Re: Who do you want as manager in 2012?
posted at 10/14/2011 10:07 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Who do you want as manager in 2012?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who do you want as manager in 2012? : i am older than you my friend and went to my first Red Sox game to see my lefty idol KEN BRETT in the early 70s....saying Francona was the best manager we ever had is a joke...he was nowhere near the manager Dick Williams was and he reminds me of McNamara with his refusal to sub for aging (Buckner) ballplayers in deference to their experience....also, Sox managers have all been LOUSY...I liked Houk, I liked Morgan when he turned it around..I thought Kennedy was OK, Grady Little I couldnt even understand when he spoke let alone figure out his moves....Francona INHERITED a team that was one braindead move from probablty winning the championship...just like KC Jones won 2 titles after Bill Fitch/Larry Bird turned things around.... is KC Jones the best coach in basketball? i guess you can ask his last team he coached....then again you cant because they disbanded in the WNBA...trust me, our ex-manager is going nowhere unless he is hired to babysit a stacked club full of vets like he did in Boston....he wasnt a manager, he was a caretaker
Posted by georom4[/QUOTE]
Dick Williams was great in '67 but I think Yaz winning a triple crown and Lonborg coming out of nowhere to win 20+ games has a lot to do with his success that year. You could pretty much say the Williams inherited the '67 team just as you claim Francona inherited the '04 team.
Until September of this year this team was a group of guys that we all thought played well together and got along with each other. Francona did not have to police them as they were able to take care of it themselves...something changed this year that shattered that teamwork...and I certainly don't blame the manager for it, those guys must look in the mirror and say they gave it their all for the fans, the game and to the uniform name on the front of their jersey.
The problem I recollect with all the Tito bashers was they expected the team, stacked with hitters, to play small ball in EVERY close game or to change pitchers at the first sign of trouble, even if it meant the bullpen would take a week to recover...sorry I am not being a Tito apologist (as some like to call it), just someone who felt that some fans second guessing prowess was way overboard.
Believe me I witnessed a lot worse Sox managers than Francona since I started watching the team for real as a 10 year old. he was actually a breath of fresh air, although I will admit his time to leave had come, but not for the same reasons you bashers had.
georom, show us some of that managerial expertise you criticize so regularly and go out on a limb to identify a manager you believe, who is realistically available, to become the next Sox boss?
It wasn't hard at all for me to come up with Tony Pena's name...I also wouldn't mind seeing Ryne Sandberg come this way to see what he could do, although if Theo were smart he'd bring Sandberg back to his old team to be his 1st manager.