will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

    In response to slasher9's comment:
     

    take the over on MFY fans jumping off the brooklyn bridge this season...

     

    [/QUOTE] with the over likely being zero...pretty good odds :-)


     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

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    I think it is hypocritical for any Yankee fan to say the Sox should have spent an extra 30 million to sign Ellsbury when the Yanks wouldn't extend Cano a contract he would find acceptable..

    Y is it not more hypocritical 2 say the yanks should of raised their

    offer 90 mill to a total of 265 mill

    than 2 say the sox should of raised theirs 30 ? a total of 153 that's 110 mill less

    especially knowing darn well if the NYY did

    the RSP's would be all over the place

    sorry that's even more hypocritical

     

    .instead the Yankees left the door open for Seattle to make him an offer he couldn't refuse by placing their focus on McCann, Ellsbury and Beltran.

     

    there's a whole lot wrong there soxdog

    actually the yanks broke their rule

    about trying to get a contract redone B4 it expired early durring the season

    that's when cano's people said 10 yr 300 mill

    after the season ended and the yanks were told their lastest offer of 175 wasn't close

     the yanks gave up and signed ells

    mcman has nothing to do with anything

    and beltran was signed right after cano signed

     

     

     

    Furthermore, I believe, and hope, that the Red Sox have ended paying out those long-term free agent deals because they learned that having "fatcats" is, more often than not, not the recipe for success anymore.

    The 2014 Yankees will try to prove me wrong, but I thank our lucky stars everyday that we were able to unload fatcats Gonzalez, Crawford and Beckett and retool with more hungry players like Victorino, Napoli and Gomes.

     

    that we agree on, a poster called

    4B's won't admit/agree the sox were lucky there

     

    If the Sox fail to repeat in 2014 Sox fans will be disappointed, however, if the Yankees don't win in 2014 Yankee fans will be devastated! But they'll have the pleasure of adding ARod's salary back in the mix in 2015.

     

    why would we be devastated

    unless the sox repeated i don't C it as a big deal

    as long as they make the PO

     

     

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    zac, all good points except the last one...what if after spending half a billion dollars on player acquiistions for the 2014 season the Yankees implode and finish with a similar record to 2013??

    My guess is that although zac may not be devastated, a slew of other Yankee fans would be!!

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

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    Not in the WS, they did in however beat the 2004 Yankees, who out spent the Sox by 57M that year or more than 14 clubs spent on thier total payroll in 2004...

    In our 3 WS years, the NYY outspent us by $196M.

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    In your 3 WS years the Sox outspent their opponents by roughly $180M

    [/QUOTE] Yanks/Sox payroll.... the one subject harder to kill than Jason and Freddy combined Tongue Out


     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

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    Not in the WS, they did in however beat the 2004 Yankees, who out spent the Sox by 57M that year or more than 14 clubs spent on thier total payroll in 2004...

    In our 3 WS years, the NYY outspent us by $196M.

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    In your 3 WS years the Sox outspent their opponents by roughly $180M

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    When you're in the same division as the biggest spenders in the AL, you either have to spend a little yourself, or do an excellent job in the draft, like the Rays.

    I know that Yankee fans would rather have the Sox make more stupid signings, like the Yankees do.

    Lucky for us, the Sox FO keep those moves to a minimum.

     

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

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    Not in the WS, they did in however beat the 2004 Yankees, who out spent the Sox by 57M that year or more than 14 clubs spent on thier total payroll in 2004...

    In our 3 WS years, the NYY outspent us by $196M.

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    In your 3 WS years the Sox outspent their opponents by roughly $180M

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    JIM, the Sox are required to act like a big market team because of their rivals from the south.  This is proven by the O's not spending and not being able to get to the playoffs...the Rays are also in this plight, but they had very high draft choices during the miserable years that have matured to the MLB level allowing them to be competitive without the payroll.

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

    In response to JIMMYPROFFER's comment:
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    In response to Soxdog67's comment:
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    In response to JIMMYPROFFER's comment:
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    In response to Joebreidey's comment:
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    Not in the WS, they did in however beat the 2004 Yankees, who out spent the Sox by 57M that year or more than 14 clubs spent on thier total payroll in 2004...

    In our 3 WS years, the NYY outspent us by $196M.

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    In your 3 WS years the Sox outspent their opponents by roughly $180M

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    JIM, the Sox are required to act like a big market team because of their rivals from the south.  This is proven by the O's not spending and not being able to get to the playoffs...the Rays are also in this plight, but they had very high draft choices during the miserable years that have matured to the MLB level allowing them to be competitive without the payroll.

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    Sounds like Owebummer blaming everything on Bush

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    We're blaming three WS wins on someone?

    That's a new a one...

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

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    In response to slasher9's comment:
     

    take the over on MFY fans jumping off the brooklyn bridge this season...

     

    [/QUOTE] with the over likely being zero...pretty good odds :-)


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    babe Jimmy may be the first to go....

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

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    Comparing the 2013 Yankees with a 100% healthy 2014 Yankees is not practical, but it is a starting point to guage potential. Then one can scale back expectations based on various levels of projected health issues.

        

    C: 

    2013: .587 (335 PAs Stewart .565/145 Romine .564/61 Cervelli .877/25 Murphy)

    2014:  ~.800+     McCann/Cervelli

    +100 easily

     

    1B:

    2013: .690 (454 Overbay .692/ 83 M Reynolds .878/ 58 Tex .609)

    2014: ~.790+     Teixeira/ K Johnson

    + 100

     

    2B:

    2013: .905 (656 Camo/ 27 Adams .630)

    2014:  ~.650     B Ryan/B Roberts/ E Nunez

    - 150

     

    SS:

    2013: .598 (273 Nunez .658/ 176 Nix .620/ 62 Ryan /55 Jete /44 Brignac)

    2014:  .750+    Jeter/B Ryan (all year)/ E Nunez

    +150

     

    3B:

    2013: .633 (123 Nix/ 115 ARod/ 112 Adams/88 Youk/56 Nunez/42 Cruz)

    2014: .730+    K Johnson/B Ryan

    +100

     

    LF:

    2013: .692  (290 Wells .598/ 206 Soriano .978/95 Almonte .624/46 Grandy)

    2014:  .790+    Garner/Soriano

    +100

     

    CF:

    2013: .791 (596 Gardner .772/93 Grandy .814/38 Suzuki)

    2014: .790+    Ellsbury/Garner/Suzuki

    Even

     

    RF:

    2013: .655 (465 Suzuki/ 67 Wells/ 43 Boesch/39 Grandy)

    2014:  .850+    Beltran/Suzuki

    +200

    DH:

    2013: .583 (289 Hafner/ 78 Wells/65 ARod/63 Grandy/36 Soriano)

    2014:  .830+  Sorinao/Beltran/Jeter/McCann

    +250

     

    Come on Sox fans- not seeing the enormous potential for massive gains on offense is wishful thinking or complete blindness. There's a chance for close to a 100 point gain per position on average.

     

     

    SP

    2013:

    GS  IP

    32 211 Sabathia  14-13  4.78

    32 201 Kuroda    11-13  3.31

    30 185 Pettitte   11-11  3.74

    29 145 Hughes   4-14   4.95

    20 128 I Nova    8-6   3.17

    12   66  Phelps   5-4  4.93

    3    17  Nuno  1-1  2.12

    2      8  Huff   0-1  10.80

    2      8  Warren 1-0  2,,25

     

    2014:

    32  210 Sabathia

    32  200 Kuroda

    30  190 Tanaka

    29  180 Nova

    29  170 Phelps

    10  50  Pineda, Warren, & Nuno

    Tanaka over Pettitte is hard to call, but more starts by Nova and Phelps should be better than what Hughes and others gave in 2013.

     

    RP

    2013:

    IP  WHIP

    69 1.46 Warren

    66 1.04 Robertson

    64 1.05 Rivera

    53 1.31 Kelley

    50 1.29 Claiborne

    42 1.74 Chamberlain

    39 1.18 Logan

    26 0.87 Huff

    21 1.43 Phelps

    12 1.67 Marshall

    2014: Robertson, Kelley, Claiborne, Cabral, Betances, Banuelos, Campos

    Losing Mo hurts badly- no doubt, but losing Joba is an addition by subtraction. I also do not think the yanks are done stocking their pen before ST.

     

    To me, the Yankee offense will be much much better, even if some of the older players get hurt a little more than the norm (but not as much as 2013).

    The rotation should be better and the pen probably worse.

    This team should win 90-95 games with moderate injuries.

    -681 PAs by Cano .899

    -486 PAs Overbay .639

    -458 PAs V Wells .631

    -340 PAs Stewart .566

    -299 PAs Hafner .679

    -245 PAs Grandy .723

    -181 PAs ARod  .771

    -152 PAs Adams .537

    -120 PAs Reynolds .755

    -118 PAs Youkilis .648

    Less PAs by...

    555 Suzuki .639

    336 Nunez .679

    303 Nix .619

    148 Romine .551

    More PAs by

    Teixeira .608

    Jeter  .542

    Soriano .850

    Cervelli .877

    B Ryan .563

     

    Added PAs:

    700+ Ellsbury

    650+ Beltran

    550+ McCann

    500+ K Johnson

    200+ B Roberts

     

    Pitching:

    -185 IP Pettitte

    -146 Hughes

    -64 Rivera

    -42 Joba

    -39 Logan

    More IP by...

    Nova & Phelps

    Additions:

    Tanaka, Pineda, Banuelos & Campos

     

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     Why am I not surprised that that this thoughtful and thorough analysis by Moon is treated like it was radioactive (no comments), and the conversation immediately shifts to the off thread, dead horse dialogue of the "Yankees spend too much"; "Well, so do the Sox"; No, the Yanks spend more!" ad nauseam. Nice work, Moon.  

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

    i am not going to validate 2014 projected stats on 40 year old players that played 4 and a half games last year.

    to project that these players will revert back to age 25 or 30 form is ludicrous.  age killed the ss and closer and a couple of SP's, testing killed the 1b, FO arrogance killed the 2b, investigation killed the 3b.  in my opinion this adds up to "no comment" to moon's thorough listing of numbers and my assertion that this feels like a .500 team waiting to happen.

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

    In response to mfymfy's comment:
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    Comparing the 2013 Yankees with a 100% healthy 2014 Yankees is not practical, but it is a starting point to guage potential. Then one can scale back expectations based on various levels of projected health issues.

        

    C: 

    2013: .587 (335 PAs Stewart .565/145 Romine .564/61 Cervelli .877/25 Murphy)

    2014:  ~.800+     McCann/Cervelli

    +100 easily

     

    1B:

    2013: .690 (454 Overbay .692/ 83 M Reynolds .878/ 58 Tex .609)

    2014: ~.790+     Teixeira/ K Johnson

    + 100

     

    2B:

    2013: .905 (656 Camo/ 27 Adams .630)

    2014:  ~.650     B Ryan/B Roberts/ E Nunez

    - 150

     

    SS:

    2013: .598 (273 Nunez .658/ 176 Nix .620/ 62 Ryan /55 Jete /44 Brignac)

    2014:  .750+    Jeter/B Ryan (all year)/ E Nunez

    +150

     

    3B:

    2013: .633 (123 Nix/ 115 ARod/ 112 Adams/88 Youk/56 Nunez/42 Cruz)

    2014: .730+    K Johnson/B Ryan

    +100

     

    LF:

    2013: .692  (290 Wells .598/ 206 Soriano .978/95 Almonte .624/46 Grandy)

    2014:  .790+    Garner/Soriano

    +100

     

    CF:

    2013: .791 (596 Gardner .772/93 Grandy .814/38 Suzuki)

    2014: .790+    Ellsbury/Garner/Suzuki

    Even

     

    RF:

    2013: .655 (465 Suzuki/ 67 Wells/ 43 Boesch/39 Grandy)

    2014:  .850+    Beltran/Suzuki

    +200

    DH:

    2013: .583 (289 Hafner/ 78 Wells/65 ARod/63 Grandy/36 Soriano)

    2014:  .830+  Sorinao/Beltran/Jeter/McCann

    +250

     

    Come on Sox fans- not seeing the enormous potential for massive gains on offense is wishful thinking or complete blindness. There's a chance for close to a 100 point gain per position on average.

     

     

    SP

    2013:

    GS  IP

    32 211 Sabathia  14-13  4.78

    32 201 Kuroda    11-13  3.31

    30 185 Pettitte   11-11  3.74

    29 145 Hughes   4-14   4.95

    20 128 I Nova    8-6   3.17

    12   66  Phelps   5-4  4.93

    3    17  Nuno  1-1  2.12

    2      8  Huff   0-1  10.80

    2      8  Warren 1-0  2,,25

     

    2014:

    32  210 Sabathia

    32  200 Kuroda

    30  190 Tanaka

    29  180 Nova

    29  170 Phelps

    10  50  Pineda, Warren, & Nuno

    Tanaka over Pettitte is hard to call, but more starts by Nova and Phelps should be better than what Hughes and others gave in 2013.

     

    RP

    2013:

    IP  WHIP

    69 1.46 Warren

    66 1.04 Robertson

    64 1.05 Rivera

    53 1.31 Kelley

    50 1.29 Claiborne

    42 1.74 Chamberlain

    39 1.18 Logan

    26 0.87 Huff

    21 1.43 Phelps

    12 1.67 Marshall

    2014: Robertson, Kelley, Claiborne, Cabral, Betances, Banuelos, Campos

    Losing Mo hurts badly- no doubt, but losing Joba is an addition by subtraction. I also do not think the yanks are done stocking their pen before ST.

     

    To me, the Yankee offense will be much much better, even if some of the older players get hurt a little more than the norm (but not as much as 2013).

    The rotation should be better and the pen probably worse.

    This team should win 90-95 games with moderate injuries.

    -681 PAs by Cano .899

    -486 PAs Overbay .639

    -458 PAs V Wells .631

    -340 PAs Stewart .566

    -299 PAs Hafner .679

    -245 PAs Grandy .723

    -181 PAs ARod  .771

    -152 PAs Adams .537

    -120 PAs Reynolds .755

    -118 PAs Youkilis .648

    Less PAs by...

    555 Suzuki .639

    336 Nunez .679

    303 Nix .619

    148 Romine .551

    More PAs by

    Teixeira .608

    Jeter  .542

    Soriano .850

    Cervelli .877

    B Ryan .563

     

    Added PAs:

    700+ Ellsbury

    650+ Beltran

    550+ McCann

    500+ K Johnson

    200+ B Roberts

     

    Pitching:

    -185 IP Pettitte

    -146 Hughes

    -64 Rivera

    -42 Joba

    -39 Logan

    More IP by...

    Nova & Phelps

    Additions:

    Tanaka, Pineda, Banuelos & Campos

     

    [/QUOTE]
     Why am I not surprised that that this thoughtful and thorough analysis by Moon is treated like it was radioactive (no comments), and the conversation immediately shifts to the off thread, dead horse dialogue of the "Yankees spend too much"; "Well, so do the Sox"; No, the Yanks spend more!" ad nauseam. Nice work, Moon.  

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    "Comparing the 2013 Yankees with a 100% healthy 2014 Yankees is not practical,"


    That's all I needed to read.

    Moon can post all the "thoughtful" lists he wants.

    The fact is nobody knows how good the Yankees are until they play.

    I dont blame Yankee fans for being optimistic.

    I was optimistic at the start of 2012, after the Sox threw away their season in Sept of '11

    But, why should Yankee fans expect the same from Sox fans here?

    You need your azzes kissed that badly?

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

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    babe Jimmy may be the first to go....

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    Doubtful, skippy.

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    yes.  namecalling.  what did tanaka misplace his visa already???

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

    In response to mfymfy's comment:
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    Comparing the 2013 Yankees with a 100% healthy 2014 Yankees is not practical, but it is a starting point to guage potential. Then one can scale back expectations based on various levels of projected health issues.

        

    C: 

    2013: .587 (335 PAs Stewart .565/145 Romine .564/61 Cervelli .877/25 Murphy)

    2014:  ~.800+     McCann/Cervelli

    +100 easily

     

    1B:

    2013: .690 (454 Overbay .692/ 83 M Reynolds .878/ 58 Tex .609)

    2014: ~.790+     Teixeira/ K Johnson

    + 100

     

    2B:

    2013: .905 (656 Camo/ 27 Adams .630)

    2014:  ~.650     B Ryan/B Roberts/ E Nunez

    - 150

     

    SS:

    2013: .598 (273 Nunez .658/ 176 Nix .620/ 62 Ryan /55 Jete /44 Brignac)

    2014:  .750+    Jeter/B Ryan (all year)/ E Nunez

    +150

     

    3B:

    2013: .633 (123 Nix/ 115 ARod/ 112 Adams/88 Youk/56 Nunez/42 Cruz)

    2014: .730+    K Johnson/B Ryan

    +100

     

    LF:

    2013: .692  (290 Wells .598/ 206 Soriano .978/95 Almonte .624/46 Grandy)

    2014:  .790+    Garner/Soriano

    +100

     

    CF:

    2013: .791 (596 Gardner .772/93 Grandy .814/38 Suzuki)

    2014: .790+    Ellsbury/Garner/Suzuki

    Even

     

    RF:

    2013: .655 (465 Suzuki/ 67 Wells/ 43 Boesch/39 Grandy)

    2014:  .850+    Beltran/Suzuki

    +200

    DH:

    2013: .583 (289 Hafner/ 78 Wells/65 ARod/63 Grandy/36 Soriano)

    2014:  .830+  Sorinao/Beltran/Jeter/McCann

    +250

     

    Come on Sox fans- not seeing the enormous potential for massive gains on offense is wishful thinking or complete blindness. There's a chance for close to a 100 point gain per position on average.

     

     

    SP

    2013:

    GS  IP

    32 211 Sabathia  14-13  4.78

    32 201 Kuroda    11-13  3.31

    30 185 Pettitte   11-11  3.74

    29 145 Hughes   4-14   4.95

    20 128 I Nova    8-6   3.17

    12   66  Phelps   5-4  4.93

    3    17  Nuno  1-1  2.12

    2      8  Huff   0-1  10.80

    2      8  Warren 1-0  2,,25

     

    2014:

    32  210 Sabathia

    32  200 Kuroda

    30  190 Tanaka

    29  180 Nova

    29  170 Phelps

    10  50  Pineda, Warren, & Nuno

    Tanaka over Pettitte is hard to call, but more starts by Nova and Phelps should be better than what Hughes and others gave in 2013.

     

    RP

    2013:

    IP  WHIP

    69 1.46 Warren

    66 1.04 Robertson

    64 1.05 Rivera

    53 1.31 Kelley

    50 1.29 Claiborne

    42 1.74 Chamberlain

    39 1.18 Logan

    26 0.87 Huff

    21 1.43 Phelps

    12 1.67 Marshall

    2014: Robertson, Kelley, Claiborne, Cabral, Betances, Banuelos, Campos

    Losing Mo hurts badly- no doubt, but losing Joba is an addition by subtraction. I also do not think the yanks are done stocking their pen before ST.

     

    To me, the Yankee offense will be much much better, even if some of the older players get hurt a little more than the norm (but not as much as 2013).

    The rotation should be better and the pen probably worse.

    This team should win 90-95 games with moderate injuries.

    -681 PAs by Cano .899

    -486 PAs Overbay .639

    -458 PAs V Wells .631

    -340 PAs Stewart .566

    -299 PAs Hafner .679

    -245 PAs Grandy .723

    -181 PAs ARod  .771

    -152 PAs Adams .537

    -120 PAs Reynolds .755

    -118 PAs Youkilis .648

    Less PAs by...

    555 Suzuki .639

    336 Nunez .679

    303 Nix .619

    148 Romine .551

    More PAs by

    Teixeira .608

    Jeter  .542

    Soriano .850

    Cervelli .877

    B Ryan .563

     

    Added PAs:

    700+ Ellsbury

    650+ Beltran

    550+ McCann

    500+ K Johnson

    200+ B Roberts

     

    Pitching:

    -185 IP Pettitte

    -146 Hughes

    -64 Rivera

    -42 Joba

    -39 Logan

    More IP by...

    Nova & Phelps

    Additions:

    Tanaka, Pineda, Banuelos & Campos

     

    [/QUOTE]
     Why am I not surprised that that this thoughtful and thorough analysis by Moon is treated like it was radioactive (no comments), and the conversation immediately shifts to the off thread, dead horse dialogue of the "Yankees spend too much"; "Well, so do the Sox"; No, the Yanks spend more!" ad nauseam. Nice work, Moon.  

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    the Yanks improvement is impressive layer out like that.

    We were 13-5 vs yanks last year.  Return to an even match ups will be big factor to making the playoffs. Still, we match up well.

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

    maybe they will all turn back the clock 10 years.  that would be fine with me....

     
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    yes.  namecalling.  what did tanaka misplace his visa already???

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    Yes, I believe under your mom's pillow.

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    Imagine how cranky you'll be if the Yankees tank again this year.

    Should be fun...

     
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    yes.  namecalling.  what did tanaka misplace his visa already???

    [/QUOTE]


    Yes, I believe under your mom's pillow.

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    Imagine how cranky you'll be if the Yankees tank again this year.

    Should be fun...

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    I doubt the Yankees are going to be "formidable"...but I do love the rivalry.

     
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    Imagine how cranky you'll be if the Yankees tank again this year.

    Should be fun...

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    Nope, while I enjoy when they do well, I don't get "cranky" when my team does poorly.

    And I hardly consider 85-77 "tanking".

    Now, 69-93 on the other hand ...........

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    You're right.

    The Yankees just plain sucked.

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

    wow!!...Spring Training.....please hurry Sealed

     
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    Re: will the Yankees be formidable opponents in 2014

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     Why am I not surprised that that this thoughtful and thorough analysis by Moon is treated like it was radioactive (no comments), and the conversation immediately shifts to the off thread, dead horse dialogue of the "Yankees spend too much"; "Well, so do the Sox"; No, the Yanks spend more!" ad nauseam. Nice work, Moon.  

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    Radioactive?   LOL.   Moon does do an excellent job and is willing to look at statistics in a way that paints the picture, not looking for statistics to prove a point.  In logic, philosophy and spiritual conversational terms, Moon doesn't "text proof."  That is an admirable trait.  You even admire it.  But sometimes he does so complete a job in his presentation that there is not a knee jerk reaction response.  In other words, if one chooses to repond, he better have his duck (boats) in a row or else he easily proves himself to a far lesser antagonist than Moon is the protagonist.

    But you sure show your soft spot about the money spent v. money spent snow ball fight.  It isn't as intellectual, in its own merit, but it is still valid.  If you don't think so, ask the fan of the Marlins. the Astros or even the lone fan of the Rays (Dickie V. - hehe).  The simple reality is that Boston chose to respond to the NYY money tree routine and has finally backed off some.  While Boston is fourth in the MLB in salaries, they are spending 70% of what the Yanquis are spending - not including lux tax costs.  I beg to differ that 70% of something is the same as 100% of something.  The average salary for a Yanqui is   $7,151,109 while the average salary for a World Series Champion Red Sox is $5,021,850.   http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/salaries

         An average difference of over 2 million snake skins per player less ...   in anybody's universe that's a lot.   As a matter of fact the difference of $2,129,259 is almost equal to the average salary of a TB Ray - $2,144,269!!!!

     

     
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