Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
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Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/17/2011 8:21 PM EDT
- Mr.Bump
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Francona -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/17/2011 9:10 PM EDT
- georom4
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is this a trick question? -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/17/2011 9:15 PM EDT
- pinstripezac32
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In Response to Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?:is this a trick question?
Posted by georom4
LOL
the real question IMO is
would maddon want the nyy or RS job
I think he's having to much fun as things are
perhaps in a few yrs he might say
''if you can beat them join them ''
but for now I think he's happy where he is -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/17/2011 9:16 PM EDT
- djbosox2004
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Maddon -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/17/2011 9:17 PM EDT
- jozee76
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You're kidding right? Maddon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/17/2011 9:30 PM EDT
- royf19
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Francona. -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/17/2011 9:44 PM EDT
- soxnewmex
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no brainer - Maddon
If you asked Yankee fans who they'd rather have Giardi or Maddon
no doubt you'd get the same answer - Maddon
he knows the book like those other guys, but he manages the actual game that's happening and trusts his instincts more often, knows when to forget about playing the percentages -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/17/2011 10:21 PM EDT
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Have to wonder what the sox would be like if maddon was the manager? -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/17/2011 10:32 PM EDT
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Maddon. Lot better coach and way better coaching staff. Better at exploiting weaknesses of opponents and pays attention to the small stuff,ex. shifts for Salty batting LH. This guy has a plan and it is obvious. On the other hand I don't think he'd sellout to metric baseball like TF has. A big part of the problem is Bill James. If TF is replaced, it would have to be by a guy that could be manipulated on the inside to perpetuate the metric approach. As long as JH finds value in Bill James then thats the way they'll go. It won't be too hard to find someone. -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 12:44 AM EDT
- VtRedSoxFan802
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Maddon. Much better manager than Francona. Funny how they both were interviewed years back for the job of manager of the Sox. Maddon was favored but the Sox front office thought that they needed someone with experience so they hired Francona. Too bad. -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 2:09 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?:Maddon. Much better manager than Francona. Funny how they both were interviewed years back for the job of manager of the Sox. Maddon was favored but the Sox front office thought that they needed someone with experience so they hired Francona. Too bad.
Posted by VtRedSoxFan802
hard to say 'too bad'
wasn't schilling part of the reason francona got the job -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 2:29 AM EDT
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Maddon...his decisions are based on performance anf NOT tenure. -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 4:30 AM EDT
- TheFutureNow
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Maddon - without a doubt.
Frankly I'd take back Grady Little at this point... -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 5:24 AM EDT
- udontnojack
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maddon,but he wouldn't want all the headaches that go with the sox job.the rich primadonnas,the press ,the fans -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 6:27 AM EDT
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Maddon but I would take Grady Little over Tippy the seed spitter! Tito is a nice guy from all accounts but he couldn't in game manage a little league team. His tactical skills are bottom of the barrel.Sorry Sox fans! Truth be told it's easy to win with a healthy roster and a team on a hot streak try winning without a couple of stars and your skills as a manager are needed,Tippy can't manipulate a game when needed. -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 6:28 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?:Francona.
Posted by royf19
This would be the time that you are mistaken. -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 7:01 AM EDT
- redsoxfanmoncton
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Maddoninterested to see if managers were switched, where sox would be now -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 7:20 AM EDT
- djbosox2004
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In Response to Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?:Maddon but I would take Grady Little over Tippy the seed spitter! Tito is a nice guy from all accounts but he couldn't in game manage a little league team. His tactical skills are bottom of the barrel.Sorry Sox fans! Truth be told it's easy to win with a healthy roster and a team on a hot streak try winning without a couple of stars and your skills as a manager are needed,Tippy can't manipulate a game when needed.
Posted by sportsbozo1
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Spot on!!!! -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 9:42 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?:no brainer - Maddon If you asked Yankee fans who they'd rather have Giardi or Maddon no doubt you'd get the same answer - Maddon he knows the book like those other guys, but he manages the actual game that's happening and trusts his instincts more often, knows when to forget about playing the percentages
Posted by soxnewmex
So if Maddon had the same record as Francona ,You would say that Maddon sucks? -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 9:49 AM EDT
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Maddon. Want an easy example. How about exploiting a weakness? Maddon understands Tek can't stop the running game so his team steals at will. He puts pressure on our pitcher and defense. Francona has no counter.
When we get one of our basestealers on late in a game, they often go late in the count, if they go at all. Instead of putting pressure on the pitcher and defense, we put the pressure on our hitter to hit with two strikes (if they actually steal), or ask multiple guys to get hits to score. It contributes to our 2-56 "trailing late" mark.
Francona has had the tremendous good fortune of having top talent every year. Maddon has to deal with constantly losing his top talent to higher bidders, yet he keeps his team in the thick of things. -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 9:51 AM EDT
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In Response to Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?:Francona
Posted by Mr.Bump
I think Maddon would demand more physical exercise and conditioning which this team might need. Terry is laid back and probably lets a lot of things go because he is more of a friend to our players. Maddon may not be as well liked but in my opinion is a better "all round" manager. -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 10:34 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?:Maddon. Want an easy example. How about exploiting a weakness? Maddon understands Tek can't stop the running game so his team steals at will. He puts pressure on our pitcher and defense. Francona has no counter. When we get one of our basestealers on late in a game, they often go late in the count, if they go at all. Instead of putting pressure on the pitcher and defense, we put the pressure on our hitter to hit with two strikes (if they actually steal), or ask multiple guys to get hits to score. It contributes to our 2-56 "trailing late" mark. Francona has had the tremendous good fortune of having top talent every year. Maddon has to deal with constantly losing his top talent to higher bidders, yet he keeps his team in the thick of things.
Posted by Encinitas
I like Francona, but can't argue with anything written here. -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 10:36 AM EDT
- georom4
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i think this is a trick question.... -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 10:58 AM EDT
- sindarin-erebor
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Can't add much more than has been brought up in this thread, but IMO I would take Maddon over Tito in a heartbeat. -
Re: Who would you rather have as manager of the Red Sox-Terry Francona or Joe Maddon?
posted at 9/18/2011 11:34 AM EDT
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Francona. High payroll or not, last year 2/3 of the BoSox players were minor leaguers by the end of the year because of an unbelievable number of injuries (Pedroia out for 2 months, Youkilis also for 2 months, Victor Martinez and Varitek, Lowell, Cameron, Buchholz, etc.) Beckett had an off year, and Lackey and Dice-K also disappointed. Yet amazingly the club lost only 1 fewer regular season games than the Rangers (AL champs) and Giants (NL champs). Just barely missed the playoffs. Now that's an amazing managing job.