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    Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    I understand there are so many to choose from but for me it is the napoli disaster .. but his funny obsession with lillibridge was quite entertaining too...

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    hiring Bobby V!!

     

    ....wait that was LL

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    Bobby V was LL...but Cherry's refusal to support him during Aviles/Pedroia tantrums was a bad move...

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    Marlon Byrd did not work out well, but he was new and did not have much in the way of resources.

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    In response to georom4's comment:

    Bobby V was LL...but Cherry's refusal to support him during Aviles/Pedroia tantrums was a bad move...




    I don't think blindly supporting a dolt like BV would have been a good idea. you shouldn't support him right or wrong (which BTW he was wrong.... very wrong). If he is being an idiot call him out on it. BV was so quick to do it to others why shouldn't it happen to him?

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    if you think pedroia was right to lecture the new manager how things are done in boston after his part in 2011, you deserve the chaos we got in 2012

     

    pedroia should have been benched a few games to be taught a lesson..end of story



     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

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    if you think pedroia was right to lecture the new manager how things are done in boston after his part in 2011, you deserve the chaos we got in 2012

     

    pedroia should have been benched a few games to be taught a lesson..end of story






    if you think BV was right publicly chastise Youk for no reason then you deserve the BV antics of 2012.

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    if you think Youk was victimized you deserve to be a Yankee fan in 2013..

     

    Youk is a traitor

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

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    if you think Youk was victimized you deserve to be a Yankee fan in 2013..

     

    Youk is a traitor




    youk did himself no favors and i rallied to see him traded.. but the start of the whole debacle was at the hands of BV.. the RS traded him, no reason to be mad he took 12Mil to play for the yanks. if we was a FA and the RS wanted him AND he took less money to play in Ny then he would be a traitor

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    In response to georom4's comment:

    I understand there are so many to choose from but for me it is the napoli disaster .. but his funny obsession with lillibridge was quite entertaining too...




    So you are criticiziing him for a deal that has not happened yet and may not happen at all?? Fact is he was offered a 3/39 deal pending a physical that he did not pass, so NO DEAL YET!

    To bring up Lillibridge is a complate joke...he moved Youkilis because he lost his job and needed to be moved...period. The fact that the White Sox let Youk walk meant the deal was a wash for the most part. The players the Sox acquired were not expected to help the major league team...not even Lillibridge, who's a Cubbie now.

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    In response to georom4's comment:

    I understand there are so many to choose from but for me it is the napoli disaster .. but his funny obsession with lillibridge was quite entertaining too...



    The obession with Lillibridge is on your end. He traded a hurt player without a position batting 230 what did you expect Wil Myers?

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    In response to georom4's comment:

    if you think pedroia was right to lecture the new manager how things are done in boston after his part in 2011, you deserve the chaos we got in 2012

     

    pedroia should have been benched a few games to be taught a lesson..end of story





    You never liked Pedroia since 2007. Bobby was the one that should have been bench.

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    Worse moves, in no particular order-

    • Not firing BV for saying Doubront had no out pitch
    • Not firing BV for saying Bard didn't throw enough changups
    • Not firing BV for pitching to Fielder instead of Young
    • Not firing BV for having a 1-0 game v TB, bases loaded, Bard tiring, and the only guys warming up in the BP are Albers and Justin Thomas (who?)
    • Not firing BV for not knowing if the MN pitcher was a lefty or a righty
    • Not firing BV for intentionally walking perhaps the worse hitter in BB.  A hitter who never got another basehit, who was cut a week later, and then retired.
     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

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    Worse moves, in no particular order-

    • Not firing BV for saying Doubront had no out pitch
    • Not firing BV for saying Bard didn't throw enough changups
    • Not firing BV for pitching to Fielder instead of Young
    • Not firing BV for having a 1-0 game v TB, bases loaded, Bard tiring, and the only guys warming up in the BP are Albers and Justin Thomas (who?)
    • Not firing BV for not knowing if the MN pitcher was a lefty or a righty
    • Not firing BV for intentionally walking perhaps the worse hitter in BB.  A hitter who never got another basehit, who was cut a week later, and then retired.



    You knew Bobby was going to be an unmitigated disaster in all things off-the-field.  But, even in my worst trembling fears, which were many last winter, I did not expect his game managing to be so absolutely, indefensibly horrible.

     

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

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    Worse moves, in no particular order-

    • Not firing BV for saying Doubront had no out pitch
    • Not firing BV for saying Bard didn't throw enough changups
    • Not firing BV for pitching to Fielder instead of Young
    • Not firing BV for having a 1-0 game v TB, bases loaded, Bard tiring, and the only guys warming up in the BP are Albers and Justin Thomas (who?)
    • Not firing BV for not knowing if the MN pitcher was a lefty or a righty
    • Not firing BV for intentionally walking perhaps the worse hitter in BB.  A hitter who never got another basehit, who was cut a week later, and then retired.



    Ha! How about not firing BV for embarrassing a rookie by pinch hitting for him in the middle of an atbat during a meaningless game.  BV should have been escorted out of the dugout in cuffs for that classless move.

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    I don't think he has made a"worse move" yet, this off-season.

    I'm thinking Michael Morse may be it--good power guy--but if you give much up and can't sign him it's  a bad move. 

    He has to talk to Morse and come close to a trade if he wants to sign Nap. I think if he waits too long he loses both. Nap to the Yanks as DH, 1b, PH, C. He fits perfectly in NY; that would be a Worse move.

    He loses Morse to the Rays; that would be a Worse move.

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    Lack of improving the starting pitching ?

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    Can't blame him for BV, Cherry didn't want to hire him and was probably not allowed to fire him.

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    In response to jasko2248's comment:

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    Worse moves, in no particular order-

    • Not firing BV for saying Doubront had no out pitch
    • Not firing BV for saying Bard didn't throw enough changups
    • Not firing BV for pitching to Fielder instead of Young
    • Not firing BV for having a 1-0 game v TB, bases loaded, Bard tiring, and the only guys warming up in the BP are Albers and Justin Thomas (who?)
    • Not firing BV for not knowing if the MN pitcher was a lefty or a righty
    • Not firing BV for intentionally walking perhaps the worse hitter in BB.  A hitter who never got another basehit, who was cut a week later, and then retired.



    Ha! How about not firing BV for embarrassing a rookie by pinch hitting for him in the middle of an atbat during a meaningless game.  BV should have been escorted out of the dugout in cuffs for that classless move.



    FWIW, I have limited time.  If I listed every bad move, I'd be here for a week.  He was always overrated as a field manager.  I saw enough of him as the NYM manager to know he didn't bring anything special to the game.  But he was so much worse in Boston than in NY.  It just seemed like he was completely unprepared.  

    He had Aviles sacrifice against Blackburn.  Blackburn was not only about the worst pitcher in BB, Aviles absolutely scorches the guy.  Aviles OPS against the guy is 1.495.  And this happened almost every game.

    Fielder had an OPS of .940.  Young had an OPS of .707 with a 112/20 K/W.  When you need a strikeout, you look for Young.  So who does he pitch to?  Fielder.  And why?  So he could see Morales pitch.

    And in an almost identical situation, he walks Matsui to load the bases.  Matsui hit .147.  And why?  Because he had seen Matsui get a lot of big hits.

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    In response to jasko2248's comment:

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    Worse moves, in no particular order-

    • Not firing BV for saying Doubront had no out pitch
    • Not firing BV for saying Bard didn't throw enough changups
    • Not firing BV for pitching to Fielder instead of Young
    • Not firing BV for having a 1-0 game v TB, bases loaded, Bard tiring, and the only guys warming up in the BP are Albers and Justin Thomas (who?)
    • Not firing BV for not knowing if the MN pitcher was a lefty or a righty
    • Not firing BV for intentionally walking perhaps the worse hitter in BB.  A hitter who never got another basehit, who was cut a week later, and then retired.



    Ha! How about not firing BV for embarrassing a rookie by pinch hitting for him in the middle of an atbat during a meaningless game.  BV should have been escorted out of the dugout in cuffs for that classless move.



    FWIW, I have limited time.  If I listed every bad move, I'd be here for a week.  He was always overrated as a field manager.  I saw enough of him as the NYM manager to know he didn't bring anything special to the game.  But he was so much worse in Boston than in NY.  It just seemed like he was completely unprepared.  

    He had Aviles sacrifice against Blackburn.  Blackburn was not only about the worst pitcher in BB, Aviles absolutely scorches the guy.  Aviles OPS against the guy is 1.495.  And this happened almost every game.

    Fielder had an OPS of .940.  Young had an OPS of .707 with a 112/20 K/W.  When you need a strikeout, you look for Young.  So who does he pitch to?  Fielder.  And why?  So he could see Morales pitch.

    And in an almost identical situation, he walks Matsui to load the bases.  Matsui hit .147.  And why?  Because he had seen Matsui get a lot of big hits.



    Ha!  Good stuff, Joe.  Woefully unprepared to say the least and the game had clearly passed him by. 

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    In response to georom4's comment:

    if you think pedroia was right to lecture the new manager how things are done in boston after his part in 2011, you deserve the chaos we got in 2012

     

    pedroia should have been benched a few games to be taught a lesson..end of story






    +1

     
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    Re: Which is the worst Ben Cherry GM move?

    In response to Softlaw1's comment:

    Crawbust

    Shane

    Dumpster

    S. Drew

     

    Too many to name just a few.




    I understand Shane is Victorino, Dumpster is Dempster, and S. Drew is self-evident, but who is Crawbust?

     
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