Yankees went cheap on bullpen

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    My best guess is that he's talking about those programs that people have paid into all their lives - like an insurance policy - and now that the time has come for us to collect on the money we've paid in we're talked about as if we're welfare mothers.  





     


     


    I can't help but wonder what the attitude would be of anyone who had a true insurance policy and when the time came for them to collect on it they were told by the insurance company, "Sorry.  We spent the money on other things."  


     


     


     


     Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.


     


     


     


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    You're probably right. Yeah I collect SSI as I contributed to it as a teenager to age 66.


     


    I also have a couple of pensions and investments that supplement my income.


     


    But what working stiff in their right mind would get up to answer the bell every morning for 50 years then leave that money on the table.


     


    On one of the other sites that he and I were on that he subsequently was bounced from, he referred to one of the posters  Jon a life long Red Sox fan and in the Navy as being a welfare recipient as living off the people because he was serving.


     


    This is who you are dealing with.


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


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            Just catching up on your half truths old man.


                "jon.........navy.........welfare recipient"


                       Another slanted half truth.


                       To set the record straight Jon is in the Canadian Navy and spent 24/7 posting non stop while on duty and proud of it. He was a site moderator to boot. IMO that's not what he was being paid to do. Therefore I posted he should be ashamed of himself cashing government checks. It was clear Jon didn't have the backs of fellow soldiers foremost on his mind as he should have. The only back he had covered was his own.


                 

     
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    They have guys in that pen who are not major league pitchers and when they finally face a tough line up they are going to get crushed.


     


     


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    New York Yankees 13m
    Pitchers currently in the #Yankees bullpen have combined for a 1.58 ERA and .199 opponents' batting average this season.


    Overall, #Yankees relievers lead the AL in strikeouts (109) and K/9 (10.44). 


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    Yeah, the bullpen is better than I thought, zac.


    However, the rotation, after Tanaka, is now a catastrophe.


     


     

     
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    Re: Yankees went cheap on bullpen

    greetings HH


    yes depth is a concern 4 nyy


    and most teams


     


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    Yeah, the bullpen is better than I thought, zac.


    better than any of us thought nut


    However, the rotation, after Tanaka, is now a catastrophe.


    catastrophe ?


    oh come on hfx


    if that was true............. surely it would have it's own thread ;-)


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    and yes if rotation issues continue


    it will give your questioning of the BP even more merit


    as they will become over used and fizzle


     


     


     

     
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     Hingham Hammer's comment:


    Just catching up on your half truths old man.


    "jon.........navy.........welfare recipient"


    Another slanted half truth.


    To set the record straight Jon is in the Canadian Navy and spent 24/7 posting non stop while on duty and proud of it. He was a site moderator to boot. IMO that's not what he was being paid to do. Therefore I posted he should be ashamed of himself cashing government checks. It was clear Jon didn't have the backs of fellow soldiers foremost on his mind as he should have. The only back he had covered was his own.


     


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    You setting the record straight.


    Now how comical would that be?


    Jon had an 8-4 job where he sat at a pc all day when not out at sea.


    When he was at sea we didn't hear from him at all for months at a time.


    Jon's posting was not much different from most others here who also post when they do have an opportunity from work.


    You used your name calling references to him as an attempted put down because you didn't like him, nothing more.


    Jon was/is just a stand up guy who did not care for your personal attacks against others and was open about it.


    You attempted to demean Jon the same exact way you do with the name calling directed at me in almost every post.


    A leopard doesn't change his spots.

     
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    Re: Yankees went cheap on bullpen

    Yankee relievers gave up 3 runs in the 8th last night by issuing 6 walks.

     
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    Yankee relievers gave up 3 runs in the 8th last night by issuing 6 walks.


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    The Yankees pitching has major issues Hfx while it's the only thing keeping our team somewhat alive.  Like our lack of depth and sketchy defense The Yankees pitching may be a struggle for them all season.

     
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    Yankee relievers gave up 3 runs in the 8th last night by issuing 6 walks.


     


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    The Yankees pitching has major issues Hfx while it's the only thing keeping our team somewhat alive.  Like our lack of depth and sketchy defense The Yankees pitching may be a struggle for them all season.


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    Then Giradi gets tossed arguing a 1-1 count. I have no idea what he could be mad about. He said the ump was talking to him like he was a little kid.. I think Joe was mad his team had the bases loaded in the top half OF THE 8 with no outs and scored 0, that is where his anger came into play. Just a guess.

     
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    Yankee relievers gave up 3 runs in the 8th last night by issuing 6 walks.


     




    Too be fair, they did have to deal with Laz Dias behind the plate.


     


    Still, to walk the batting order around is a special feat.


    Too bad it was on too late to watch! LOL
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    Then Giradi gets tossed arguing a 1-1 count. I have no idea what he could be mad about. He said the ump was talking to him like he was a little kid..


    ''he gave me the Mutombo''


    LOL


    I think Joe was mad his team had the bases loaded in the top half OF THE 8 with no outs and scored 0, that is where his anger came into play. Just a guess.


    fair guess except that  joe got booted with no outs in that inning


    so unless he's clairvoyant let's go with the mutombo finger pointing


     


     


    "I mentioned to Laz in a respectful way that I thought the pitch was up to Kelly Johnson earlier in the game and he gave me the Mutombo,'' Girardi said, imitating a wagging index finger. "I don't appreciate that. I'm not a little kid. I don't need to be scolded. Obviously we're trying to work together and I just thought there were a lot of inconsistencies tonight.


    "It's the biggest pitch of the game to that point,'' Girardi said of the 1-0 to Gardner that Diaz called a strike. "It's a lot different, 2-0. It changes the whole at-bat. Now the pressure is clearly on the pitcher."

     
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    Re: Yankees went cheap on bullpen

    Seriously, what can the Yankees have been thinking letting Logan go and replacing him with Thornton?  Nice cost-cutting move, perhaps, terrible baseball move.


    Thornton registered a WHIP of 1.76 with the Sox last year and it's 1.80 so far this year.  He still throws 94-96 but that's all he's got.  His command is brutal.


     

     
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    Didn't take TWM very long this season to vanish.


    Pounding his chest early on has been replaced with golden silence.

     
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    Didn't take TWM very long this season to vanish.


     


    Pounding his chest early on has been replaced with golden silence.


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    expected, but always good to point out.  nice job HH.


     

     
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    Didn't take TWM very long this season to vanish.


     


     


     


    Pounding his chest early on has been replaced with golden silence.


     


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    expected, but always good to point out.  nice job HH.


     


     


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    Didn't take TWM very long this season to vanish.


     


    Pounding his chest early on has been replaced with golden silence.


     


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    I've been here, reading posts like I always do. What is it you would like me to comment on?


    Pounding my chest early? That's pretty comical. You wish. Show me the posts where I was dumb enough to do that. I've watched way too much baseball to that especially this early in the season. 


    I've said numerous times that the health of any given team in the ALE will determine who finishes where. 


    Still to early to sort things out, both the Yankees and Rays hit by the injury bug particularly the rotation and it certainly doesn't seem to be age related.


    Betances looking extremely good working out of the pen, the pitcher HH has mocked for a few years and called a flop, while I just countered with sometimes it takes certain prospects longer to develop, no two are alike. Coming in against the Brewers with the bases full one out wiffing both batters the second Carlos Gomez to end the inning.


    Btw my presence wasn't missed after a few Sox losses then the bravado changes to attack mode after a couple of Sox wins and a few Yankee game and player losses. Presto HH back in the saddle.

     
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    Re: Yankees went cheap on bullpen

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    Seriously, what can the Yankees have been thinking letting Logan go and replacing him with Thornton?  Nice cost-cutting move, perhaps, terrible baseball move.


    Thornton registered a WHIP of 1.76 with the Sox last year and it's 1.80 so far this year.  He still throws 94-96 but that's all he's got.  His command is brutal.


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     I agree with your point about Thornton. I scratched my head when they signed him although letting Logan walk didn't bring any tears.

     
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    Betances looking extremely good working out of the pen, the pitcher HH has mocked for a few years and called a flop, while I just countered with sometimes it takes certain prospects longer to develop, no two are alike. Coming in against the Brewers with the bases full one out wiffing both batters the second Carlos Gomez to end the inning.


     


    Better than good, TWM, but Betances was drafted and developed to be a starter, wasn't he?


     


     

     
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    "Betances looking extremely good working out of the pen, the pitcher HH has mocked for a few years and called a flop, while I just countered with sometimes it takes certain prospects longer to develop, no two are alike. Coming in against the Brewers with the bases full one out wiffing both batters the second Carlos Gomez to end the inning."


     


     Better than good, TWM, but Betances was drafted and developed to be a starter, wasn't he?


     


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    Yes he was in 2006, but Mariano was also a starter early on.


     Betances did not really excel at the farm level until he was moved into the pen and I don't expect him to go back.


     


     


     


     


     





     
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    Cue the delusional yankee fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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     Yes he was in 2006, but Mariano was also a starter early on.


     


     Betances did not really excel at the farm level until he was moved into the pen and I don't expect him to go back.


     




    TIMEOUT...HOLDUP.....did you just compare Betances to the great mariano rivera????  yup, you did.  did you really think i would let you get away with that?????


     


    back to the new mariano.....guess the most IP that Betances has had in a season in his MLB career? 


     


    that's right - 20ip (this year).  it's may 13th.  how's that arm going to feel after....oh....another 3 or 4 months??? 


     


    pssssst.....that's an unknown basket you are putting all your eggs in.

     
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    TIMEOUT...HOLDUP.....did you just compare Betances to the great mariano rivera????  yup, you did.  did you really think i would let you get away with that?????


    back to the new mariano.....guess the most IP that Betances has had in a season in his MLB career? 


    that's right - 20ip (this year).  it's may 13th.  how's that arm going to feel after....oh....another 3 or 4 months??? 


    pssssst.....that's an unknown basket you are putting all your eggs in.


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    Only a nincompoop would misconstrue what I posted.


    You're like HH you have nothing else to grasp onto so you take my post entirely out of context.


    Let me break it down real slow for you so you can understand.


    Mariano began his career as a starter in the Yankee organization where he struggled then found his niche coming out of the pen, Betances can do the same thing.


    Now, did I compare Betances skill level in any way with Mariano?


    How stupid would that be to compare a rookie with a little over a month under his belt to the greatest closer ever who had a 20 year career?


    The point I made was the similar situations they both found themselves in as young prospects trying to break into the big leagues, after both had limited success working out of the rotation they worked better out of the pen.


     


     

     
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    Matt Thorton says it all for me


     


    He got cut from A World Series team and the bottom feeders jump all over him


     


     


     


    Just like Belhorn, Myers, Embree, etc etc etc


     


     


     


    One of the most enjoyable things about being a Red Sox fan is watching yankee fans have to root for former Red Sox players.  You know, the ones yankee fans on these boards butchered but when they put on the pin stripes they are Gods.  And they wonder why we think they are all weenies.......

     
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    Matt Thorton says it all for me

     

    He got cut from A World Series team and the bottom feeders jump all over him

     

     

     

    Just like Belhorn, Myers, Embree, Aceves, etc etc etc

     

     

     

    One of the most enjoyable things about being a Red Sox fan is watching yankee fans have to root for former Red Sox players.  You know, the ones yankee fans on these boards butchered but when they put on the pin stripes they are Gods.  And they wonder why we think they are all weenies.......

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    You got it backwards.

    The Sox signed Aceves after he had success with the 2008-2009 Yankees where he got a WS ring.

    Looks like a case of foot in mouth.

     
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    Re: Yankees went cheap on bullpen

    Injuries to key players for the Yankees are mounting. Apparently Beltran left last night's game in the 7th inning. Here is the quote from ESPN about the mounting injuries for the Yanks: 

    The veteran outfielder is expected to undergo an MRI after a hyperextended right elbow forced him out in the seventh inning Monday. Beltran is mired in a 5-for-43 skid, but ranks fourth on the team with 15 RBIs.
    First baseman Mark Teixeira didn't start because of a tight left groin and right fielder Ichiro Suzuki and reliever Shawn Kelley were also missing due to their aching backs.

    WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

     
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    Teixiera is in the line-up this evening. Injuries are part of the game. You play on.

     
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    Injuries to key players for the Yankees are mounting. Apparently Beltran left last night's game in the 7th inning. Here is the quote from ESPN about the mounting injuries for the Yanks: 

    The veteran outfielder is expected to undergo an MRI after a hyperextended right elbow forced him out in the seventh inning Monday. Beltran is mired in a 5-for-43 skid, but ranks fourth on the team with 15 RBIs.
    First baseman Mark Teixeira didn't start because of a tight left groin and right fielder Ichiro Suzuki and reliever Shawn Kelley were also missing due to their aching backs.

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    Don't forget Suzuki too.  After his failed catch attempt that had him FACE PLANTED on Sunday.  Old men should not be diving around!

     

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