Re: Why does every conversation about David Ortiz have to be so venomous (on both sides)?
posted at 1/28/2014 8:47 AM EST
In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to RedSoxDOrtiz's comment:
Yes, one day Papi will decline beyond his value, probably sooner than some of us want it to be.
I think another elephant in the room is that everyone knows that Ortiz's time is coming to an end soon... I for one will be very sad to see Ortiz retire or have to move on... it will break my heart as a fan. I think when people make a connection to a sports figure and they know the time is limited, reactions can sour.
I can understand not wanting to pay a guy for an extra year or two beyond that point, but if anyone ever deserved pay for past legendary performance, it would be Papi. I'm not making a case for that as the reason for extending Papi. I know we have him over a barrell with this whole qualifying offer system, and the fact that his "open market" value would be severely lessened for another team not wanting to lose a draft pick to sign a guy for 1 or 2 years tops, but is that what Sox management really wants to do to a legend? The legend?
The Sox do have a history of letting legends walk to free agency, such as Pedro Martinez, but Pedro made out fine the way that system was back then. The Sox also have a history of paying legends into old age, and even beyond out of respect for heroic acts on the field when it counts.
They paid Schilling big money until 2007, despite the fact that he turned 41 that Novemeber, then out of gratitude gave him a "golden parachute" $8M for 2008, even though he never pitched an inning. I don't recall any posters complaining about paying the "great white hope" for past heroics. The bloody sock was worth it all, right? I'm saddened to admit that I am not shocked that so many clowns here, who said nothing about Schillings' deal, are making such a big deal about Papi answering a question by an interviewer, and saying he'd like to stay with the Sox longer and get an extension.
The hatred and vitriol has come to be the norm. Sad but true.
...When all it sees at the hiring time is the line on the color bar
That's just the way it is
Some things will never change
That's just the way it is...
Other than Stiffy playing the reverse-racism charge against ALL Boston fans, in a naked attempt to turn the tables on folks calling his rants racist, the "RACISM" charge is patently absurd, moreover it's really getting old.
I highly doubt that more than .1 % of Boston fans take potchots at Papi due to racism. It's akin to every substantive schots at Obama being chalked up to racism. It's beyond old!
If some on this board want to jump on Stiffy's "racism" claims, it's time to check yourself. The self-flagelation is tired.
Papi is the MOST BELOVED sports figure in Boston RIGHT NOW!
Schill is one of the most reviled! How did all that "white hope" love dissipate so quickly?
Some of you want to jump into Stiffy's trap on this subject? Good on ya! Brilliant! Play into the old stereotypes of Boston, as the Stiffler is want for you to do?? Have at it. Again... Brilliant. You're making his day. "Oh... It's not me who I'm calling racist, it's those other Bostonians... You know...." Really? Get over it!
Papi is so far beyond beloved! It's time to stop focusing on a relative FEW nitwits who truly are racist, as though Boston is unique in having a few racists in their midst? Time to take a drive around this country...... Boston is FAR FROM unique in this regard. In fact, I'd put money on the FACT that Boston is far more "progressive" in their views about differing races co-existing in harmony. Again....... Get over yourselves on this point. You want to self-flagelate? Go for it. Just leave the rest of us out of your fantasy world.
I'm as liberal as they come on matters of race & social politics, but I'm sick and tire of the nonsense on this issue! You want to beat up on Boston on this issue? Go do it someplace else!