Yankees to sign Tanaka

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    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    Have you looked at Betances numbers in the minors?

    Besides 2010, there's not much to get excited about.

    If the Yankees were planning on all three of those pitchers to keep them from spending over limit, you're right they weren't desperate, they were delusional.

     

    that's all a mater of opinion

    there are others who dissagree with both of us

    and if I wanted to I'm pretty sure 

    I could find a link to support my post


    And, I'd love to hear more about this idea of the Sox not winning it all, if the Yankees missed the post season.

    don't think I ever said that please read more carefully

    I just said it was more likely 2 B true

    vs the sox winning was the reason the yanks

    did all this ' big panic type spending'

    even though their payroll is still 20 mill less than last yr

    Are you saying that the Sox would've had a tougher time facing the Yankees pitching staff, than Rays? Really?

     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

    That's a laugh...

    The "kids" stunk. The Yankees idea of using their minor league players, like the rest of the league does, didn't work.

    So, they abandonded the idea.

    what R U talking about what kids that they planned on starting last yr stunk ?

    that caused them to abandonded the idea.

    The three pitchers are all going to pitch this year.

    The Yankees were willing to have the kids "step up" in 2012, but not this year?

    It all sounds pretty desperate to me.

     

    U sound pretty desperate ( desperate to find more ways to trash ny ms kimmi)

    R U really going 2 deny the difference between guys who were  growing in the minors

    and guys who just  lost a yr plus in their development after serious injuries ?

    Probably does to the rest of the league too.

    Just not to the "keep it real" Yankee fans, evidently.

    spoken by 4B's a guy

    who wasn't honest enough to admit the sox got lucky with the

    dodger trade

     
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    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    Have you looked at Betances numbers in the minors?

    Besides 2010, there's not much to get excited about.

    If the Yankees were planning on all three of those pitchers to keep them from spending over limit, you're right they weren't desperate, they were delusional.

     

    that's all a mater of opinion

    there are others who dissagree with both of us

    and if I wanted to I'm pretty sure 

    I could find a link to support my post


    And, I'd love to hear more about this idea of the Sox not winning it all, if the Yankees missed the post season.

    don't think I ever said that please read more carefully

    I just said it was more likely 2 B true

    vs the sox winning was the reason the yanks

    did all this ' big panic type spending'

    even though their payroll is still 20 mill less than last yr

    Are you saying that the Sox would've had a tougher time facing the Yankees pitching staff, than Rays? Really?

     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

    That's a laugh...

    The "kids" stunk. The Yankees idea of using their minor league players, like the rest of the league does, didn't work.

    So, they abandonded the idea.

    what R U talking about what kids that they planned on starting last yr stunk ?

    that caused them to abandonded the idea.

    The three pitchers are all going to pitch this year.

    The Yankees were willing to have the kids "step up" in 2012, but not this year?

    It all sounds pretty desperate to me.

     

    U sound pretty desperate ( desperate to find more ways to trash ny ms kimmi)

    R U really going 2 deny the difference between guys who were  growing in the minors

    and guys who just  lost a yr plus in their development after serious injuries ?

    Probably does to the rest of the league too.

    Just not to the "keep it real" Yankee fans, evidently.

    spoken by 4B's a guy

    who wasn't honest enough to admit the sox got lucky with the

    dodger trade



           "dodger trade"

                 Lucky as in once in a life time.

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from ThefourBs. Show ThefourBs's posts

    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

     

    don't think I ever said that please read more carefully

    I just said it was more likely 2 B true

    vs the sox winning was the reason the yanks

    did all this ' big panic type spending'

    even though their payroll is still 20 mill less than last yr

    The fact that the Sox and Rays finished way ahead of the Yankees was enough to send them into a panic.

     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

    Better, yes. Better than the Rays? Hardly...

    what R U talking about what kids that they planned on starting last yr stunk ?

    that caused them to abandonded the idea.

    The three pitchers are all going to pitch this year.

    The Yankees were willing to have the kids "step up" in 2012, but not this year?

    It all sounds pretty desperate to me.

     

    U sound pretty desperate ( desperate to find more ways to trash ny ms kimmi)

    R U really going 2 deny the difference between guys who were  growing in the minors

    and guys who just  lost a yr plus in their development after serious injuries ?

    If the Yankees expected them to step up and save them from spending like drunken sailors, then how much more developement did they need?

    Pineda started 28 games for the Mariners.

    He's hardly a developing prospect.

    spoken by 4B's a guy

    who wasn't honest enough to admit the sox got lucky with the

    dodger trade




    No more disingenuous than your current song and dance.

    Welcome to the club, "NC" Zac.

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from ThefourBs. Show ThefourBs's posts

    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    Have you looked at Betances numbers in the minors?

    Besides 2010, there's not much to get excited about.

    If the Yankees were planning on all three of those pitchers to keep them from spending over limit, you're right they weren't desperate, they were delusional.

     

    that's all a mater of opinion

    there are others who dissagree with both of us

    and if I wanted to I'm pretty sure 

    I could find a link to support my post


    And, I'd love to hear more about this idea of the Sox not winning it all, if the Yankees missed the post season.

    don't think I ever said that please read more carefully

    I just said it was more likely 2 B true

    vs the sox winning was the reason the yanks

    did all this ' big panic type spending'

    even though their payroll is still 20 mill less than last yr

    Are you saying that the Sox would've had a tougher time facing the Yankees pitching staff, than Rays? Really?

     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

    That's a laugh...

    The "kids" stunk. The Yankees idea of using their minor league players, like the rest of the league does, didn't work.

    So, they abandonded the idea.

    what R U talking about what kids that they planned on starting last yr stunk ?

    that caused them to abandonded the idea.

    The three pitchers are all going to pitch this year.

    The Yankees were willing to have the kids "step up" in 2012, but not this year?

    It all sounds pretty desperate to me.

     

    U sound pretty desperate ( desperate to find more ways to trash ny ms kimmi)

    R U really going 2 deny the difference between guys who were  growing in the minors

    and guys who just  lost a yr plus in their development after serious injuries ?

    Probably does to the rest of the league too.

    Just not to the "keep it real" Yankee fans, evidently.

    spoken by 4B's a guy

    who wasn't honest enough to admit the sox got lucky with the

    dodger trade



           "dodger trade"

                 Lucky as in once in a life time.




    Yeah, the Dodgers really got taken.

    They finished 6 games better than the 2012 team, finished first in the division and made it to the NLCS, after missing the playoffs in 2012.

    The trade really set them back...

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from Hingham Hammer. Show Hingham Hammer's posts

    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    In response to ThefourBs's comment:

    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    Have you looked at Betances numbers in the minors?

    Besides 2010, there's not much to get excited about.

    If the Yankees were planning on all three of those pitchers to keep them from spending over limit, you're right they weren't desperate, they were delusional.

     

    that's all a mater of opinion

    there are others who dissagree with both of us

    and if I wanted to I'm pretty sure 

    I could find a link to support my post


    And, I'd love to hear more about this idea of the Sox not winning it all, if the Yankees missed the post season.

    don't think I ever said that please read more carefully

    I just said it was more likely 2 B true

    vs the sox winning was the reason the yanks

    did all this ' big panic type spending'

    even though their payroll is still 20 mill less than last yr

    Are you saying that the Sox would've had a tougher time facing the Yankees pitching staff, than Rays? Really?

     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

    That's a laugh...

    The "kids" stunk. The Yankees idea of using their minor league players, like the rest of the league does, didn't work.

    So, they abandonded the idea.

    what R U talking about what kids that they planned on starting last yr stunk ?

    that caused them to abandonded the idea.

    The three pitchers are all going to pitch this year.

    The Yankees were willing to have the kids "step up" in 2012, but not this year?

    It all sounds pretty desperate to me.

     

    U sound pretty desperate ( desperate to find more ways to trash ny ms kimmi)

    R U really going 2 deny the difference between guys who were  growing in the minors

    and guys who just  lost a yr plus in their development after serious injuries ?

    Probably does to the rest of the league too.

    Just not to the "keep it real" Yankee fans, evidently.

    spoken by 4B's a guy

    who wasn't honest enough to admit the sox got lucky with the

    dodger trade



           "dodger trade"

                 Lucky as in once in a life time.




    Yeah, the Dodgers really got taken.

    They finished 6 games better than the 2012 team, finished first in the division and made it to the NLCS, after missing the playoffs in 2012.

    The trade really set them back...



               Yeah, but it brought the Sox a World Championship.

               So what's your point Skippy?

     
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  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from Hingham Hammer. Show Hingham Hammer's posts

    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    In response to ThefourBs's comment:

    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:

    In response to ThefourBs's comment:

    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    Have you looked at Betances numbers in the minors?

    Besides 2010, there's not much to get excited about.

    If the Yankees were planning on all three of those pitchers to keep them from spending over limit, you're right they weren't desperate, they were delusional.

     

    that's all a mater of opinion

    there are others who dissagree with both of us

    and if I wanted to I'm pretty sure 

    I could find a link to support my post


    And, I'd love to hear more about this idea of the Sox not winning it all, if the Yankees missed the post season.

    don't think I ever said that please read more carefully

    I just said it was more likely 2 B true

    vs the sox winning was the reason the yanks

    did all this ' big panic type spending'

    even though their payroll is still 20 mill less than last yr

    Are you saying that the Sox would've had a tougher time facing the Yankees pitching staff, than Rays? Really?

     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

    That's a laugh...

    The "kids" stunk. The Yankees idea of using their minor league players, like the rest of the league does, didn't work.

    So, they abandonded the idea.

    what R U talking about what kids that they planned on starting last yr stunk ?

    that caused them to abandonded the idea.

    The three pitchers are all going to pitch this year.

    The Yankees were willing to have the kids "step up" in 2012, but not this year?

    It all sounds pretty desperate to me.

     

    U sound pretty desperate ( desperate to find more ways to trash ny ms kimmi)

    R U really going 2 deny the difference between guys who were  growing in the minors

    and guys who just  lost a yr plus in their development after serious injuries ?

    Probably does to the rest of the league too.

    Just not to the "keep it real" Yankee fans, evidently.

    spoken by 4B's a guy

    who wasn't honest enough to admit the sox got lucky with the

    dodger trade



           "dodger trade"

                 Lucky as in once in a life time.




    Yeah, the Dodgers really got taken.

    They finished 6 games better than the 2012 team, finished first in the division and made it to the NLCS, after missing the playoffs in 2012.

    The trade really set them back...



               Yeah, but it brought the Sox a World Championship.

               So what's your point Skippy?



    "Lucky" trades don't generally benefit both teams.

    Pull your nose out Zac's rear end and try to keep up.



    "trades don't generally benefit both teams"

              That generally is the goal.

    "nose out of Zac's rear end"

               My hope was since Zac's attempt to school you was falling on deaf ears then perhaps a fellow Sox fan might have a better chance of bringing you to credibility.

               That has appeared to have failed as well.

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from slasher9. Show slasher9's posts

    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:

    In response to ThefourBs's comment:

    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    Have you looked at Betances numbers in the minors?

    Besides 2010, there's not much to get excited about.

    If the Yankees were planning on all three of those pitchers to keep them from spending over limit, you're right they weren't desperate, they were delusional.

     

    that's all a mater of opinion

    there are others who dissagree with both of us

    and if I wanted to I'm pretty sure 

    I could find a link to support my post


    And, I'd love to hear more about this idea of the Sox not winning it all, if the Yankees missed the post season.

    don't think I ever said that please read more carefully

    I just said it was more likely 2 B true

    vs the sox winning was the reason the yanks

    did all this ' big panic type spending'

    even though their payroll is still 20 mill less than last yr

    Are you saying that the Sox would've had a tougher time facing the Yankees pitching staff, than Rays? Really?

     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

    That's a laugh...

    The "kids" stunk. The Yankees idea of using their minor league players, like the rest of the league does, didn't work.

    So, they abandonded the idea.

    what R U talking about what kids that they planned on starting last yr stunk ?

    that caused them to abandonded the idea.

    The three pitchers are all going to pitch this year.

    The Yankees were willing to have the kids "step up" in 2012, but not this year?

    It all sounds pretty desperate to me.

     

    U sound pretty desperate ( desperate to find more ways to trash ny ms kimmi)

    R U really going 2 deny the difference between guys who were  growing in the minors

    and guys who just  lost a yr plus in their development after serious injuries ?

    Probably does to the rest of the league too.

    Just not to the "keep it real" Yankee fans, evidently.

    spoken by 4B's a guy

    who wasn't honest enough to admit the sox got lucky with the

    dodger trade



           "dodger trade"

                 Lucky as in once in a life time.




    Yeah, the Dodgers really got taken.

    They finished 6 games better than the 2012 team, finished first in the division and made it to the NLCS, after missing the playoffs in 2012.

    The trade really set them back...



               Yeah, but it brought the Sox a World Championship.

               So what's your point Skippy?




    i love the name calling that the yankees fans like to do.  it's cute.

     

    @ Zac:  the yankees were closer to losing season than they were to making the postseason.  that is one giant "IF"  you are throwing around......

     

     
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    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    In response to slasher9's comment:

    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:

    In response to ThefourBs's comment:

    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    Have you looked at Betances numbers in the minors?

    Besides 2010, there's not much to get excited about.

    If the Yankees were planning on all three of those pitchers to keep them from spending over limit, you're right they weren't desperate, they were delusional.

     

    that's all a mater of opinion

    there are others who dissagree with both of us

    and if I wanted to I'm pretty sure 

    I could find a link to support my post


    And, I'd love to hear more about this idea of the Sox not winning it all, if the Yankees missed the post season.

    don't think I ever said that please read more carefully

    I just said it was more likely 2 B true

    vs the sox winning was the reason the yanks

    did all this ' big panic type spending'

    even though their payroll is still 20 mill less than last yr

    Are you saying that the Sox would've had a tougher time facing the Yankees pitching staff, than Rays? Really?

     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

    That's a laugh...

    The "kids" stunk. The Yankees idea of using their minor league players, like the rest of the league does, didn't work.

    So, they abandonded the idea.

    what R U talking about what kids that they planned on starting last yr stunk ?

    that caused them to abandonded the idea.

    The three pitchers are all going to pitch this year.

    The Yankees were willing to have the kids "step up" in 2012, but not this year?

    It all sounds pretty desperate to me.

     

    U sound pretty desperate ( desperate to find more ways to trash ny ms kimmi)

    R U really going 2 deny the difference between guys who were  growing in the minors

    and guys who just  lost a yr plus in their development after serious injuries ?

    Probably does to the rest of the league too.

    Just not to the "keep it real" Yankee fans, evidently.

    spoken by 4B's a guy

    who wasn't honest enough to admit the sox got lucky with the

    dodger trade



           "dodger trade"

                 Lucky as in once in a life time.




    Yeah, the Dodgers really got taken.

    They finished 6 games better than the 2012 team, finished first in the division and made it to the NLCS, after missing the playoffs in 2012.

    The trade really set them back...



               Yeah, but it brought the Sox a World Championship.

               So what's your point Skippy?




    i love the name calling that the yankees fans like to do.  it's cute.

     

    @ Zac:  the yankees were closer to losing season than they were to making the postseason.  that is one giant "IF"  you are throwing around......

     

               "name calling that yankee fans like to do"

                    Still think I'am a yankee fan.

                    You really are one slow dude.

     
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    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:




    Yeah, the Dodgers really got taken.

    They finished 6 games better than the 2012 team, finished first in the division and made it to the NLCS, after missing the playoffs in 2012.

    The trade really set them back...



               Yeah, but it brought the Sox a World Championship.

               So what's your point Skippy?




i love the name calling that the yankees fans like to do.  it's cute.

 

@ Zac:  the yankees were closer to losing season than they were to making the postseason.  that is one giant "IF"  you are throwing around......

 

           "name calling that yankee fans like to do"

                Still think I'am a yankee fan.

                You really are one slow dude.




I just call it like i see it.

walks like a duck & quacks like a duck.

if i'm wrong, i'm wrong.  i will get over it.

 
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    In response to slasher9's comment:

    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:




    Yeah, the Dodgers really got taken.

    They finished 6 games better than the 2012 team, finished first in the division and made it to the NLCS, after missing the playoffs in 2012.

    The trade really set them back...



               Yeah, but it brought the Sox a World Championship.

               So what's your point Skippy?




    i love the name calling that the yankees fans like to do.  it's cute.

     

    @ Zac:  the yankees were closer to losing season than they were to making the postseason.  that is one giant "IF"  you are throwing around......

     

  •            "name calling that yankee fans like to do"

                    Still think I'am a yankee fan.

                    You really are one slow dude.




    I just call it like i see it.

    walks like a duck & quacks like a duck.

    if i'm wrong, i'm wrong.  i will get over it.




    HH isn't a Yankee fan.

    He's just a Yankee fan suck up.

    That may be worse...

     
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    In response to Ice-Cream's comment:

    In response to RedSoxKimmi's comment:

    In response to Ice-Cream's comment:

     

    The North Korea regime will collapse before the Yankees get their payroll under $189 million.   LOL

     




    LOL Ice Cream

    The Yankees need Theo.  He would get their payroll under $189 million, and still field a competitive team.  Wink

     



    True RedSoxKimmi  Laughing

    If Theo ran the Yankees,.........

    Theo: "Jeter, I want to build a sexy team."

    Jeter: "Cool!"

    Theo: "Therefore, we are designating you for assignment."

    Jeter: "No gift basket for you......"

    LOL

     

    YellYell Tongue Out


     
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    In response to RedSoxKimmi's comment:

    In response to Ice-Cream's comment:

     

    The North Korea regime will collapse before the Yankees get their payroll under $189 million.   LOL

     




    LOL Ice Cream

    The Yankees need Theo.  He would get their payroll under $189 million, and still field a competitive team.  Wink

     

    LOL..alright lady, don't get me started! Smile


     
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    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

     



     
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    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    Even with the addition of Masahiro Tanaka, the Yankees starting rotation still ranks only third in the American League East, according to Boston Herald columnist Scott Lauber:

    http://bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/boston_red_sox/2014/01/mlb_notes_yankees_still_understaffed

    However, the 2014 WAR projections* at FanGraphs suggest a different story:

    Jon Lester 3.5, John Lackey 3.4, Clay Buchholz 2.4, Jake Peavy 2.4, Felix Doubront 2.4, Ryan Dempster 1.1

    CC Sabathia 3.9, Masahiro Tanaka 3.9, Hiroki Kuroda 3.4, Ivan Nova 2.8, David Phelps 1.1, Michael Pineda unlisted

    * Wins Above Replacement, combining the ZiPS and Oliver projections:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=3 

    http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=9

     
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    In response to slasher9's comment:

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

     



    LOL..man, that's a vicious sinker she's got there :-) 


     
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    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

     

     

    BTW how many FA did the sox, with their great farm,  buy last yr

     

     



    Its not quantity PSZ, its VALUE. Look at the bargains they got for the money they spent. Uehara for 2 yrs/$9.25M; Carp (.885 OPS) for $1.4M; Mike Napoli got an incentive laden contract and produced (.842 OPS). Sure, we had a some lemons too, but no lemons the size of Arod, Texeira, or what Tanaka is likely to be, eventually. The Yankee strategy is to go out and try to buy a championship team; that can hardly be debated. Had they been concerned with the health of their minor league system it would not be in the sorry state it is now in. Not since they had Mo and Jeter and Posada et al coming up did they win with their farm system. The Sox tried it that way too, and I admit that at one time I was all for trying to get high priced FAs, but the Sox learned, as I did, that one does not build a consistent winner that way. You NEED low priced players from your minor league system as a foundation to which you can add a few FAs who represent value.

     

    You brought up the Yankee draft again. How many of those guys are ready to help the team in 2014? How about in 2015? I think they had something like three picks in the top thirty or so draft picks; its hard not to succeed that way in choosing potentially good players, but they are a very very long way off. Maybe they will help, eventually; maybe not. But I know that from the group of Owens/Raynaudo/Britton/Webster/Workman/Barnes/Cecchini/Brentz/Swihart/Vasquez and others (not to mention JBJ and Bogaerts who are already likely starters this year) that SOME of those guys will contribute THIS YEAR OR NEXT. And with luck and attention, our minor league system will keep the supply line of good young talent coming for many years.




    while everything most of what U said mr green  has merit

    IMO it has a little less merit when U R talking about

    the yankees with their resource advantages

    yes after not having any PO wins 4 a few yrs

    U guys won last yr  congrats

    but the yanks and their ways R only 1 yr away from the AL finals

    and a pretty good streak of making the play offs

     

    with all due respect

    get back to me after a back 2 back or 2 of 3 streak



    Tell you what: I will get back to you now since we have won rings in three of the last ten years. Yeah, the franchise was in disarray for a few years in the interim, but its found its way again. And while the Yankees will most likely be better in 2014, their long term outlook is not as bright because of the lack of minor league players who are ready to contribute in the near future. Only when that changes will they be a stable consistent competitor. Even the Yankees have financial limits. They had to let their best offensive player go elsewhere because of those limits. The Red Sox learned what it takes to be able to compete every year (not that they will succeed every year); they Yankees are still trying to buy their way into the playoffs every year. They have not learned.

     
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    The Yankees will be competitive. The rays will be annoying. This has devolved into a flame war, and I expect better of you all... Sox and Yankees posters combined.

     
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    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    In response to hill55's comment:

    Even with the addition of Masahiro Tanaka, the Yankees starting rotation still ranks only third in the American League East, according to Boston Herald columnist Scott Lauber:

    http://bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/boston_red_sox/2014/01/mlb_notes_yankees_still_understaffed

    However, the 2014 WAR projections* at FanGraphs suggest a different story:

    Jon Lester 3.5, John Lackey 3.4, Clay Buchholz 2.4, Jake Peavy 2.4, Felix Doubront 2.4, Ryan Dempster 1.1

    CC Sabathia 3.9, Masahiro Tanaka 3.9, Hiroki Kuroda 3.4, Ivan Nova 2.8, David Phelps 1.1, Michael Pineda unlisted

    * Wins Above Replacement, combining the ZiPS and Oliver projections:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=3 

    http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=9



    Not really sure you can accurately project WAR Hill. Its guesswork, especially in the case of Tanaka. Who would have projected Lackey's season last year? And somehow next year is supposed to be better for him (his WAR in 2013 was 2.8 but his ERA+ was 116 with 10 wins and 13 losses because his team failed to score many runs for him)?? I know you use WAR a lot, and I think it has value, but not to predict a player's performance-only in retrospect.

     
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    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    In response to jete02fan's comment:

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     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

     



    LOL..man, that's a vicious sinker she's got there :-) 




    I can see why Jeter dumped her.   LOL

     

     
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    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    In response to Ice-Cream's comment:

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     who knows

    if the yanks had made the PO

    I would assume they would of had better pitching than they did

     



    LOL..man, that's a vicious sinker she's got there :-) 




    I can see why Jeter dumped her.   LOL

     



    I thought it was Arod who dumped her.....Tongue Out

     
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    Re: Yankees to sign Tanaka

    The Yankees added: Tanaka, Ellsbury, Beltran, McCann

    but Lost: Pettitte, Granderson, Cano, Rivera.

     

    Is the sum of the first group more than the Later?  Although many question marks come with that group I would say yes.  But by how much?  not that much I think.

    And they still lack depth everywhere, and they are a year older everywhere else.  They were 1 series away from being a losing team last year.  Unless everything breaks right for NY, I think they are a wild card competitor at best right now. 

     
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