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    Johnny Pesky

    What an absolute disgrace. Who's next, Joe Sambito. Let's not confuse longevity with greatness. He seems like a nice enough fellow, but so to was Steve Crawford. Where do we draw the line? Does that mean he's going to get in uniform again?

     
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    Johnny Pesky

    [Quote]It's a nice gesture, but when it's the year 2300, what numbers will the Sox use? #106? You figure #14, #45 and a few others will be retired within ten years. I don'tunderstand why they're doing it for just an average player.[/Quote]

    While technically true (Pesky had a 108 OPS+) that he was a slightly above average player, he's getting this honor because of what he has meant to this organization. 60 years of service, the Pesky Pole, coach, manager, The Teammates, .307 lifetime average, .394 lifetime OBP, 200+ hits in each of first three seasons, 100+ plus runs scored in each of first six seasons, his ambassadorship. The Red Sox are breaking with tradition of only retiring numbers of Hall of Famers, and Johnny Pesky's case rightfully so!!!
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    [Quote]It's a nice gesture, but when it's the year 2300, what numbers will the Sox use? #106? You figure #14, #45 and a few others will be retired within ten years. I don'tunderstand why they're doing it for just an average player.[/Quote]

    While technically true (Pesky had a 108 OPS+) that he was a slightly above average player, he's getting this honor because of what he has meant to this organization. 60 years of service, the Pesky Pole, coach, manager, The Teammates, .307 lifetime average, .394 lifetime OBP, 200+ hits in each of first three seasons, 100+ plus runs scored in each of first six seasons, his ambassadorship. The Red Sox are breaking with tradition of only retiring numbers of Hall of Famers, and Johnny Pesky's case rightfully so!!!
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    [Quote]It's a nice gesture, but when it's the year 2300, what numbers will the Sox use? #106? You figure #14, #45 and a few others will be retired within ten years. I don'tunderstand why they're doing it for just an average player.[/Quote]

    While technically true (Pesky had a 108 OPS+) that he was a slightly above average player, he's getting this honor because of what he has meant to this organization. 60 years of service, the Pesky Pole, coach, manager, The Teammates, .307 lifetime average, .394 lifetime OBP, 200+ hits in each of first three seasons, 100+ plus runs scored in each of first six seasons, his ambassadorship. The Red Sox are breaking with tradition of only retiring numbers of Hall of Famers, and Johnny Pesky's case rightfully so!!!
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    JOHN-NY PES-KY!

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    Johnny Pesky

    [Quote]It's about time!! Johnny is in a class all by himself! Congratulations Mr. Red Sox!!! Oh, and the 24 in my ID is for the REAL one - Dwight Evans!![/Quote]

    Manny's a lifetime .314 hitter w/ 526 HR's. Dewey is a lifetime 270 hitter w/ 380 HR's. Dewey has nothing on Manny with the exception of the sweet mustache. Again, let's not confuse good citizenship with greatness.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    Johnny Pesky represents the epitome of class and grace. What an honor to have his #6 grace his fans every time we visit Fenway.

    A great move, long overdue.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    [Quote]It's about time Theo. This should have been done,especially when they kicked him out of the dugout. He is the epitome of a RedSox. God Bless Johnny.[/Quote]

    Theo had absolutely nothing to do with this.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    I can't believe that people are actually AGAINST this.

    What "Can of worms" will this open? The Red Sox decided to change the arbitrary rules created by the LAST ownership on how to retire a number. Big deal. This means the Red Sox, and not the fans or anyone else, can decide who deserves the honor.

    The HoF is voted in by sports writers, all who have different ideas on who deserves to be in. It shouldn't be how teams decide who to honor on their own.

    Pesky deserves the honor. There are others who also deserve it and aren't in the Hall of Fame. This doesn't mean the Sox will start retiring number after number, it just means they aren't held to a stupid set of rules that they didn't even create.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

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    Theo had absolutely nothing to do with this.[/Quote]

    Theo is part of the front office. He more than likely had a say in the matter.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    what about JIM RICE. iF YOUR RETIRING PESKY THEN RICE SHOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO HIM.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    Look, I am as big a fan of Pesky's as anybody, but the rules were in place for a reason - to make it very difficult to qualify, thus retaining the magnitude of the accomplishments of the men behind the numbers that reside up there. With the current state of free agency, by the old rules it would be unlikely to see many more numbers retired. Maybe it would never happen (I believe they sidesteppted the Fisk dilemma by giving him a front office job so that he "ended his career with the sox"). This is what makes retiring numbers so f*cking special. Now I like Dewey and I like Tony C. And I like Dom D. and I like Johnny Pesky. And everybody likes retiring numbers. But for ownership to change the rules for the appeasment of an increasingly ignorant fanbase is not something with which I can agree.

    But congrats Mr. Pesky.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    Before he became the beloved elder statesman of the Red Sox clubhouse, he was viewed by a different generation of players as management's inside man. He was a good, not great player, and undistinguished in every other capacity as an employee, save for longevity. The bar has been lowered today. I don't trust the Red Sox PR machine to resist the temptation of hanging a new number (Tony C is next) every couple years in exchange for a few days of good press.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    Long over due. A great gesture to a great gentleman.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    Thanks for the support, jbt. What slap hitting infielder / company man next gets to have his number retired? Rem-job?

     
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    Johnny Pesky

    It's about time. I will be proud to point up to the numbers and explain to my son how Johnny Pesky was as much a part of the Red Sox tradition as the Green Monster, the Williams Seat, and the Citgo Sign. A class act, for a classy man. I hope he got a ring when the Sox finally won there series as well.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    found on the red sox web site. so many people think the Pesky Pole is in left field ( wrong-- it is right field )

    What is Pesky's Pole?







    Even though Pesky's Pole was dubbed that in the 1950s, the phrase really didn't become popular until the late 1980s or early 1990s. According to former Red Sox star Johnny Pesky, it was Sox pitcher Mel Parnell who coined the term, after Pesky hit a home run just beyond Fenway Park's right-field foul pole. That home run — one of only six homers Pesky ever hit at Fenway Park — won the game for Parnell.

     
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    Johnny Pesky

    [Quote]JOHN-NY PES-KY!

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    i second that
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    Wow... I am COMPLETELY blown away by the negative commentaries. It has become sickening that people equate greatness simply to statistics and nothing else. What about integrity, humility, dedication, sportsmanship, etc. Yes performance is part of the picture, and Pesky was good enough to deserve this.

    With all due respect to Rice, Dewie, Boggs, Tony C, and all the other names being bantered about as more derserving, no one has done more both on AND off the field for the Red Sox for three full generations than Pesky as player, manager, bench coach, batting coach, base coach, fielding coach, and broadcaster. If in 40 years any of those guys have matched even half of that contribution, then by all means, let's retire their numbers too.

    My only problem with all of this is why such short notice? Does the front office know something about Johnny's health that we don't? If so, all the more reason to honor the guy while he is around apppreciate it. Wish it weren't Friday night against the Yankees.... which all but ensures tickets will be at a premium!
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    You would have thought the Sox would have done it already... Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy, great baseball man who loves the game not for the financial reward but just for the game itself.. Johnny Pesky is what baseball should be

    Congrats!!!!!!!!
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    [Quote]


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    I third that
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    The Sox should let #6 Manage the game Friday !!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Johnny Pesky

    [Quote]

    Average player? This guy was a hit machine and could play SS and 3rd as well as anyone. The day they traded him to Detroit I cried. This is an honor that is long overdue. He is and will always be my favorite player in a Sox uniform. Do you actually believe they will be playing baseball in the year 2300?[/Quote]
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    He was an average player. This is a joke. And to whoever posted about the famed "Pesky's Pole," it's only called that because he couldn't hit it farther than that on a good day.
     
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    Johnny Pesky

    [Quote] He was not an average player and you're a nitwit.[/Quote]

    The numbers tell the story - VERY AVERAGE. Typical Red Sox media hype goes well with having a WILD CARD Celebration.
     

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