carl crawford or theo epstein?
btw, i saw where the angels resigned jared weaver for 5 years at 85 million.
for almost the same money, theo signed slackey.
does that also make you mad and/or disappointed?
there's an opening in chicago for a GM. would you be sad or happy if theo took that job?
i believe, based on einstein's free agent signings, john henry would release theo from his contract, if theo was interested in the cubs' position.
who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............
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posted at 8/23/2011 1:50 PM EDT
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posted at 8/23/2011 1:58 PM EDT
- S0ftl@w
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Would love to see Theo offered Cubs job, but there is no way the Cubs are going to offer Theo. They will offer the Tampa gm or other gm that doesn't offer record setting player contracts based upon career high years. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 2:18 PM EDT
- jete02fan
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In Response to who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:carl crawford or theo epstein? btw, i saw where the angels resigned jared weaver for 5 years at 85 million. for almost the same money, theo signed slackey. does that also make you mad and/or disappointed? there's an opening in chicago for a GM. would you be sad or happy if theo took that job? i believe, based on einstein's free agent signings, john henry would release theo from his contract, if theo was interested in the cubs' position.Yazzer, didn't you say that if he was the winning pitcher in that Yanks/Sox game that you would stop calling him Slackey??...
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posted at 8/23/2011 2:30 PM EDT
- PawsoxPhil
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I'm mad at Pavano and Contreras for not signing with Boston. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 2:37 PM EDT
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Just disappointed in Crawford. I always admired his brand of baseball and was hoping he would be a thorn to other teams and not still the Sox. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 2:40 PM EDT
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dissapointed but not mad....that would just dumb. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 2:42 PM EDT
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I am madder at Yazzer. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 2:43 PM EDT
- slomag
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In Response to who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:carl crawford or theo epstein? btw, i saw where the angels resigned jared weaver for 5 years at 85 million. for almost the same money, theo signed slackey. does that also make you mad and/or disappointed? there's an opening in chicago for a GM. would you be sad or happy if theo took that job? i believe, based on einstein's free agent signings, john henry would release theo from his contract, if theo was interested in the cubs' position.
Posted by theYAZZERWeaver is signing a contract extension in lieu of two years of arbitration. If you want to make a comparison to Weaver, it should be Lester, Buchholz, Pedroia or Youk.BTW, $85M is about what the Angels are paying for 4 years of Vernon Wells, who is making Carl Crawford look like Ted Williams. Everybody has successes and failures - with Gonzalez, Salty, Aceves, Albers, maybe Miller, and the contributions from the farm (Reddick & maybe Lavarnway), I'm going to put the past year in the win column for Theo. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 2:47 PM EDT
- craze4sox
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In Response to who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:carl crawford or theo epstein? btw, i saw where the angels resigned jared weaver for 5 years at 85 million. for almost the same money, theo signed slackey. does that also make you mad and/or disappointed? there's an opening in chicago for a GM. would you be sad or happy if theo took that job? i believe, based on einstein's free agent signings, john henry would release theo from his contract, if theo was interested in the cubs' position.
Posted by theYAZZER
Neither just yet YAZZER, when and if it goes on for a couple years like Crisp, Lugo and at times J.D. maybe but CC hasn't reached that point. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 3:01 PM EDT
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For all the talk about Crawford being a bust, here is his stat line since May 1....283 .315 .437 .752and his career line ....293 .334 .440 .773Realistically, how can you be disappointed in him? It's not like money makes you a better hitter. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 3:06 PM EDT
- theYAZZER
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In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:In Response to who are you madder at or more disappointed in............... : Yazzer, didn't you say that if he was the winning pitcher in that Yanks/Sox game that you would stop calling him Slackey??...
Posted by jete02fan
no jete, i'll always call him slackey.
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posted at 8/23/2011 3:07 PM EDT
- craze4sox
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In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:For all the talk about Crawford being a bust, here is his stat line since May 1... .283 .315 .437 .752 and his career line ... .293 .334 .440 .773 Realistically, how can you be disappointed in him? It's not like money makes you a better hitter.
Posted by slomag
I agree slomag, Carl hasn't been horrible lately. I do which Mags could convince him to shorten his stance a bit so he can get around on pitches a bit quicker but vets are vets. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 3:09 PM EDT
- theYAZZER
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In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:For all the talk about Crawford being a bust, here is his stat line since May 1... .283 .315 .437 .752 and his career line ... .293 .334 .440 .773 Realistically, how can you be disappointed in him? It's not like money makes you a better hitter.
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thanks for the stats; it just magnifies how large a fool theo einstein really is. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 3:27 PM EDT
- jete02fan
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In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in............... : no jete, i'll always call him slackey. and he beating the yankees should make you awfully embarrassed.no, not at all, Lackey pitched well, deserved to win.. no excuses,Yanks just got beat..chalk it up to "on any given day".....
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posted at 8/23/2011 3:30 PM EDT
- theYAZZER
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In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in............... : no, not at all, Lackey pitched well, deserved to win.. no excuses,Yanks just got beat..chalk it up to "on any given day".....
Posted by jete02fan
gee jete,
don't get too controversial on this board, or they'll ban you. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 3:41 PM EDT
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You-Kill-Us. Your sick-bay commando tactics are becoming nauseating. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 4:12 PM EDT
- mikeyintheboogiedown
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In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:I'm mad at Pavano and Contreras for not signing with Boston.
Posted by PawsoxPhil
Yeah but you got Crawford instead for more money, even better! -
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posted at 8/23/2011 4:14 PM EDT
- hill55
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Carl Crawford shares our disappointment.
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posted at 8/23/2011 4:18 PM EDT
- Diamondtalk
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Theo isn't going anywhere but his capable assistant Ben Cherington may want to further his career in Chicago just like Jed Hoyer did in San Diego. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 4:34 PM EDT
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I'm mad at Yazzer for his continual negative postings, and I'm disappointed in myself for reading them. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 4:47 PM EDT
- tomnev
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A Serious answer to a less than Serious post. I am very disappointed with Crawford....and not like many others for his offensive(take that any of two ways) performance. I am truly disappointed with his lack of aggressiveness on the bases.....the fact that he doesnt bust it hard many times out of the box....and his defense in left field. I knew he didnt have agreat arm, but he was a guy who was supposed to get to everything and I havent seen that at all this year. Alot of guys press when they get to a new team and their hitting suffers, but a great player should never let it affect his defense and aggresiveness. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 4:48 PM EDT
- Hfxsoxnut
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I think most Red Sox fans were hoping they were going to sign either Crawford or Werth. Pretty hard to predict this stuff. Maybe they could just stop signing big name free agents and let the owners pocket a bigger profit. -
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posted at 8/23/2011 4:49 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:I'm mad at Yazzer for his continual negative postings, and I'm disappointed in myself for reading them.
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posted at 8/23/2011 5:09 PM EDT
- dannycater
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In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:For all the talk about Crawford being a bust, here is his stat line since May 1... .283 .315 .437 .752 and his career line ... .293 .334 .440 .773 Realistically, how can you be disappointed in him? It's not like money makes you a better hitter.
Posted by slomagYou're right between the 224 million spent on Crawford and Lackey, you'd be a fool to think the two would perform with any reasonable expectations, just play below their career averages, but only since May 1 because April didn't count. I think it was money well spent, no? *did you mean to eat that?* -
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posted at 8/23/2011 5:35 PM EDT
- slomag
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In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in...............:In Response to Re: who are you madder at or more disappointed in............... : You're right between the 224 million spent on Crawford and Lackey, you'd be a fool to think the two would perform with any reasonable expectations, just play below their career averages, but only since May 1 because April didn't count. I think it was money well spent, no? *did you mean to eat that?*
Posted by dannycaterLackey is another story, but other than April, Crawford is giving you his career averages. So unless, every time you b1tch about him, you're recalling an April at-bat, I'd say if you're disappointed in him, that's on you. Personally, my feelings about Crawford haven't changes since day one - good player, tremendously over-paid, and Ellsbury's ticket out of town.