Why are the Sox Winning?

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    Why are the Sox Winning?

         Let's face it...on paper, the Sox aren't a very imposing team. Yet, here they are, in first place in the rugged AL East.  They have accomplished this despite having an average bullpen...and are being carried primarily by their starting pitching. Here are the team stats: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/bos/boston-red-sox

         With a traditionally tough West Coast swing ahead of them...what must the Sox management do, if anything, to see to it that the Old Towne Team continues to drive and thrive in the second half of the season? Add a bat? Pitching help? Through help on the farm in Triple A?  

         Thoughts?

     
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    We're supposed to win.  We have a good team.

    We're probably a little over our heads because 12-8 in one-run games and should probably be .500 in one-run games.

     
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         Let's face it...on paper, the Sox aren't a very imposing team. Yet, here they are, in first place in the rugged AL East.  They have accomplished this despite having an average bullpen...and are being carried primarily by their starting pitching. Here are the team stats: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/bos/boston-red-sox

         With a traditionally tough West Coast swing ahead of them...what must the Sox management do, if anything, to see to it that the Old Towne Team continues to drive and thrive in the second half of the season? Add a bat? Pitching help? Through help on the farm in Triple A?  

         Thoughts?




    Good offense, good pitching, good managing and good health for the most part.

    The Yankees have their 5th string at third this afternoon.

    I think the key to winning this division considering the teams is involved comes down to health.

    Still 1\2 the season to play and of course the trade deadline pending, a key trade say a player like Cliff Lee could tip the balance to one of the contenders.

     
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         Let's face it...on paper, the Sox aren't a very imposing team. Yet, here they are, in first place in the rugged AL East.  They have accomplished this despite having an average bullpen...and are being carried primarily by their starting pitching. Here are the team stats: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/bos/boston-red-sox

         With a traditionally tough West Coast swing ahead of them...what must the Sox management do, if anything, to see to it that the Old Towne Team continues to drive and thrive in the second half of the season? Add a bat? Pitching help? Through help on the farm in Triple A?  

         Thoughts?

     




     

    Good offense, good pitching, good managing and good health for the most part.

    The Yankees have their 5th string at third this afternoon.

    I think the key to winning this division considering the teams is involved comes down to health.

    Still 1\2 the season to play and of course the trade deadline pending, a key trade say a player like Cliff Lee could tip the balance to one of the contenders.



    Before the 2007, Schilling said the team that wins would be the team that has the most starts from its regular rotation.  It was true in 2007, and the more I look at things, the more I see it continues to be true.  Too many people attribute these things to a kind of voodoo.  It's always your expected OPS and OPSa.  Every time you lose a player, those numbers decline.

     
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    We're supposed to win.  We have a good team.

    We're probably a little over our heads because 12-8 in one-run games and should probably be .500 in one-run games.



         Joe...do you think that the Sox will be buyers by the July 31st trading deadline? And, if so, how should they be looking to improve their team for the stretch drive?

     
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    We're supposed to win.  We have a good team.

    We're probably a little over our heads because 12-8 in one-run games and should probably be .500 in one-run games.

     

     



         Joe...do you think that the Sox will be buyers by the July 31st trading deadline? And, if so, how should they be looking to improve their team for the stretch drive?

     

     

     



    starting pitching would be nice....cliff lee would be nice..but i don't think so...we have the prospects to do it...but?

    matt garza would be nice also.

     
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    Why are the Sox Winning?


    let's ask Charlie Sheen Tongue Out

     
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    The locker room is cancer free.

     
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    We're supposed to win.  We have a good team.

    We're probably a little over our heads because 12-8 in one-run games and should probably be .500 in one-run games.

     



         Joe...do you think that the Sox will be buyers by the July 31st trading deadline? And, if so, how should they be looking to improve their team for the stretch drive?

     




    Do you think somehow they become sellers in the next 3 weeks?

     
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    Speed. The most under rated quality in baseball; as important on defense as it is on offense. Triples, stolen bases, double plays; take the Twins for example (please!) The Twins have 9 triples, the Sox have 23. The Twins have 26 stolen bases; the Sox have 66. The Twins are a slow, lousy, baseball team. The Sox have (after the 1st inning) a back to back quartet: Iglesius, Ellsbory, Victorino and Pedroia that can fly.

    Two reasons we're winning: pitching and speed.

     
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         Let's face it...on paper, the Sox aren't a very imposing team. Yet, here they are, in first place in the rugged AL East.  They have accomplished this despite having an average bullpen...and are being carried primarily by their starting pitching. Here are the team stats: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/bos/boston-red-sox

         With a traditionally tough West Coast swing ahead of them...what must the Sox management do, if anything, to see to it that the Old Towne Team continues to drive and thrive in the second half of the season? Add a bat? Pitching help? Through help on the farm in Triple A?  

         Thoughts?



    Pitching and SPEED

     
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         Let's face it...on paper, the Sox aren't a very imposing team. Yet, here they are, in first place in the rugged AL East.  They have accomplished this despite having an average bullpen...and are being carried primarily by their starting pitching. Here are the team stats: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/bos/boston-red-sox

         With a traditionally tough West Coast swing ahead of them...what must the Sox management do, if anything, to see to it that the Old Towne Team continues to drive and thrive in the second half of the season? Add a bat? Pitching help? Through help on the farm in Triple A?  

         Thoughts?

     



    Pitching and SPEED

     



    OPS+ and starting pitching. I am sure that speed plays a role in the OPS+ part.

     
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    The team is doing well at everything....offense, defense and over the last month the starting pitching has been improving and going deeper into games. Starters going 7 innings will help the pen by decreasing their work load. Also I think this year the Sox may play a little better on their west coast trip...traditionally the Sox have a lot of slow sluggers who stop hitting in LA, Oakland and Seattle...big ballparks and usually good pitching staffs will do that to you. This years team has more speed and more hitters who should do well playing in big parks where their gap power will play well. Think about it for a minute....Sox power is down but their ability to score has not been hampered by it all that much. Ellsbury, Victorino, Nava, Pedroia and Iglesias all have been getting on base if that keeps up maybe we will have some fun this year on the west coast.

     
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    The team is doing well at everything....offense, defense and over the last month the starting pitching has been improving and going deeper into games. Starters going 7 innings will help the pen by decreasing their work load. Also I think this year the Sox may play a little better on their west coast trip...traditionally the Sox have a lot of slow sluggers who stop hitting in LA, Oakland and Seattle...big ballparks and usually good pitching staffs will do that to you. This years team has more speed and more hitters who should do well playing in big parks where their gap power will play well. Think about it for a minute....Sox power is down but their ability to score has not been hampered by it all that much. Ellsbury, Victorino, Nava, Pedroia and Iglesias all have been getting on base if that keeps up maybe we will have some fun this year on the west coast.



         How the Sox do on this West coast trip will tell us a lot about this team. My main worry about this club is their bullpen.

         The Sox saved themselves from years of futility, aided by those idiots running the LA Dodgers, by trading away the bloated contracts of Carl Crawford, Josh Beckert, and Adrian Gonzalez. That may have been the greatest trade that the club has ever made. Addition by subtraction. 

         Hopefully, the Sox learned their lesson...and won't part with their best young prospects, to get a stop gap veteran pitcher/hitter for the stretch run.   

     
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    We're supposed to win.  We have a good team.

    We're probably a little over our heads because 12-8 in one-run games and should probably be .500 in one-run games.

     



         Joe...do you think that the Sox will be buyers by the July 31st trading deadline? And, if so, how should they be looking to improve their team for the stretch drive?

     



    I would think definitely yes.

    But right now, I think it is too early to know which pieces.  You almost can't go wrong adding another arm to the BP.  That almost can't go to waste.

    Almost everything else involves too many moving pieces.  I could see them moving Drew, starting WMB and holding their breath, but you'd need someone willing to ante a decent prospect for Drew, and that's difficult.

     
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    Depth and chemistry.  Just two all-stars, Ortiz and Pedroia, but contributors throughout the lineup and rotation.  Four different third basemen, three shortstops, three catchers, eight starters, a dozen or so relievers, etc., all contributing.  Terrific homestand with ace starter on the DL.  Maybe a need for a good righty bat, but two, Middlebrooks and bogaerts, are nearby at Pawtucket.  

    Chemistry is hard to measure, but the transformation from last year is tangible, in part because o Farrell, in part because of a reportedly better clubhouse.  Neither Bailey nor Middlebrooks griped about demotions and both are working their tails off.  Lackey is all new.  Gomes is growing on us. Iglesias improvement is off the charts.  Ellsbury is verging on 2011, maybe, but this time with lots of SB's.  Ortiz is making his big contract look like a bargain.  Those are all individual deeds, but underscore the collective nature of this resurgence.

    I like the speed thing, but would point to the best OPS in MLB as the chief cause of scoring.  On defense, no question Victorino and Iglesias are a big plus.  Ellsbury and Pedroia too.

    Let's also not forget the Sox have played more games than anyone else and against a pretty tough schedule.   If this road trip is 5-4 or better, the Sox will be the team to beat with a short July-September to go, under 70 games.  

     
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    Speed. The most under rated quality in baseball; as important on defense as it is on offense. Triples, stolen bases, double plays; take the Twins for example (please!) The Twins have 9 triples, the Sox have 23. The Twins have 26 stolen bases; the Sox have 66. The Twins are a slow, lousy, baseball team. The Sox have (after the 1st inning) a back to back quartet: Iglesius, Ellsbory, Victorino and Pedroia that can fly.

    Two reasons we're winning: pitching and speed.

    BINGO  !!!  And add Defense to that too.......  IGGY  !!!


     
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    Leading the league in OPS and second in Quality Starts.  That's a pretty good start.

     
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         Let's face it...on paper, the Sox aren't a very imposing team. Yet, here they are, in first place in the rugged AL East.  They have accomplished this despite having an average bullpen...and are being carried primarily by their starting pitching. Here are the team stats: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/bos/boston-red-sox

         With a traditionally tough West Coast swing ahead of them...what must the Sox management do, if anything, to see to it that the Old Towne Team continues to drive and thrive in the second half of the season? Add a bat? Pitching help? Through help on the farm in Triple A?  

         Thoughts?



    The team is better than most expected, especially if guys like Gomes keep contributing.  We have depth, chemistry and a solid manager.  What we still lack in my opinion is another solid SP to push us past the top contenders in the regular and PS.  We also won't get by with Bailey or U as our closer all season.

     
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         Let's face it...on paper, the Sox aren't a very imposing team. Yet, here they are, in first place in the rugged AL East.  They have accomplished this despite having an average bullpen...and are being carried primarily by their starting pitching. Here are the team stats: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/bos/boston-red-sox

         With a traditionally tough West Coast swing ahead of them...what must the Sox management do, if anything, to see to it that the Old Towne Team continues to drive and thrive in the second half of the season? Add a bat? Pitching help? Through help on the farm in Triple A?  

         Thoughts?

     



    The team is better than most expected, especially if guys like Gomes keep contributing.  We have depth, chemistry and a solid manager.  What we still lack in my opinion is another solid SP to push us past the top contenders in the regular and PS.  We also won't get by with Bailey or U as our closer all season.

     



    As of this morning our SP is second in the league in ERA at 3.72. The Tigers are first at 3.71. If Buchholtz can get healthy we will have all five of our SP available plus Aceves and Webster available as depth. I would imagine that Workman or Ranaudo could start a game in an emergency as well, and when Morales gets back he is another option. IMO our main weakness is in the bullpen where we rank 11th. Koji cannot close all year; he is too fragile to do that IMO. Thats where the focus should be to bolster the team's chances.

     
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         Let's face it...on paper, the Sox aren't a very imposing team. Yet, here they are, in first place in the rugged AL East.  They have accomplished this despite having an average bullpen...and are being carried primarily by their starting pitching. Here are the team stats: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/bos/boston-red-sox

         With a traditionally tough West Coast swing ahead of them...what must the Sox management do, if anything, to see to it that the Old Towne Team continues to drive and thrive in the second half of the season? Add a bat? Pitching help? Through help on the farm in Triple A?  

         Thoughts?

     

     



    The team is better than most expected, especially if guys like Gomes keep contributing.  We have depth, chemistry and a solid manager.  What we still lack in my opinion is another solid SP to push us past the top contenders in the regular and PS.  We also won't get by with Bailey or U as our closer all season.

     

     



    As of this morning our SP is second in the league in ERA at 3.72. The Tigers are first at 3.71. If Buchholtz can get healthy we will have all five of our SP available plus Aceves and Webster available as depth. I would imagine that Workman or Ranaudo could start a game in an emergency as well, and when Morales gets back he is another option. IMO our main weakness is in the bullpen where we rank 11th. Koji cannot close all year; he is too fragile to do that IMO. Thats where the focus should be to bolster the team's chances.

     

     



    I saw that stat yesterday but our SP won't be all that if we make the PS.  Jon, in my opinion could benefit by losing some weight but has pitched well in previous big games.  Lackey I'm thrilled with at this point and hope it continues.  Clays health is always unpredictable, he has spent way too much time on the DL every year so you never know where he will pick up when he returns.  Dempster and Doub "at best" are both fifth starters with very little control.  Webster? No, not yet and Aceves is always an option but very unpredictable.

     

    Garza would give us the edge over anyone in the PS.  He is a solid number 3/4 who we don't have in Dempster or Doub.  I know we won't but I would still package Doub for a two month rental of a proven "big game" guy like Garza, or try and pull off a sign and trade.  If we really feel Webster is the next real deal which I really question, then trade Doub now and upgrade to Garza before the PS.

     
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    We're supposed to win.  We have a good team.

    We're probably a little over our heads because 12-8 in one-run games and should probably be .500 in one-run games.



    Not sure they are so over their heads in this regard.  Signing guys who are prone to step up in pressure situations, guys who have done it before and know what to do (Gomes, Victorino, Drew, Napoli) make a difference in close ballgames.  Not getting jumpy, maintaining plate discipline and grinding counts is even more important in the late innings of close ballgames.

    And, more importantly, a deep bullpen.  

     

    One run games are not crap shoots that should even out over the course of time.  Some clubs are "clutch", however you can define that ephemoral quality.  But, being clutch is not total metaphysics and luck.  Cherrington constructed this club to be good in those situations.  

     
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    for one, been playing better than anyone in the division for over a month now, even with occassionally spotty pitching....

     
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