WITH 1.47 ERA, WHY IS OKAJIMA NOT ON THIS ROSTER?

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    WITH 1.47 ERA, WHY IS OKAJIMA NOT ON THIS ROSTER?

    despite the indignity the sox have shown him, oki has knuckled down and been lights out in pawtucket. he's 5-0 and is dominating leftie hitters, allowing them to only hit .162 against him with a 1.69 ERA. his era is actually better vs righties at 1.35. his overall BA against is .185 (righties are at .197). he's not better than randy freakin williams? he's been in the playoff wars. we could use a guy to compliment bard right now. perhaps you have some informal competition with him and morales for the lefty setup role til miller can compete as well. lets see what we've got. let jenks hang out til september. 

    anyway, i want to see oki given one more shot very soon in a more meaningful role. he's healthy and seems to have his mojo back! or at least trade the man if you have chosen to lose trust in him. oki was getting it done before being ingloriously waived. he doesnt belong wasting away in triple A! seems like its non-baseball related!
     
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    They likely will need him to try again before the year is over.... 
     
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    Because no one in AAA ball has had the time yet to truly figure him out.

    IMO, nothing happened to Oki, but players in the bigs finally saw him enough to figure out his timing, his motion to the plate, and his off-speed pitch.

    I'm glad that he's posting those numbers in Pawtucket, but those will change dramatically if and when he returns.  Personally, I really like Oki and what he brought to this team.  But I highly doubt we see him as effective as he was.
     
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    September call-ups...minor league hitter not used to his jerky motion...
     
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    Because no one in AAA ball has had the time yet to truly figure him out. IMO, nothing happened to Oki, but players in the bigs finally saw him enough to figure out his timing, his motion to the plate, and his off-speed pitch. I'm glad that he's posting those numbers in Pawtucket, but those will change dramatically if and when he returns.  Personally, I really like Oki and what he brought to this team.  But I highly doubt we see him as effective as he was.
    Posted by soups
    OK, TRADE HIM TO THE national league! and how do u justify him bein g on such a great roll in 5 out of 6 of his last appearances before being waived after the trade for morales? i'm not buying it. he wasnt commanding his fast ball enough. he finally started doing t and has been a strike machine in the minors. not buying the negativity on oki. perhaps theo caught him with his wife or something along those lines.. seems very personal like some kind of vendetta to humiliate the man.
     
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    despite the indignity the sox have shown him, oki has knuckled down and been lights out in pawtucket. he's 5-0 and is dominating leftie hitters, allowing them to only hit .162 against him with a 1.69 ERA. his era is actually better vs righties at 1.35. his overall BA against is .185 (righties are at .197). he's not better than randy freakin williams?
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN


    I totally agree....Randy Williams....give me a break. Oki's role this time around with us would be different....situational lefty only. I would have him up here to try it....if he fails then you thank him for his great moments with the team and DFA him
     
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    He is exactly right.  Forget it!!

    Because no one in AAA ball has had the time yet to truly figure him out.
     
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    CC you can not be serious
     
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    Because Theo "I know what's best" Esptein is in charge of player personnel and he seems to think that putting rookies in there makes sense.

     
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    Because Theo "I know what's best" Esptein is in charge of player personnel and he seems to think that putting rookies in there makes sense.
    Posted by Alibiike


    who are the rookie lefty relief pitchers theo has up rt now?
     
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    In Response to Re: WITH 1.47 ERA, WHY IS OKAJIMA NOT ON THIS ROSTER? : OK, TRADE HIM TO THE national league! and how do u justify him bein g on such a great roll in 5 out of 6 of his last appearances before being waived after the trade for morales? i'm not buying it. he wasnt commanding his fast ball enough. he finally started doing t and has been a strike machine in the minors. not buying the negativity on oki. perhaps theo caught him with his wife or something along those lines.. seems very personal like some kind of vendetta to humiliate the man.
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN
    In one breath you mention that the player cleared waivers (nobody would take him for a $25K fee and assummption of the contract) and the next you say trade him, of course to the National League.

    The core stats over 30.2 innings and 21 appearances look very good, both ERA and the much more relevant WHIP. But MiLB doesn't provide splits so it is hard to say just what might be holding the RS back.
     
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    Because Theo "I know what's best" Esptein is in charge of player personnel and he seems to think that putting rookies in there makes sense.
    Posted by Alibiike


    Randy Williams is 35 years old. The Red Sox don't have any rookies in the bullpen currently. Try again.
     
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    Randy Williams ERA at Pawtucket was 1.29, better than Oki.  Its AAA!  Oki is known in the ML.  He can't fool them anymore.  That being said, Williams was terrible last night and proved that you bring him in when you're up by 8.  Oki wouldn't be any worse.  Worth a shot.  When and IF Jenks comes back Williams is gone anyway.
     
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    Randy Williams ERA at Pawtucket was 1.29, better than Oki.  Its AAA!  Oki is known in the ML.  He can't fool them anymore.  That being said, Williams was terrible last night and proved that you bring him in when you're up by 8.  Oki wouldn't be any worse.  Worth a shot.  When and IF Jenks comes back Williams is gone anyway.
    Posted by splendidsplinterteddyballgame


    So you're basing this off of one outing for Williams?  Albers must be pretty terrible too after that 1 bad outing he had months ago....
     
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    In Response to Re: WITH 1.47 ERA, WHY IS OKAJIMA NOT ON THIS ROSTER? : So you're basing this off of one outing for Williams?  Albers must be pretty terrible too after that 1 bad outing he had months ago....
    Posted by JB-3

     

    No, I'm basing it on the fact that Randy Williams is not very good.  Career E.R.A. of 5.95 in 92 appearances.  E.R.A. with Sox is 13.50.  Is that enough for you!
     
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     Okajima has pitched in 21 games this year at Pawtucket and is 5-0 on the season.. His ERA for 30.2 innings is 1.47. His BB/9 innings is .59 and his K/9innings is 9.10. In other words he has pitched really well. Maybe Williams will pitch well in the future, in spite of last night's outing, but if not Okajima deserves another short based on his terrific year.
     
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    Because Theo "I know what's best" Esptein is in charge of player personnel and he seems to think that putting rookies in there makes sense.
    Posted by Alibiike


    Epstein has put together a truly horrible team.  Losing a couple of games in July is unforgivable.
     
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    In Response to Re: WITH 1.47 ERA, WHY IS OKAJIMA NOT ON THIS ROSTER? : So you're basing this off of one outing for Williams?  Albers must be pretty terrible too after that 1 bad outing he had months ago....
    Posted by JB-3

    Randy Williams carrer ERA is close to 6.....Okajima Career ERA is 3.11,,,,,last year...his worst year it was 4.50.....this year in 7 games in Boston it was 4.32, so I cant see how anyone would think Williams is a better option than Okajima..
     
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    In Response to Re: WITH 1.47 ERA, WHY IS OKAJIMA NOT ON THIS ROSTER? : Randy Williams carrer ERA is close to 6.....Okajima Career ERA is 3.11,,,,,last year...his worst year it was 4.50.....this year in 7 games in Boston it was 4.32, so I cant see how anyone would think Williams is a better option than Okajima..
    Posted by tomnev
    AND HE WAS RAPIDLY TRENDING UP after some bad initial outings... yep, despite the AL having caught up to him. at worse he's like papelbon. not what he used to be but certainly still could compete at an elite level! the guy just needs an opportunity. cant believe there arent at least ten teams out there willing to take a chance on oki! the man has a track record, is healthy, dominating lefties, is a lefty, younger than most lefty specialists and 
    is on a present roll! he must be hungry and ready to prove himself again!
     
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    In Response to Re: WITH 1.47 ERA, WHY IS OKAJIMA NOT ON THIS ROSTER? : AND HE WAS RAPIDLY TRENDING UP after some bad initial outings... yep, despite the AL having caught up to him. at worse he's like papelbon. not what he used to be but certainly still could compete at an elite level! the guy just needs an opportunity. cant believe there arent at least ten teams out there willing to take a chance on oki! the man has a track record, is healthy, dominating lefties, is a lefty, younger than most lefty specialists and  is on a present roll! he must be hungry and ready to prove himself again!
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN


    I am shocked that a team like the Phillies wasnt all over Oki.....they are desperate for Bullpen help and a change in leagues would give Oki some of his advantage back. With his success at AAA, if the sox DFA him again this time he will be snapped up.
     
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    because F Morales throws 95 mph gas, R Williams as well
     
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    Okajima spoke out against the Red Sox and he really doesn't add any value at the major league level. He wasn't good at getting lefties out, so a guy like Atchison would be a better option.
     
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    I find it confounding as well. The Red Sox have something against Okajima personally. I don't care if Randy Williams throws high heat. I care about results. Okajima has been a significantly better reliever at every level. Even when he's supposedly "terrible," he still has an ERA in the low to mid-4s.

    In any case, I suspect Okajima will return to Boston for the September roster expansion. If not, then the team definitely despises him. The only problem is they'd have to designate someone else for assignment or place that player on the 60-day DL. Okajima is not currently on the 40-man roster. Shifting Jed Lowrie to the 60-day DL would probably get it done. He's been gone awhile anyway and does not appear to be returning any time soon.
     
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    despite the indignity the sox have shown him, oki has knuckled down and been lights out in pawtucket. he's 5-0 and is dominating leftie hitters, allowing them to only hit .162 against him with a 1.69 ERA. his era is actually better vs righties at 1.35. his overall BA against is .185 (righties are at .197). he's not better than randy freakin williams? he's been in the playoff wars. we could use a guy to compliment bard right now. perhaps you have some informal competition with him and morales for the lefty setup role til miller can compete as well. lets see what we've got. let jenks hang out til september.  anyway, i want to see oki given one more shot very soon in a more meaningful role. he's healthy and seems to have his mojo back! or at least trade the man if you have chosen to lose trust in him. oki was getting it done before being ingloriously waived. he doesnt belong wasting away in triple A! seems like its non-baseball related!
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN


    Pawtucket is not the major leagues.  The MLB hitters are onto him and the days of fooling them with his weird delivery is over.  His fastball tops off at 89 mph and that spells disaster. 
     
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