Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury?

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : If batting practice equals pop, then why don't the Red Sox sign that Tampa Bay goalie who hit a 400 foot home run in batting practice? He might at least play better defense than a Bellsbury. Being a goalie, I'm sure his CERA is fantastic and his hitting is already better than Varitek's.
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw[/QUOTE]

    softy now has two new names but they are B.S.
     
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    [QUOTE]BTW Ells just got his 4th hit of the game today.
    Posted by sindarin-erebor[/QUOTE]
    Congrats, he got four hits, three of them singles, in a losing effort. Call me when he performs well in a win. I don't expect my phone to ring until he is traded to the senior circuit, where his skills are envied.
     
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    Actually, it's the losses, especially ones in which the Sox fight back, that tell you most about character.  It was Ellsbury's triple to deep center that got the Sox off the dime--and produced three runs--two rbi's plus scoring the third off of a wild pitch.  

    Of course, if the Sox had won 14-4 with Jake getting 4 hits, softy would be saying they were meaningless because they weren't needed.  He's got an answer for everything. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : Congrats, he got four hits, three of them singles, in a losing effort. Call me when he performs well in a win. I don't expect my phone to ring until he is traded to the senior circuit, where his skills are envied.
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw[/QUOTE]


    What is it about Ellsbury that you really hate? Is it because he is a native American? Go ahead, you can admit it; there are a lot of bigots out there and one more is not going to make a difference.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : What is it about Ellsbury that you really hate? Is it because he is a native American? Go ahead, you can admit it; there are a lot of bigots out there and one more is not going to make a difference.
    Posted by PaulLaCourse[/QUOTE]
    Ellsbury also is or was a Morman. so maybe that's it.
     
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    It must be brutal to be Softlaw now.  Ells has melted him down to a puddle.  Where there once was a brain, it's like moldy swiss cheese.  Softlaw is now the BB equivalent of those people that gave up everything predicting the end of the world.  Now standing on the fringes of society trying to figure out how everything went so wrong.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : Gap power is comparable to Obama making promises he hasn't kept. Everthing may seem good in the beginning, but the guilty just end up lying to the people. Bellsbury has no pop, and that is a fact.
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw[/QUOTE]
    Gap power leads to tripples which in a leadoof spot lead to runs 9 times out of 10.
    What is ur deal just accept that u were wrong about 1 guy. beating a dead horse a little dont you think.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : George Costanza was also the reason for the Yankees success in the late 90's. Do you really want to go there?
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw[/QUOTE]
    although your wrong about ells..... this is pretty funny 
     
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    Apparently babe isnt smart enough to understand a players "role" on a team..Wonder what his next name will be? Looks like softflaw has a couple names, but the same ol' drivel....such a pathetic existence..
     
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    Interesting Ellsbury factoid from today's BDC Notebook...

    Jacoby Ellsbury matched his career high with four hits. He also reached 500 career hits when he singled in the first inning. Ellsbury hit that milestone in 432 games. Only two Red Sox outfielders reached 500 hits quicker. Ted Williams needed 385 games and Dom DiMaggio 428
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : Gap power is comparable to Obama making promises he hasn't kept. Everthing may seem good in the beginning, but the guilty just end up lying to the people. Bellsbury has no pop, and that is a fact.
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw[/QUOTE]

    9 Hrs. 23 2bs.  No pop.  Wow.  You are a fascinating study in human psychology Softy.
     
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    [QUOTE]Write ins are allowed. Do not make joke votes, or else I will send the poll czar after you.
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw[/QUOTE]

    Without Jacoby's contribution this season we may be in a bit of trouble going into the second half.  Adrian, Papi and Adrian have made a huge difference.
     
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    The biggest difference in this year's lineup is unquestionably Adrian Gonzalez.  But it's hard not to give Ellsbury a lot of credit as well.  He is second in the AL in hits, which is huge, and in the top 5 in doubles and runs scored.  But plenty of other guys--Youk, Big Papi, Pedey, and even Crawford, Salty, and Tek--have also contributed.  Two guys do not a lineup make.  But they sure help. 
     
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    [QUOTE]The biggest difference in this year's lineup is unquestionably Adrian Gonzalez.  But it's hard not to give Ellsbury a lot of credit as well.  He is second in the AL in hits, which is huge, and in the top 5 in doubles and runs scored.  But plenty of other guys--Youk, Big Papi, Pedey, and even Crawford, Salty, and Tek--have also contributed.  Two guys do not a lineup make.  But they sure help. 
    Posted by maxbialystock[/QUOTE]
    All that needs to be said in this thread. We could put anyone in at leadoff this season and still be an elite team, because it is Gonzalez driving that player in. If it weren't for the failed Crawbust hitting third experiment, Gonzalez may have 100 RBIs by now.
     
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    Damon.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : All that needs to be said in this thread. We could put anyone in at leadoff this season and still be an elite team, because it is Gonzalez driving that player in. If it weren't for the failed Crawbust hitting third experiment, Gonzalez may have 100 RBIs by now.
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw[/QUOTE]

    Actually, no. 

    Ellsbury is the only AL leadoff man (and maybe the only MLB leadoff man) with104 hits, 58 runs scored, 27 SB's, 23 doubles, 9 dingers, and an OPS of .838, etc.  There are probably half a dozen MLB teams right now who would bat him third.

    Ellsbury would have more runs scored, but Pedroia keeps erasing him with those grounders.  And of course AGon, great as he is, still leads the team in GIDP's.

    The simple fact is that the best leadoff hitters need guys behind them to drive them in, and the best rbi hitters need someone on base to drive in.  It's a team game despite all those individual stats, all-star selections, etc. 

    Crawford batting third was never going to happen over the long term, not with AGon as great as he is. 

    I like the current lineup through Ortiz and hope that Crawford will be an effective #6 hitter.  With AGon, Youk, and Ortiz right in front of him, he could get a lot of rbi's.  In Jason Bay's big rbi year of 2009, he often batted 6th or even 7th. 


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : Actually, no.  Ellsbury is the only AL leadoff man (and maybe the only MLB leadoff man) with104 hits, 58 runs scored, 27 SB's, 23 doubles, 9 dingers, and an OPS of .838, etc.  There are probably half a dozen MLB teams right now who would bat him third. Ellsbury would have more runs scored, but Pedroia keeps erasing him with those grounders.  And of course AGon, great as he is, still leads the team in GIDP's. The simple fact is that the best leadoff hitters need guys behind them to drive them in, and the best rbi hitters need someone on base to drive in.  It's a team game despite all those individual stats, all-star selections, etc.  Crawford batting third was never going to happen over the long term, not with AGon as great as he is.  I like the current lineup through Ortiz and hope that Crawford will be an effective #6 hitter.  With AGon, Youk, and Ortiz right in front of him, he could get a lot of rbi's.  In Jason Bay's big rbi year of 2009, he often batted 6th or even 7th. 
    Posted by maxbialystock[/QUOTE]
    Yes, let's blame Pedroia and Gonzalez for Jake's shortcomings. Why don't we blame the NRA and the Catholic Church while we are at it? I think an Indian curse is also creating a decrease in Bellsbury's runs scored.

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : Yes, let's blame Pedroia and Gonzalez for Jake's shortcomings. Why don't we blame the NRA and the Catholic Church while we are at it? I think an Indian curse is also creating a decrease in Bellsbury's runs scored.
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw[/QUOTE]

    jakes shortcomings? Yeah, I guess that All-Star selection is really hurting his reputation huh? by the way, Hows Tek doing with a couple dingers the other day? Guess he should hang em' up too...
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : jakes shortcomings? Yeah, I guess that All-Star selection is really hurting his reputation huh? by the way, Hows Tek doing with a couple dingers the other day? Guess he should hang em' up too...
    Posted by southpaw777[/QUOTE]
    A single game does not make a successful season. Nor does a half-season. Plenty of time for Jake and Varitek to show their true talent.
     
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     I'd like to see you put up Ellsbury's numbers.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : Gap power is comparable to Obama making promises he hasn't kept. Everthing may seem good in the beginning, but the guilty just end up lying to the people. Bellsbury has no pop, and that is a fact.
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw[/QUOTE]
    Umm, he has 10 HR, he just hit a HR leading off the game. 10 times 2=20. 20 HR IS GOOD FOR A LEADOFF HITTER. This isn't 1998, And by the way Ells just made a leaping catch at the wall saving a run about 3 minutes after alertly swiping 3rd when the catcher wasn't paying attention to him. He is smart, fast, has good power for a leadoff hitter, and his batting eye has improved. He is an all star player who you hate because of his injury last year. Get over it.
     
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    [QUOTE]Write ins are allowed. Do not make joke votes, or else I will send the poll czar after you.
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw[/QUOTE]

    you realy are a complete FOOL!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is more deserving of a spot than Bellsbury? : Umm, he has 10 HR, he just hit a HR leading off the game. 10 times 2=20. 20 HR IS GOOD FOR A LEADOFF HITTER. This isn't 1998, And by the way Ells just made a leaping catch at the wall saving a run about 3 minutes after alertly swiping 3rd when the catcher wasn't paying attention to him. He is smart, fast, has good power for a leadoff hitter, and his batting eye has improved. He is an all star player who you hate because of his injury last year. Get over it.
    Posted by b12696[/QUOTE]

    Ellsbury had better not hit too many home runs. Silly-Betty or Can You Dig It or Bald Predictions or one of his other alias names will say that Ellsbury is on steroids.
     
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