the same offense and defense to support him. Clay would have to go an amazing 41-10 just to get to Lester's level. He'd also have to go 24-5 to equal Chien Ming Wang, makes you think right? Throw in durability, advantage Lester. Mental toughness, advantage Lester. I think it was 791, always making a point about in Buch's breakout year his BABIP didn't jive with his results. and a regression should be expected. Clay Buchholz continues to get respect that he hasn't yet earned. He's had one good season, that's ONE, folks. Can he do it again? Who knows?
     
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    Re: Where are all the teams banging on Tim Wakefield's Door? A "15 game winner" should garner some interest

    In Response to Re: Where are all the teams banging on Tim Wakefield's Door? A "15 game winner" should garner some interest:
    [QUOTE]The man is begging for a contract in a market that does not exist. Wakefield's market is a minor league contract to tryout for a major league deal. Any GM that signs this guy to a major league contract will regret it. 2.5 years and 45 years old does not lie. Wakefield belongs in AAA for some NL team desperation call-up.
    Posted by hankwilliams[/QUOTE]

    Softy, on average 2.5 starters out of a team's top 7 starters by games started had an ERA similar or worse than Wake's in 2011. Maybe some GMs regretted having to use these guys, but it's not like they had many options except to wish and pray the guys they picked up did better. Most didn't.

    Take a look at the bottom tERA's of the top 94 AL pitchers in 2011 (14 teams x 7 starters = 94):

          (with Games started) 
    94 Matusz   8.04  (10)
    93 O'Sull     6.73  (12)
    92 Miller     6.44  (12)
    91 Drabek  6.42  (14)
    90 Talbot   6.27   (12)
    89 Reyes   5.66   (25)
    88 Z Stew  5.64  (11)
    87 Chatwd 5.57  (25)
    86 Hunter  5.57  (11)
    85 Litsch    5.48  (8)
    84 Berg      5.48  (12)
    83 Lackey 5.41   (28)
    82 Slowey 5.40  (8)
    81 Blackb  5.37  (26)
    80 Hughes 5.36  (14)     (7th starters by tERA)
    79 Arrieta  5.34  (22)
    78 Duffy     5.33  (20)
    77 Penny   5.32  (31)
    76 Cecil      5.26  (20)
    75 Simon   5.19  (16)
    74 Davies  5.17  (13)
    73 Burnett 5.16  (32)
    72 Furb      5.14  (12)
    71 Villan    5.12  (13)
    70 Guthrie 5.09  (32)
    69 Pineiro 5.03   (24)
    68 Wake    5.02  (23)
    67 Beaven 4.98  (15)
    66 Harden  4.91 (6th starters)
    65 Garcia   4.88  (25)
    64 Tomlin  4.83  (26)
    63 Carm    4.82  (32)
    62 W Dav   4.80  (29)
    61 Duens   4.70  (28)
    60  Chen    4.68  (25)
    59 Ogando 4.65  (29)
    58 C Lewis 4.62  (32)
    57 Gomez   4.60  (10)
    56 Alvarez  4.58  (10)
    55 Holland  4.56  (32)
    54 Hochev  4.54  (31)
    53 Scherz   4.54  (33)
    52 Britton  4.51   (28)  (5th starters)
    51 Buerhle 4.50  (31)  (4th starters)

    That's a pretty long list of 43 starters with tERA's at 4.50 or over.
    Wake rated as a top 6th starter. Nobody is saying the guy is great, but look at how many did worse than him, and how much cash some of them made. 
     


     
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