In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to Joebreidey's comment:
In response to carnie's comment:
Here's a more pertinent question. Why all the hate for our World Series Champions?
I always find this the most interesting part of the discussion. Past the obvious, that Geo knows nothing about BB, and Bill knows nothing about the Red Sox, the obvious answer, imo, is that either Geo and Bill either hate the RS, or hate themselves.
Geo is pretty much on record for hating anyone that ever played for the RS, and the FO, so I think it is safe to assume that he hates the RS, and was damaged irreparably by 2004.
And who are the two biggest targets for Bill? Manny and Beckett, the heros of our 2004 and 2007 WSC.
I think Damon is one of the most annoying, cloying players ever to have left the RS, and I would still cheer his efforts in the historic G7. Bill and Geo are like this old divorced couple that spent 40 good years together, and are going to spend the rest of their lives having the divorce chew them up inside.
Even if these two want to wrongfully forget about the brillian 5 months by Beckett before September of 2011, why are they ignoring this...
Papi having just 1 more Sept RBI than Lowrie (8 to 7)?
Papi with just 2 RBI in the last 12 games (55 PAs)?
Reddick with a .713 OPS and just 2 RBI in 62 Sept PAs?
Lava in the last game: Ground out, K man of 1B & 3B, FO 1 & 2, GO 1 & 3, DP in the 9th with bases loaded? (Left 9 men on base)
Bard going 0-4 with a 10.64 ERA?
Miller 0-2 and 11.70?
Wheeler 0-1 and 10.38?
Lackey 0-2 and 9.13?
Weiland 0-2 and 7.36?
Lester and Wake both over 5.25 and a combined 2-5 (higher WHIP than Josh)?
Papelbon letting up a run or more in 3 of his last 4 appearances (4ER/4.2IP)?
Or, the Sox scoring only...
2 ERS against NYY and Burnett (5.25 ERA).
0 ERs vs Texas and Holland (4.13).
0 ERs vs TOR and a 1-0 loss to Henderson Alvarez. (Then 14 the next day)
2 ERS vs Wade Davis (4.36) and TB.
1 vs Shields and TB (followed by 18 vs TOR).
2 vs Hellickson and TB.
3 vs Niemann & TB.
5 vs van den Hurk & Balt after scoring another 18 runs the night before.
4 vs Tommy Hunter (4.86) & Baltimore.
1 vs Freddy Garcia & the Yanks.
2 vs Burnett (5.16) & the Yanks.
2 ERs vs Tommy Hunter and the O's.
3 ERs vs Alfredo Simon (4.90) and the O's.
It's easy to find players to blame. I don't get the need to, but if you have to, shouldn't just about the whole team be blamed?
Why then is Beckett gone, Moon? Please give us your reasons. Apparently you believe that 2011 was a successful year for him and certainly not his fault that the team failed. Also, explain why you think damon and beckett are the same type of ball players - champions as you say...I think that those two guys might be as opposite as can be ....one played everyday, made the most out of his talent, and never dogged a play in his career...the other? well, tell us again how they are the same...
beckett is gone because he had the 3rd biggest contract on the team. CC and A-gon are gone too.. does that mean they both are terrible?? if they are all so terrible then why did LA take on virtually ALL the contract AND give us their top 2 pitching prospects?? it seems that if they are as bad as you make them out to be that we would still be on the hook for a decent portion of the remaining monies and wouldn't have gotten squat back in terms of prospects..