Re: Why has nothing been done about the SP?
posted at 12/11/2012 9:31 PM EST
In response to Wolfpack13's comment:
Parhunter I'm not saying you're an idiot, but "Sox have only signed second tier players for the last 10 years" is the dumbest thing I've read since Aliibike's posts. I hate to break this to you but Adrian Gonzalez, Curt Schilling, Johnny Damon, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford and John Lackey were "top talent." Some of them didn't certainly didn't play like it once they got here, but at the time they were studs. Sox fans whine we don't spend the money then whine we overpay. We don't make trades to get talent then whine we give away our prospects. Which is it?
Also, please stop comparing the Sox to the Rays. First of all please remind yourself that the Rays have zero world series to their credit. Zero. Second they finished in last place 9 of their first 10 years. I guarantee you this-- let the Sox finish dead last for 10 years, pile up draft picks and then see how they finish for the next decade after that. Dumbass Sox fans go berserk when they finish last one year nevermind nine.
Finally I'd like to repeat myself that less than 5% of those who post on this board really know much about the game. One of the reasons I know this is because you are posting on this board rather than coaching a team or looking for a scouting position. I believe in freedom of speech, but someone like Alibike has no knowledge of the game. Do not think simply because you "watch every game" means you have knowledge of baseball. The funniest part is the dumber the post, the more confident the person is of his thoughts.
Wonderful. You didn't call me an idiot. Just stupid and then dumb, and then...implied I know nothing about baseball because I am not applying for scouting jobs for a MLB team (how do you know?). And then you offer up Schilling and Beckett and Gonzalez to make the point that the Sox sign top FA talent. Well, I shall move over, I have room on the idiot bus. Schilling, Beckett and Gonzalez were all brought to the Sox via trade.
And no, Damon and Crawford were NOT and still are NOT top tier talent. Neither will make the HOF. Crawford is good. He is NOT Josh Hamilton. And he should never have been paid like the best OFer in baseball. How do I know? Justin Upton is being paid for 2 years less and for 6 million less per year and is very comparable talent wise. Crawford is definitely an overpay--way too much money for the level of talent he brings to the table. He is not, never has been and never will be a five tool player.
Damon was a great signing. And he became an even better player after he was signed away from Oakland at a very reasonable price for his talent. But here is your problem, Mr. I am so much smarter than all of you here...Damon was signed over 10 years ago. A decade is 10 years. And guess what? He signed one year BEFORE Theo Epstein became the Sox GM. So guess who signed Damon--the GM of the Orioles! The same guy who was the last Sox GM to go after the absolute best hitter available with the absolute top dollar offer...an absolutely bold move that is still far and away the best FA signing ever made by the Sox (and I am not one of the big Manny supporters here).
Lastly, I compared the Sox to the Rays on a thread about the Rays. On this thread I talked about the need to get the best SP Ben can get. Why? Because it is a thread about the Starting Pitching. And, I managed to state my opinions without attacking any other poster or hurling insults and making stupid assumptions about the knowledge, intelligence or intent of any other posters, even those who disagree with me. You, on the other hand, can seemingly only state your cleverness by insulting others. What does that say about your real knowledge of baseball, or the size of your whatever you seem to think needs to be disguised under ill-informed and thoughtless bluster?
I am not calling you an idiot, but you are one of the most bombastic, full of yourself jazzholes I have ever had to call out on this forum for completely erroneous statements.