Why Farrell ?

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    I had the same though regarding Farrell.  I'm not quite convinced that he is the best choice for the job.

     

    This article illustrated why I'm not ready to get behind the popular thought that Farrell should be the next manager.  To me...his outlook is a little too much like Francona's.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/23125/more-brushfires-for-john-farrell

     
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    In response to rightymclefty's comment:
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    Exactly WHAT has John Farrell done in Toronto, to make anyone think he's the answer in Boston?

    Even worse, is the suggestion of Jason Varitek, who is still close to some Sox players.

    They need to get out of the old boy network mode, because they see it as safe, and think of a Ryne Sandberg type. Young, but with minior league managerial experience.

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    Gabe Kapler?

     
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    In response to LloydDobler's comment:
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    Antibody, this new "quote" thing on the forum really stinks.  I thought I was replaying to georom, but it turns out I was replying to two quotes at once. The "Bobby V bootlicker" comment was directed at him. The Farrell comment was directed to you.

    Sorry for the confusion.

     

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    i was agreeing with ya dummy! What the heck has Farral done to warrant hiring him? let alone giving the Jays compensation...

     
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    Don't understand some people's fascination with Farrell. When he was the Sox pitching coach there were many on this board who couldn't get him out of town fast enough. Now he's being looked at as some kind of savior.

    The team needs a fresh start. Hire someone new to the organization. Let him choose his own coaches and please, PLEASE, keep Lucchono the hell away from him and anything to do with daily baseball operations. Unless those things happen, there's no re-building, only whitewashing.

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    the tito bootlickers never stop...maybe we can also find that time machine to 2007 too this off season

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    I suppose Valentine's miserable season has harkened calls to those "golden days" of Fetch FrancoMa, some people conveniently forgetting just how miserable a field manager he was his last three or four seasons.  Farrell would be another disaster.  He is a loser--our pitching started cratering his last two years with us and he was a loser in Toronto.  For God's sake, can't Prune Face understand that we need to clean house and get a fresh start?  Most likely no.  Henry has spread himself so thin between NASCAR, his soccer team in England (a loser by the way), and his pastry tart wife, that he has had little interest in the Red Sox the last few years and has allowed the team to fall apart due to miserable leadership throughout the front office.

     

     
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    i cant believe people are serious about wanting farrell and even giving the jays compensation for him...heck we couldve also had that Cub manager who lost over a 100 games!  lets go back and get him!!!!

     

    beyond dumb...

     
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    In response to Drewski5's comment:

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    Gabe Kapler?

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    +1

     
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    Arnie Beyeler

     
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    In response to georom4's comment:
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    Antibody, this new "quote" thing on the forum really stinks.  I thought I was replaying to georom, but it turns out I was replying to two quotes at once. The "Bobby V bootlicker" comment was directed at him. The Farrell comment was directed to you.

    Sorry for the confusion.

     

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    i was agreeing with ya dummy! What the heck has Farral done to warrant hiring him? let alone giving the Jays compensation...

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    It didn't have the feeling of an agreement you meathead. :) I thought you were calling me a bootlicker. Sorry I misunderstood. Spot on about the dummy, though. Never claimed to be the brightest bulb in the room.

     
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    This Farrell obsession seems kind of creepy to me.  The Red Sox are acting like some guy who just cannot handle that his ex met someone else and is happy now.

     

    Move on! The only reason Farrell did not manage a last place team is Bobby Valentine...

     
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    It looks like the Blue Jays aren't going to ask for anything for Ferrell. Ferrell was brought in the orgnization to replace Fracona but got tired of waiting. Buchholz and Lester (and Lackey) were light years ahead of where they are now.

     
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    Exactly WHAT has John Farrell done in Toronto, to make anyone think he's the answer in Boston?

    Even worse, is the suggestion of Jason Varitek, who is still close to some Sox players.

    They need to get out of the old boy network mode, because they see it as safe, and think of a Ryne Sandberg type. Young, but with minior league managerial experience.

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    Not a bad suggestion at all...not too old, yet not too young..connected to the past, yet far enough from the present.

    Gabe Kapler?

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    In response to Drewski5's comment:
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    Exactly WHAT has John Farrell done in Toronto, to make anyone think he's the answer in Boston?

    Even worse, is the suggestion of Jason Varitek, who is still close to some Sox players.

    They need to get out of the old boy network mode, because they see it as safe, and think of a Ryne Sandberg type. Young, but with minior league managerial experience.

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    Not a bad suggestion at all...not too old, yet not too young..connected to the past, yet far enough from the present.

    Gabe Kapler?

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    In response to notin's comment:
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    This Farrell obsession seems kind of creepy to me.  The Red Sox are acting like some guy who just cannot handle that his ex met someone else and is happy now.

     

    Move on! The only reason Farrell did not manage a last place team is Bobby Valentine...

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    True. I have yet to hear anyone in the FO say Farrell is their priority. Only the media tell us this. Then the fans that cannot think on their own assume Farrell must be the best option out their, not that he is a legitimate option so long as the Jays are paying him.

     

     
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    I hate to sound pessimistic, but I really dislike the changes in the forum.  The typical work of the computer geeks.   'If it's working good, let's make it difficult or unworkable so we can fix it'...just for the sake of justifying their existence.

     
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    Also true

     
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    Other names that have been thrown around here, besides Farrell, from the media or just ideas from fans...

    Arnie Beyler

    Brad Ausmus

    Tim Wallach

    Tim Bogar

    Gabe Kapler

    Bill Mueller

    Ryne Sandberg

    John Vaentin (ike's pick)

    Tony Pena (have to wait to talk to him though)

    DeMarlo Hale

    Brad Mills

    Oh, and the ever too often...Jason Varitek

     

    Thats quite the list of potential, or not so potential, candidates...

     

     
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    Sandberg was rumored to go to Philly. Bogar needs to go, he is obviously not part of the solution, Bill Mueller? That sounds interesting but I know nothing about him as a would-be manager. Tony Pena quit on the Royals - imagine how he would handle losing in Boston! I do know Hale was highly regarded once upon a time here.... maybe a good choice there.

     
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    Sandberg was rumored to go to Philly. Bogar needs to go, he is obviously not part of the solution, Bill Mueller? That sounds interesting but I know nothing about him as a would-be manager. Tony Pena quit on the Royals - imagine how he would handle losing in Boston! I do know Hale was highly regarded once upon a time here.... maybe a good choice there.

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    Im with you on Bogar...Needs to go somewhere else.
    DeMarlo Hale would be a nice fit, IMO. Mueller has no coaching exp. at all. Hes the special assistant to the GM in LA. The role Varitek has taken in Boston, so probably not the best choice.

    Im surprised more managers besides Pena havent quit on the Royals...

     
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    “If you make mistakes and nobody says anything about it — they just let it go — we’re going to keep making the same mistakes over and over again,”  (Omar) Vizquel said last week. “We have to stand up and say something right after that mistake happened. We have to talk about it at meetings. We have to address it in a big way in the clubhouse.

     

    Enough said right there, Farrell went to Tito's managerial school.

     
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    I like the idea of Farrell being the next Red Sox manager.  

    Look at Francona's track record as Phillies's manager being coming to Boston.  

    He turned out fine (until September of 2011).  

     

     

     
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    [QUOTE] He inherited the 2004 championship and almost blew it. The team, loaded with talent got to 1 WS during the last 7 years of his tenure and failed to qualify for the playoffs the last 2 years. During those 7 years the team underperformed under his leadership(?). Imagine if you will that Roberts was out on the steal attempt. Then imagine the following 7 years. Francona was not a good manager.

    How about Mike Lowell as manager and Dennis Eckersley as pitching coach?

     

    I like the idea of Farrell being the next Red Sox manager.  

    Look at Francona's track record as Phillies's manager being coming to Boston.  

    He turned out fine (until September of 2011).  

     

     

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    I for one would not go after Farrell. He allowed players to jog to first on infield grounders and there was no policing of what Yunel Escobar did with his eye black.

     
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    Here is an off the wall idea...Orel Herschiser (sp).  Certainly out of the main stream.  Not even sure that he is any kind of candidate for any job but heard him talk the other day and he certainly has baseball knowledge and a pitching background that is proven.  I know there will be bashers but I am trying to think outside the box a little.  Certainly don't want a retread, been there done that.  Names like Torre, Farrell sound to me like much of the same. 

     
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    I for one would not go after Farrell. He allowed players to jog to first on infield grounders and there was no policing of what Yunel Escobar did with his eye black.

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    Ding ding ding...this is exactly why I'm not sold on Farrell.  I posted the ESPN article about players doing things the wrong way, acting the wrong way, etc...and Farrell and his coaches didn't step in until LONG after it became detrimental to the team.

     

    I really don't want another player's pushover manager...like what Franconca became in his last year or two.  They walked all over him and didn't correct what needed to be corrected.  I want a guy who's going to coach these guys each and every day to play the game the right way...jumping on any potential shortcomings ahead of time before it really becomes a larger issue.

     

    I'd be interested in what Kapler might be able to bring...he was a grinder and had the respect of much more decorated players even though he was "only" a role player.  I think he'd be a good candidate to look into.  And he had the guns if anyone got out of line... :)

     

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