Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    Probably a combination of all of the above.
     
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    It's all on Francona.  He did everything he could to sabotage this team because he just doesn't care plus he knows nothing about how to prepare a team. 

    After five games of the ten game losing streak in ST, he should have fined about half the team.  Also, he should have played his regulars every inning of every game in spring training because everyone knows that there is a direct correlation between winning in ST and winning in the regular season. 

    Fortunately, the team had their own team meeting--without Francona present, of course--sometime around April 16, and that turned things around.  Also, Francona doesn't bunt enough.  Everyone knows that the only way to win is with small ball.  Every single GIDP by the Sox reflects his managerial incompetence. 
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    Baseball season is a marathon not a sprint. It doesn't matter how long it takes them to get there as long as they get there first.
     
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    [QUOTE]It's all on Francona.  He did everything he could to sabotage this team because he just doesn't care plus he knows nothing about how to prepare a team.  After five games of the ten game losing streak in ST, he should have fined about half the team.  Also, he should have played his regulars every inning of every game in spring training because everyone knows that there is a direct correlation between winning in ST and winning in the regular season.  Fortunately, the team had their own team meeting--without Francona present, of course--sometime around April 16, and that turned things around.  Also, Francona doesn't bunt enough.  Everyone knows that the only way to win is with small ball.  Every single GIDP by the Sox reflects his managerial incompetence. 
    Posted by maxbialystock[/QUOTE]

    yeah, plus tries to make his players as comfortable as possible.  the nerve of this guy.
     
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    [QUOTE]As we all know, the Red Sox were nothing short of horrendous over the first few weeks of the season. To what do you attribute their poor start - inadequate preparation during spring training, the pressure on new, key players or was it just coincidence?
    Posted by davetheknave[/QUOTE]

    As we also know, the Red Sox have been nothing short of stupendous over these last few weeks of the season.  To what do you attribute their great run - adequate pace in preparation, the lack of kneejerk reaction from management in spite of panicy fans, the cool of most of the new,  key players who were confidant they'd ultimately get it together or was it just coincidence? 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability? : As we also know, the Red Sox have been nothing short of stupendous over these last few weeks of the season.  To what do you attribute their great run - adequate pace in preparation, the lack of kneejerk reaction from management in spite of panicy fans, the cool of most of the new,  key players who were confidant they'd ultimately get it together or was it just coincidence? 
    Posted by Sheriff-Rojas[/QUOTE]

    Could have been all the furious indignation, blustery outrage and outright weeping of BDC board denizens that kicked them into gear.
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    It's called baseball. Even great teams slumps. This slump was at the beginning of the season and slumps have many reasons — bad luck, players putting pressure on themselves, players trying to get into a groove, etc.

    It had absolutely nothing to do with spring training. The Sox didn't do anything different this spring than they did in every other year that Francona managed and they had years where they got off to strong starts.

    Does anyone really believe that guys like Youk, Pedey, Lester, Beckett, Buch, Gonzalez, Tek lollygagged in the spring? Get real.

     
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    When you consider all the guys coming off injuries and the new players, a new pitching coach and a new catcher, it shouldn't be such a shock that it took a couple of weeks to get it going. 
     
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    [QUOTE]When you consider all the guys coming off injuries and the new players, a new pitching coach and a new catcher, it shouldn't be such a shock that it took a couple of weeks to get it going. 
    Posted by Hfxsoxnut[/QUOTE]

    Not to mention that the 0-6 was catching Cleveland and Texas, two very good clubs that were scorching out of the gate, on the road.  
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    It was not that they were not ready. They won two of their last 3 ST games and tied 1-1 in the other. The last game they won 10-0. Yes they lost the 9 previous but if you look at the scores it was not for lack of hitting. Half of them they scored more than 5 runs. Two they scored 8 and lost.
    Sometimes crap happens. The pefect mixture of poor pitching and no hitting.

    Do not be surprised if it happens again. Just remember they lost 4 in a row prior to this sprint. Sometimes pitching carries you and sometimes hitting does. RS currently have no issues since they are working on all cylinders except for RF.
    Even their catching is not hurting them. Although I believe Salty finally figured it out and we are seeing what we saw in ST.
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    IMHO, I think it was a combination of a few things, none of which had anything to do with Tito.  Starting pitching wasn't terrific, some guys got off to horrible starts, maybe the new folks took a bit to get adjusted - just a bunch of things.  Also, we started the season against the defending AL champs, and hit a hot Cleveland team at the wrong time.  Who knows really - the good thing is we've bounced back and we're playing very well.
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    Good answer  halifax
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    Baseball Happens.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability? : Could have been all the furious indignation, blustery outrage and outright weeping of BDC board denizens that kicked them into gear.
    Posted by SpacemanEephus[/QUOTE]

    In that case, andrewmitch deserves a dubious Medal of Honor. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Baseball Happens.
    Posted by SpacemanEephus[/QUOTE]

    That's exactly what I wanted to say. I rambled on and you summed it up in two words.

    It's amazing how many posters can't/don't/won't grasp that simple concept.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability? : In that case, andrewmitch deserves of a dubious Medal of Honor. 
    Posted by Sheriff-Rojas[/QUOTE]

    Maybe Sheriff.  But this was a great team effort.  I wouldn't want to dismiss the efforts of the many, many posters who spent the entire month of April throwing players under the bus, declaring the team hopeless, trashing everyone, panicking, and generally dismissing the ebb and flow of a baseball season in order to show how upset they were.  they all did a great job.  Really, without them, this team never turns it around.  We will give AndrewMitch an extra playoff share though.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability? : Maybe Sheriff.  But this was a great team effort.  I wouldn't want to dismiss the efforts of the many, many posters who spent the entire month of April throwing players under the bus, declaring the team hopeless, trashing everyone, panicking, and generally dismissing the ebb and flow of a baseball season in order to show how upset they were.  they all did a great job.  Really, without them, this team never turns it around.  We will give AndrewMitch an extra playoff share though.
    Posted by SpacemanEephus[/QUOTE]

    Fair enough, Space.  We should also give extra credit to those poachers that prodded the team with forks. 
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    Another way to look at it is, even a .700 team has to lose 30 percent of their games.  And very often those losses come in bunches.  The Sox just happened to have their losses bunched up at the beginning of the season, having run into two extremely hot teams.  Let's hope that is the only real dip in their season.  If so, they will not relinquish their lead.
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    Right now the RS are in one of those hard to explain hot streaks with results above what can be expected (9-0 and winning by football scores). They started the season in one of those cold streaks equally hard to explain (2-10 and finding new ways to lose each game).

    Somewhere in the middle is their ability.
     
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    [QUOTE]Right now the RS are in one of those hard to explain hot streaks with results above what can be expected (9-0 and winning by football scores). They started the season in one of those cold streaks equally hard to explain (2-10 and finding new ways to lose each game). Somewhere in the middle is their ability.
    Posted by fivekatz[/QUOTE]

    Toward the 9-0 side of the continuum, I would think, and not toward the center. 
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    Sox were never as bad as they seemed when they were 0-6 and 2-10.

    Sox are not as good as they have been recently: 9-0, scoring in spades.

    Baseball is a game of equalizers.  Law of averages is the norm.

    In the end, they just need to make it to the playoffs, and then get hot.

    Sox are perhaps the most talented top to bottom, with a very good 1-2-3 rotation, and the BP will undoubtedly stabilize because of the talent level.  They are a scary team, who can dominate for at least the next couple of years.
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    Part of the reason for the Sox rough start, as in going 0-6, was largely due to the opposing teams starting the season on hot streaks.

    Texas was 6-1 after they swept the Sox, and Cleveland was 8-2 after they swept the Sox.
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    Yanks lost1-0 and Tbay just lost 2-1 on a walk-off hit in the 10th w/ Victor scoring the winner.
     
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    Re: Why did it take the Sox so long to play up to their ability?

    It actually didn't take them very long at all...the 2-10 start only made it seem that way. After that they went 9-5 (.643) the rest of the way in April, then 19-10 (.655) in May. This isn't something that just suddenly happened...the Sox have been playing like a great team for quite a while now (although their play the past couple weeks has simply been out of this world).
     
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