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    Why can the publics still play with the catholics?

    Needham,Hingham,Burlington,Winchester? How do these town teams still hang in against All Star teams (Catholics)?
     
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    Why can the publics still play with the catholics?

    Does anyone know how the public schools did last night in Chelmsford against the all-star catholic schools?
     
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    Why can the publics still play with the catholics?

    winchester wins 3-2
    burlington wins 6-1
     
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    I thought the catholic schools were a collection of all stars????
     
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    Why can the publics still play with the catholics?

    The middlesex league is a better league than the all-mighty Catholic Conference. Reading proved it last year, as they skated circles around everyone in the super 8, and burlington and winchester are proving it this year.
     
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    of course the middlesex league isn't better than the catholic conference. not to take away from winchester's and burlington's wins--springfield cathedral and arlington catholic are good teams--but they aren't the catholic conference. mc, cm, and xaverian are leaps and bounds better than the prep teams that the middlesex league just beat. as for reading last year, sure they played great, and as a hingham resident i was happy to see a public win for once, but that doesn't change the fact that the catholic conference wins the super 8 just about every year. some other teams will have to start consistently winning the super 8 to detract from the cc's reputation as the best league in boys' hockey.
     
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    Isn't the catholic conference made up of players who are recruited away from the towns they grew up in? If you take the cream of the crop from all of the public schools, and as a result, the catholic conference is comprised of "all star" teams, then why do the public schools even play the catholic conference teams in the playoffs? Doesn't seem like the "playing field" is level. What am I missing here?
     
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    How about the fact that you have to pay to go to Catholic school? Alot of people that could afford it in the past can no longer do so. Some of the talent that would normally play in the Catholic Conference is now staying in the public schools and making those high schools that much stronger.
     
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    Good point scrapa. Do the catholic schools offer any kind of incentives, financial aid or scholarships to athletes? Maybe the tide is shifting away from the catholics and back to the publics.
     
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    Why can the publics still play with the catholics?

    Catholic Schools do offer scholarships to the athletes. Sometimes full boats.
     
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    Just a thought as to why so many publics can skate with the catholics and are a little bit deeper these days.There has been an explosion of extra aaa youth programs.In the past little Johnny suffered with little ice time in the town program.But know Little Johnnys out there do not have to skate circles around anybody to make a AAA in squirts in order to get more ice time.The wealthy towns are spending big $$$$ on getting little johnny more ice and the not so good AAA are begging for them.

     
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    "...molded into fine christian gentlemen" is the funniest line in that funny diatribe.

    "Be careful what you wish for came to mind" when I heard the Arlington Catholic coach was elated that he was matched up with Burlington.

    He got smoked.
     
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    [Quote]I thought the catholic schools were a collection of all stars????[/Quote]

    The days of Catholic dominance are over. They are on even par with Publics now. The better players now go to prep/privates or juniors. The Catholics are like Public schools now. MC is Malden/Medford/Wakefield HS, SJP is like Peabody/Danvers HS, Austin is like Wilmington/Billerica HS (but not as good as, that place has turned into the ghetto of Cath. schools a real drug haven). So on and so forth. The Public HS hockey is making a big comeback.
     
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    The days of Catholic dominance are over. They are on even par with Publics now. The better players now go to prep/privates or juniors. The Catholics are like Public schools now. MC is Malden/Medford/Wakefield HS, SJP is like Peabody/Danvers HS, Austin is like Wilmington/Billerica HS (but not as good as, that place has turned into the ghetto of Cath. schools a real drug haven). So on and so forth. The Public HS hockey is making a big comeback.[/Quote]

    MC is not just Malden/Medford/Wakefield. Try Saugus, Lynnfield, Peabody, Danvers, Boxford and further north.
     
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    Petroleum, St Sebs played CM this year,1 goal difference. 3-4 ISL teams getting the whole lot of eastern mass kids???? no way.The good Junior teams getting most of the 91-90 kids nationally.Look at the NH Monarchs,not 1 90-91 kid from Mass.Sell that CC not getting the local tallent somewhare else.
     
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    The fine christian gentlemen got their collective asses kicked.
     
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    Agreed supersoph, the Preps and Junior hockey are taking the better HS players away from the Catholics. The Catholic school's dominance of the Publics in HS hockey is starting to diminish. 10-15 years ago many kids from the Catholic Conference would go right to D1 college, now very few go directly from HS to D1 college. They have to do a year of prep or juniors.
     
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    the comment that cm gives athletic scholarships sometimes full boats is hillarious and sooo inaccurate its pathetic

    I am a D1 athlete who went to cm and i can assure you that cm does not give money for athletics nor was i recruited. My brother is currently a 2 sport varsity athlete there and does not recieve financial aid for being an athlete despite having numerous college scholarships for next year. the only time cm give financial aid is for single parent families and those from low income families who have exceptional ACADEMIC promise. Sebs Avon Salisbury and Cushing along with the other ISL schools are allowed to give athletic scholarships and that is why they are not allowed in the super 8 tournament. that is also why you are allowed to PG at schools like that and not at a school like CM. Cm follows all the rules that public schools are required to follow. CM also does not recruit it attracts its student athletes on reputation for superior athletics and academic alone as said by bostonirish.
     
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    Why can the publics still play with the catholics?

    MC and the Prep both give full boats.
     
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    Why can the publics still play with the catholics?


    publics draw from one town. catholics draw from 20-30 towns. catholics will always be a bit better than publics. it is amazing the publics can compete with catholics, never mind win it all like Reading did last year.

    and prep/privates will always be better than publics and catholics
    here is the difference between public/catholics and the prep/privates: last year the Reading line (Lozzi, Kiley and Tozlowski) were the top scorers in the state? This year, Lozzi and Toz play prep as PG's and aren't even in the top 3 on their own team - they were both 4th on their teams behind kids who are 1-2 years younger (so much for the "it's unfair for schools to have PG's" argument). Lozzi wasn't even top 100 in all prep scoring list. He's a good player, but he went from being top 3 in states to not even top 100? They at least did better than Kiley who is 8th in scoring for his junior team.

    and the comparison between CM and St Sebs is only an indicator of how much better the preps are than public/catholics. CM (state champs for public/preps) lost to St Sebs by a goal. St Sebs was near the bottom of the league this year in the ISL (6-9-1 ISL record, but .500 overall record because they did beat a few Div II teams). CM did beat Thayer this year 2-1, but Thayer was even worse than St Sebs with an 8-18 record. So, if CM plays in the ISL or prep leagues, they are a .500 team at best.

    ask CM about their game against Salisbury School four years ago - Salisbury was the Prep champs. CM was Super 8 champs. Salisbury beat CM 9-1. Salisbury outshot CM 65-15. and Salisbury didn't play their first line after the 2nd period.

    and the catholics and the preps don't offer sports scholarships but they do give financial aid based on need - for every athlete at these schools who is not paying full tuition there are probably 3 or 4 non-athletes who are getting the same cut-rate tuition deal. These schools look at financial need so the next time you hear some dad bragging about his star son getting a full ride scholarship to CM or SJP, it ain't a "hockey scholarship" it just means that his dad is broke and can't afford the tuition

    and juniors will probably always be better than the preps because there will always be a bunch of families who let their kids barely get through school while playing hockey until they are 20 in the hope that they will get a college scholarship somewhere. there are some kids who play juniors and do well in hockey and school (lots of junior kids on Ivy league rosters) but too many don't get much of an education and end up being an OK hockey player with nowhere to go.
     
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