Re: Why you trade for Cliff Lee
posted at 5/29/2013 1:07 PM EDT
In response to pumpsie-green's comment:
In response to craze4sox's comment:
In response to maxbialystock's comment:
Papelbon and Lee both looked terrific last night and no doubt worth every penny of their enormous salaries. That is, worth it, one would hope, to the Philadelphia Phillies.
But which team is leading the AL East by a game and which team has a losing record and is mired somewhere in the middle of the NL East?
To be honest, I give Papelbon a ton of credit for thriving in Philly. His fast ball looks great, so does his spitter, and his control is excellent. But he's getting an enormous amount of money just to pitch one inning maybe 50 or 60 times a year. Plus I had the distinct impression in 2011 that AL hitters were homing in on that fast ball. Paying Papelbon's enormous salary last year wasn't going to make much difference because Cherington needed to clean house. Better to have invested that money and some more into a good front line starter, but apparently none was available for less than, say, a cool $25M per season.
If you think it's hard going after front line starters, take a gander at those big money hitters like Pujols, AGon, ARod, et al. None has proved to be transformation for his team. Right now it looks like the only team who truly pulled a major heist was the Red Sox when the acquired first Manny Ramirez and then David Ortiz, two guys who were central to the 2004 and 2007 WS wins. Of course that meant Francona would also have to put up with Manny being Manny for several years.
Back to the topic at hand. Cliff Lee is paid way too much money to be a good investment, especially when he turns 35 this summer. I think the money should go toward a good righty bat or maybe just stand pat for now.
The Sox have plenty of room for improvement despite their record so far. Trading for Lee would hardly kill our payroll the way some think if the Phils picked up a lot of his salary. We have plenty of guys who could and will be expendable.
Guys like ... Ells, Drew, Aceves, Nap & Salty are making 30mil plus. All but maybe? Nap could be expendable in 2014.
Gomes is at 5mil, if he continues to struggle and we could move him? I would give Brentz a shot.
Hanrahan, Lackey & Dempster are picking up another 20mil. Harder to move but maybe not impossible if one of our young arms mature sooner than expected and Tazawa could take Hans place.
Standing pat because we are in first place shouldn't have us overlooking ways to improve even further. Also, losing Webster, Middy and possibly even Salty in a Lee trade probably won't kill our farm, or hurt the tream that much with kids like Barnes, De La Rosa, Workman, Cecchini, Bogy, Lav, Vasquez, Swihart and others in the wings.
IMO it would be real dumb to trade Webster away for a 35 year old pitcher with a bloated salary that is on the books for three more years after this one.
Its also dumb to think Lackey, Dempster and Doub will hold up the tail end of our rotation all season. Webster isn't any closer than our other top young arms of getting to the majors.
Having a good ST against make ship lineups doesn't mean a kid is ready for for the Bigs.