In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to pumpsie-green's comment:
The vitriol against Papi that has been going on for years on this site is just plain sick. I'm not backing down from my position that some of it has been racially motivated. I would not fault any black player for never wanting to play for fans like some of the ones here. It is what it is. Denying it just adds to the problem.
Stop with "you're playing the race card" mantra. It's plain denial.
Sorry Moon. I think you are off base here. You don't have to back down from your opinion that some of the vitriol against Ortiz is race based, but I think the same vitriol would be present had a white player been so public with his whining about respect and salary. I have not seen a single post here about Ortiz that I could label as racist. Its ALL about his behavior, NOT about the color of his skin.
It's not about just being upset with Papi's behavior. It has gone way beyond that for some here. Look at the amount of threads, the length of the threads, and some of the vile talk about Papi on these threads.
It's hard for me to think some of it is not racially based. When a few of the posters here, who have a long history of making racial or bigoted tsatements flock to every thread about Papi quicker than lightening, the flag is raised. Then, when the classic statement, "don't play the race card" follows, I'm of the opinion that some here are in serious denial, unconcious or otherwise.
Ok, I'll buy that since I'd would never say that race is not the agenda of some who post here. I don't have that knowledge so I won't dispute what you say. However, I believe the clear majority of us, even those who have been critical of Papi for his behavior, DON'T have race as a motivating factor in our posts.
I would only point out that it offends some of us to be painted with that same broad brush - which is what happened at the beginning of this thread.